That's not a plot hole!

[chiggerwood]

We've all heard them, usually from the insufferably smug, and we all hate them. Plot holes that are not plot holes. What are your least favorite? Here's mine,

Lord Of The Rings: There's two that annoy me to no end and make me want to slap the person that belches them out, the first being the most obvious, "Why didn't they just fly the ring to Mordor?" OK asshole you can't figure this out, fine! THE EYE OF SAURON WOULD SEE THEM! You know the giant fucking eye that sees all of Mordor and is constantly looking for the ring. He would see those eagles from miles and miles away. That is if his spies, which by the way can and do consist of men, birds, and trees, don't see them first. In which case he would send all nine of the Nazgul after them on their dragons (I know they're not called dragons, but wurms or something like that, but that's neither here nor there). All he has to do is kill the eagle with Frodo on it, or knock Frodo or the ring off the eagle and BOOM the ring is his, and all is lost, fuck you game over.

#2. In the mines of Moria: This one is less of a plot hole and is usually more of a dig at Gandalf. It usually goes something like "Gandalf sucks as a wizard, he was traveling through a mine he knew had orcs in it and he stopped to read? What a dumbass, hur, hur, hur." To which I respond, you did hear him when he said that it was going to take FOUR DAYS to get through the mines, didn't you? Because he says it's going to take four fucking days to get through the Mines of Moria... Four days, at least. When he picked up the book they were nearing the exit. It was maybe quarter to half a days journey to the exit, so that means that they had been traversing through a grey, samey, god forsaken mine for several days up to that point. Let's see you do that. Let's see you go through an underground Kansas for four days, and see if you don't want to take a break here and there due to mental exhaustion, fuck physical exhaustion which I'm sure they had, let's just go with the mental exhaustion. Hell by day two I can guarantee you that you'd be losing your damn mind and gnawing at the rocks in a desperate attempt to escape, so I think that he can be excused for taking a breather to read a book that may have some pertinent information. To be honest it could be fucking twilight and I wouldn't blame the guy for stopping.


Memento: This one I find somewhat excusable seeing as most people don't know shit about neurology, but it still not a plot hole. "If Leonard has Anterograde Amnesia how does he remember that he has Anterograde Amnesia?" People with Anterograde Amnesia know that they have amnesia. I don't how it works, but they know. To be fair this one is excusable so I won't give anyone shit for this, but the other two? Yeah fuck those people.

Sorry if I ninja'd the ones you wanted to rant about, but feel free to add what you wish if you feel like I missed something, But now I want to hear your least favorite plot holes that aren't plot holes.

EDIT: The reason people with Anterograde Amnesia know that they have Amnesia is due to reasoning or repetition making the knowledge instinctual. Thank you to everyone who gave me information on the Anterograde Amnesia bit.

 

[Pinkamena]

I'm terrible at noticing plot holes, and even worse at remembering them. I do remember one though, in Indiana Jones: The Last Crusade. When he has to step on the tiles to spell out Gods name, he steps on a wrong tile and falls through the collapsing floor. But he grabs onto another tile and saves himself. Only problem is that that tile isn't part of Gods name and should have collapsed as well.

 

[Queen Michael]

People with Anterograde Amnesia know that they have amnesia. I don't how it works, but they know.

The fact that there's all this stuff they can't remember might be a hint...

 

[shrekfan246]

I'm terrible at noticing plot holes, and even worse at remembering them.

Yeah, that's me.

I'll tear things apart in critical analysis, but I think my willing suspension of disbelief has become so elevated over the years that plot holes just fly over my head most of the time. Not to mention there hasn't really been an ironclad plot that I've seen in media in a long time, so I tend to just ignore plot holes because it'll increase my overall enjoyment of whatever I'm watching/playing/reading.

Never understood why they couldn't just blame everything on the Joker at the end of The Dark Knight though, so if someone can explain that I guess it'll be my contribution...

Also Pink, my face when I saw your new custom title -

 

[Scarim Coral]

I also agreed with the whole using the Eargle to fly them to Mordor. Even if they did drop the ring like a bomb from the eagle, I don't think they weren't smart enough to calculate the speed of the eagle, the weight and the fallen speed of the ring. In another word, I don't think they would of been successful of bombing the ring right into the lava pit!

 

[The Wykydtron]

I am REALLY bad at noticing all but the really obvious plot holes, I think i'm just naturally hardwired to overlook them because there's no fun to be had if you're constantly picking holes in everything.

For example, people say Code Geass was ridden with plot holes later on but I can see literally none of them.

 

[DasDestroyer]

The only plot holes I ever see are usually unimportant ones that can be attributed to artistic license, such as the sound of TIE-fighters in space.

 

[Cabisco]

I hate people who point out tiny plot holes, like those horrific 'everything wrong with' youtube videos. It's like they don't actually enjoy movies and just have a nilhistic desire to piss everyone off by pointing out flaws in things they like...

Anyhoo, you actually mentioned the one that annoys me most, the whole eagle thing. Can't quite think of another one off the top of my head.

 

[Rylingo]

Chronicle ending

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"How come Andrew is stabbed by a spear at the end when he can shield himself from incoming damage via telekinesis? It's a plothole."
No it's not. The characters create shockwaves by expanding their shields. Andrew sent everyone flying backwards by doing this. This left him temporarily without a shield which is how Matt stabbed him with a spear.

 

[davidmc1158_v1legacy]

The only (as I see it) non-plot hole that continuously irritates me is when people argue about the wall at the native village in King Kong. "Why would they build a door in a giant wall to keep Kong out and then go put a giant door in it? And couldn't he just climb over it?"

First off, I thought it was extremely obvious that the villagers worshiped Kong as a god. That whole, find him a pretty girl to offer him as a bride/sacrifice thing kind of tipped me off on that. The door is how they went through the wall to give those sacrifices/gifts to him and symbolically is welcoming him into their village and lives. The wall wasn't meant to keep Kong out so much as it was a sort of giant privacy fence for their deity. Well, that and it kept out all of those damn dinosaurs that were wandering Kong's side of the island.

Maybe I put too much thought into that one as a kid, but that was my 2 cents.

 

[Pinkamena]

Also Pink, my face when I saw your new custom title -

Do you like it? Blame Topaz, it was his suggestion Also, congrats on your 10k posts!

 

[Accel]

Chronicle ending

Spoiler

"How come Andrew is stabbed by a spear at the end when he can shield himself from incoming damage via telekinesis? It's a plothole."
No it's not. The characters create shockwaves by expanding their shields. Andrew sent everyone flying backwards by doing this. This left him temporarily without a shield which is how Matt stabbed him with a spear.

I always interpreted it that:

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they could create shields instinctively when they SAW something about to hurt them. Every time they shield themselves from something in the film (a fork stabbing or the bus being slammed into them), it was because they saw the other object coming.

Andrew was stabbed form behind with the spear, so he couldn't reactively put a shield up.

 

[T3hSource]

I only notice plot holes after I'm done consuming the media in question, that means I've been thinking about it and found some things which I can't help but question.

 

[EHKOS]

You know I did some math at the end of The Dark Knight Rises, and

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There is NO WAY Batman would be able to fly the bomb out of there fast enough with the timer being on what it was. Bane said the bomb had a six mile blast radius, and even though I forgot how to do the math, the Bat would have had to fly around 2,000 MPH to clear that. Not to mention some of the fallout would blow back.

 

[BNguyen]

Chronicle ending

Spoiler

"How come Andrew is stabbed by a spear at the end when he can shield himself from incoming damage via telekinesis? It's a plothole."
No it's not. The characters create shockwaves by expanding their shields. Andrew sent everyone flying backwards by doing this. This left him temporarily without a shield which is how Matt stabbed him with a spear.

I always interpreted it that:

Spoiler

they could create shields instinctively when they SAW something about to hurt them. Every time they shield themselves from something in the film (a fork stabbing or the bus being slammed into them), it was because they saw the other object coming.

Andrew was stabbed form behind with the spear, so he couldn't reactively put a shield up.

plus he was kind of pissed at everything and going all DBZ on the world so he wouldn't even hear the metal being bent to allow the spear to be pulled from the statue

 

[GundamSentinel]

I thought this would be about people saying something is a plot hole while in fact it's not at all relevant to the plot, but just some small thing that doesn't make complete sense. Like OP's Memento example.

Me, if I'm really enjoying a movie I usually just don't notice plot holes. Even if I do, they must be huge for me to actually mind them being there.

 

[wulf3n]

OK asshole you can't figure this out, fine! THE EYE OF SAURON WOULD SEE THEM! You know the giant fucking eye that sees all of Mordor and is constantly looking for the ring...

Oh, you mean the exact same problem they faced in Return of the King, which they solved by sending an army on a suicide mission as a distraction?

 

[Dimitriov]

OK asshole you can't figure this out, fine! THE EYE OF SAURON WOULD SEE THEM! You know the giant fucking eye that sees all of Mordor and is constantly looking for the ring...

Oh, you mean the exact same problem they faced in Return of the King, which they solved by sending an army on a suicide mission as a distraction?

Yeah... something flying through the air is kind of a lot more noticeable than two little hobbits sneaking around in the dust.

Also, I don't know if you noticed but it took an awful lot of time, work, and convincing to send that army.

 

[wolf thing]

You know I did some math at the end of The Dark Knight Rises, and

Spoiler

There is NO WAY Batman would be able to fly the bomb out of there fast enough with the timer being on what it was. Bane said the bomb had a six mile blast radius, and even though I forgot how to do the math, the Bat would have had to fly around 2,000 MPH to clear that. Not to mention some of the fallout would blow back.

a fusion bomb would not create fallout because a fusion reaction does not use radioactive materials to operate, it use high energy to build large atoms, much like the sun, they would be some radiation but not like a fission bomb. but you're right as far as the plot hole goes.