That's it, I'm officially spoiled by PC gaming.

[BarryMcCociner]

So I tried playing Bloodborne and...

I enjoy the game, okay? I love almost everything about it, the entire game just fucking drips with Gothic Van Helsing style horror atmosphere, the soundtrack is enjoyable, the PS4 has trouble maintaining an adults framerate at times, especially online but I'll live and it's probably my internet connection doing that anyway. It's nothing like Blight Town's hardcore fuck up.

I enjoy the new, aggressive play style and find it a change that flipped the entire game over on its head but somehow didn't sacrifice the feeling of methodical caution I'd come to associate with the Soul's games.

You know what really sticks a pineapple up my ass and twists, though? These fucking load screens. Each death has me sit though a load screen I simply don't have the patience for any more. Each time I want to go back to the Hunters Dream, each time I want to go back to a specific area, a load screen has me wait just a bit longer than I should to rear its head.

The first time I saw it, I actually believed this was one of those "Press any button to continue" things and that I hadn't realized that I was looking at a menu screen.

And the sad thing is, I know for a cold, hard fact that I would GLADLY have sat through load screens five times longer in the PS2 era.

 

[Asclepion]

And the sad thing is, I know for a cold, hard fact that I would GLADLY have sat through load screens five times longer in the PS2 era.

In it's defense, the PS2 floors the eighth gen consoles. It rivaled most PCs at the time of it's release, was the cheapest DVD player available, had full backwards compatibility with the PS1 and a massive library of it's own, and some of it's titles are considered to be among the best games ever made.

Manufacturers have since decided that they don't want to be loss leaders anymore and are content with releasing what amounts to a standalone mobile GPU with a locked OS.

Praise Gaben, Brother!

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

If 500Gb SSD's weren't so expensive they'd be a terrific upgrade for the PS4.

 

[shrekfan246]

And the sad thing is, I know for a cold, hard fact that I would GLADLY have sat through load screens five times longer in the PS2 era.

In it's defense, the PS2 floors the eighth gen consoles. It rivaled most PCs at the time of it's release,

Er, the PS2 was the Wii of its generation; it had demonstrably weaker specs than either the Xbox or the Gamecube. Technically speaking, sure, it maybe rivaled a specific type of PC, but dedicated gaming PCs? The Pentium 4 processor released in 2000 and had a minimum clock rate of 1.3 GHz, the PS2's CPU was only clocked at 295-299 MHz (Pentium 3s and higher-end Pentium 2s had a faster clock rate than the PS2 as well). The PS2 only had 32 MB of RAM, while PCs were going upwards of 512 MB+. The GPU was admittedly a bit closer matched, but still lagged behind any of its immediate competitors from Nvidia and ATI by a fair margin.

None of this diminishes how awesome the PS2 was and how much great support it got, but, you know.

OT: To be completely fair, Bloodborne just looks like it has terrible loading optimization. A lot of console games have pretty awful loading times, but I'm not sure I've ever seen anything like Bloodborne out of any other good game.

EDIT II: Though if I wanted to take a dig at Ubisoft, I could say that the loading times in Assassin's Creed Unity come to mind and my point still stands. I'm so burned out on that franchise that I didn't even think of it initially.

But then, my PC is ancient now, so it gets relatively long loading times in certain games as well (Shadow Warrior is one that takes a while).

EDIT: Edited a typo and for some clarity, I just got up a short while ago. Whoops. I should stop editing this.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well that is what bad programming looks like, dump the whole memory and start a complete bulk load every single time... worst possible waste of resources.
And sure PC users get the option to brute force that problem, but bad practices like that are the primary issue which makes even the latest and greatest hardware running in pointless circles.

 

[Lufia Erim]

I played games when the PS1 was first released. Now those were some long ass loading times. And before that loading times were none-existant.So no it's not PC games that spoiled you. Gamers are spoiled in general.

As for bloodborne, personally i don't mind it. It gives me time to wind down and think about what i didn wrong and what i can try do to do win.

Back in my day...

 

[nomotog_v1legacy]

Loading got really crazy at the end of the 360 with the loading screens. It's one aspect that I hope is improved by the console jump. (It seems to be in some games, but not others.) I was playing diablo 3 on ps4 the other day and just gushed about the instant load times.

 

[Maxtro]

It saddens me how load times only seemed to get longer as the systems got more powerful. One would think that a PS4 would be able to load games quicker than a PS3 but that's obviously not the case.

 

[fix-the-spade]

If 500Gb SSD's weren't so expensive they'd be a terrific upgrade for the PS4.

That depends on whether Sony lock the maximum read/write speeds like they did with the PS3.

 

[L. Declis]

You think those loading times are bad? Try playing some of the later Total War games. I hope you brought a book.

No seriously, it's common practise to bring a book when you play it

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Well that is what bad programming looks like, dump the whole memory and start a complete bulk load every single time... worst possible waste of resources.

Exactly. From Software is horrible with the technical aspects of making a game. With the amount of RAM the PS4 has, there's no reason you should have to reload everything. Same thing with the framerate drops is certain areas of From's games; there's no reason for for those drops considering none of the games are actually pushing high-end graphics or using the hardware to its full potential.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

You think those loading times are bad? Try playing some of the later Total War games. I hope you brought a book.

No seriously, it's common practise to bring a book when you play it

You complain about loading screens, but you only adopted loading screens. I was born with them, molded by them. By the time my mission in Wing Commander 3 loaded, I was already a man.

Seriously, load times for Wing Commander 3 missions were in excess of FIFTEEN MINUTES. I would literally finish CHAPTERS while waiting.

 

[josemlopes]

And the sad thing is, I know for a cold, hard fact that I would GLADLY have sat through load screens five times longer in the PS2 era.

In it's defense, the PS2 floors the eighth gen consoles. It rivaled most PCs at the time of it's release, was the cheapest DVD player available, had full backwards compatibility with the PS1 and a massive library of it's own, and some of it's titles are considered to be among the best games ever made.

Like it was already said, the PS2 was the shittiest console in terms of performance. It did manage to be the one with most games but it was closer to the previous gen then the Xbox Hueg and the Gamecube.

 

[loa]

Well and to top it off, you can't level up, manage your inventory or repair your weapons on those lanterns either.
There had to be a loadscreen gating that. Again.
I like to think this was a major criticism of dark souls 2 and they would revert to how dark souls 1 did it, just handle leveling, weapon and inventory things on bonfires and go to firelink shrine to buy stuff but apparently from really likes their loadscreens a lot.
They seem to be all about form over function which is also reflected in the forced pvp mostly everyone hates from a gameplay perspective since it's a messy lagfest nobody should be forced to experience "but it fits the world so well".

 

[Hagi]

Skyrim has a fun bug with loading screens caused by the snow particles.

I'm not quite sure what happens but it simply loads perpetually. Installing a mod that removes said particles completely fixes the issue.

But yeah... At first I didn't realize it was a bug and spend over half an hour waiting... Then when I use ctrl-alt-del the interrupt causes the loading to finish. So until I found said mod that was a fun guessing game of timing ctrl-alt-del at the right time so the game does get enough time to load normally but doesn't keep on going...

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

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I wouldn't call the PS2 the "Wii" of its generation. It has a VERY large 3rd party catalog of classics that actually sold. And it being a cheap DVD player also helped it sell. The PS2 was the "Wii" in terms of tech, but its catalog and its catalog's success sets it apart.

OP:I feel exactly the same way. It also doesn't help that this console gen has been riddled with bad launches so often.

 

[shrekfan246]

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I wouldn't call the PS2 the "Wii" of its generation. It has a VERY large 3rd party catalog of classics that actually sold. And it being a cheap DVD player also helped it sell. The PS2 was the "Wii" in terms of tech, but its catalog and its catalog's success sets it apart.

The Wii may have had a lackluster library, but it vastly outsold the PS3 or Xbox 360, so the comparison still largely stands.

EDIT: I don't call it the Wii of its generation to insult it. The good games that actually came to the Wii were typically very good, and I believe the only reason the PS2 had the support it did was because it was the easiest console for Japanese companies to develop for. Nintendo has a long history of being inconvenient for third-party developers, and the Xbox has never really been huge in Japan. Many of the Western-developed PS2 games are tat, or were multi-platform and thus better on another system (obviously not a blanket truth, but in general; most of the classics people recall from the PS2's library tend to be Japanese-developed)

 

[Asclepion]

The GPU was admittedly a bit closer matched, but still lagged behind any of its immediate competitors from Nvidia and ATI by a fair margin.

Nvidia themselves claim that the PS2 was faster than their machines.
http://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/feature/nvidia-interview-the-sky-isnt-falling,389941

 

[asdfen]

You think those loading times are bad? Try playing some of the later Total War games. I hope you brought a book.

No seriously, it's common practise to bring a book when you play it

I havent expirienced that at all. I dunno whats the latest TW game but I played most TW games at the time of their release up to Shogun 2 and its remake whatver that was named. Loading was very fast on my pcs.

The GPU was admittedly a bit closer matched, but still lagged behind any of its immediate competitors from Nvidia and ATI by a fair margin.

Nvidia themselves claim that the PS2 was faster than their machines.
http://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/feature/nvidia-interview-the-sky-isnt-falling,389941

nvidia guy doesnt know what he is talking about. 3d came to pc in 1996 with 3dfx interacties voodoo graphics card that owned the makret for a few years till nidia bought the company out, shut down their offices and scraped their tech even thought it was superior to nidias in every regard. In 2000 when ps2 came out 3d was everywhere in pc gaming and consoles never came close technicaly to a decent gaming pc. especially not 360 and ps3 like that guy claims.