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Dreiko said:
It's honestly a travesty to even imply that Jump Force is a fighting game, as well XD.
i haven't played Jump Force but if Super Smash Bros Ultimate doesn't win the Overall 2019 GOTY Award at the show i hope it at least wins the Best Fighting Game Award at this years show.


for so long, people around the world have mocked Smash saying "It's not even a real/proper fighting game it's just a party game!". i found it hilarious when it headlined as the main event game being played EVO 2019, then just in the last several weeks it's become the best selling fighting game of all time even beating Street Fighter 2's sales.
Seeing Smash win both best fighting game at the Game Awards and if it also wins GOTY 2019 on top of all that as well, that would just be salt in the wound to all of the haters of the series who have mocked the franchise in the past lol.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
Dreiko said:
It's honestly a travesty to even imply that Jump Force is a fighting game, as well XD.
i haven't played Jump Force but if Super Smash Bros Ultimate doesn't win the Overall 2019 GOTY Award at the show i hope it at least wins the Best Fighting Game Award at this years show.


for so long, people around the world have mocked Smash saying "It's not even a real/proper fighting game it's just a party game!". i found it hilarious when it headlined as the main event game being played EVO 2019, then just in the last several weeks it's become the best selling fighting game of all time even beating Street Fighter 2's sales.
Seeing Smash win both best fighting game at the Game Awards and if it also wins GOTY 2019 on top of all that as well, that would just be salt in the wound to all of the haters of the series who have mocked the franchise in the past lol.
You carry around a lot of petty baggage, don't you?
 

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bluegate said:
You carry around a lot of petty baggage, don't you?
if being happy for the success of a franchise i've loved since i first started playing videogames as a kid and shutting up haters of that franchise i'm passionate about is petty then sue me.
 

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Oh and Kojima is my best friend so his game is gonna get put into as many catagorys as possible.
If Norman Reedus is going to be nominated for best performance I'm gonna be real upset. *checks nominations* Oh my God he fucking is! The dude barely says a damn thing, and when he does it comes out like he's half asleep.
*Norman Reedus nominated for best actor.*

Norman Reedus: Still got it.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
Dreiko said:
It's honestly a travesty to even imply that Jump Force is a fighting game, as well XD.
i haven't played Jump Force but if Super Smash Bros Ultimate doesn't win the Overall 2019 GOTY Award at the show i hope it at least wins the Best Fighting Game Award at this years show.


for so long, people around the world have mocked Smash saying "It's not even a real/proper fighting game it's just a party game!". i found it hilarious when it headlined as the main event game being played EVO 2019, then just in the last several weeks it's become the best selling fighting game of all time even beating Street Fighter 2's sales.
Seeing Smash win both best fighting game at the Game Awards and if it also wins GOTY 2019 on top of all that as well, that would just be salt in the wound to all of the haters of the series who have mocked the franchise in the past lol.
Smash isn't a party game but it also isn't really a fighting game in the same way that jump force isn't one. Jump is an arena battle game and smash is a platform fighter.

Arena games focus on 3d movement and have simplistic button mashy easymode inputs and sacrifice depth for higher faithfulness to the canon of the origins of whatever series the game is based on. They don't have balance concerns and are not made for competition so they are freed from the constraints of trying to be a good fighter and thanks to that are able to be extremely faithful to the source material, I call them in a sense anime simulators, they focus on simulating whatever anime the game is based on first and foremost.

Platform fighters on the other hand focus on 2D sidescroller mechanics like falling through platforms and holding onto edges strategically to the point where character matchups can vary solely based on what stage you play on and the placement of the platforms in it. They have their own set of fundamentals, some like Jump Ultimate Stars (the superior jump game) can also be really good fighting games in a traditional sense that fits within that category, full of cancel combos and consistent timing and requiring you to actually defeat your foe and not just strategically ring them out, whereas Smash is basically its own animal.

While Smash is at evo, the people who play smash, tend to just play smash, whereas people who play Guilty Gear also play Street Fighter and Samurai Spirits and so on. This is because those games all are the same genre, whereas smash is it's own unique thing. And similarly, you have all those people who complain that chars like Ryu and Terry have regular obvious fighting game inputs for their movesets, because smash doesn't teach you the fundamental of imputing complex inputs in a split second on reaction, giving birth to legendary memes such as this:

https://twitter.com/ShoujoNara/status/1193583249433464832
 

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The fighting game community props up Low Tier God. They have nothing to say on anything IMO till they drop that psychopath.

Then again, the gaming community as a whole also props up Darksydephil, so maybe we don't have anything to say either.

I'm depressed again.
 

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Smithnikov said:
The fighting game community props up Low Tier God. They have nothing to say on anything IMO till they drop that psychopath.

Then again, the gaming community as a whole also props up Darksydephil, so maybe we don't have anything to say either.

I'm depressed again.
Those are just the capcom subsect, not the entire community. Nobody who plays stuff like blazblue or guilty gear cares one iota about those angry weirdos lol.
 

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Just had a look of each of the GOTY nominees Metacritic scores to help predict who the Winner might be this year

Control: 82/100
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice: 90/100
Resident Evil 2 Remake: 91/100
Death Stranding: 83/100
The Outer Worlds: 86/100
Super Smash Bros Ultimate: 93/100



Save us Daddy Sakurai!!! :3
 

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The only thing worse than a bunch of billionaires and millionaires giving each other awards for movies and TV shows, is a bunch of dweebs doing the same for video games. God damn, there's nothing more cringeworthy than video game award shows. If I was a developer or a voice talent, I'd never attend one of those shows. It's degrading as fuck.
 

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God I hope smash doesn't get the award. There is no real innovation its just fan service the game. It doesn't mean much but calling Smash the best game of the year is analogous to calling Avengers:Endgame the best movie of the year. Sure, Smash is a solid game but its such a safe, by the numbers product I don't really care to play it cause I already played that game several times since melee.

Smithnikov said:
The fighting game community props up Low Tier God. They have nothing to say on anything IMO till they drop that psychopath.

Then again, the gaming community as a whole also props up Darksydephil, so maybe we don't have anything to say either.

I'm depressed again.
I dunno, exploiting mentally ill people for entertainment is hardly a unique thing on the internet. People who give money to DSP or LTG have their own issues and are arguably worse than them imo, but I hardly see LTG/DSP discussed by the FGC or gaming community. I wouldn't write off whole communities because the behavior of some very warped people, but I do agree its depressing that there are people who gleefully enable their toxic behavior.
 

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Dansen said:
God I hope smash doesn't get the award. There is no real innovation its just fan service the game.
i guess that's why it was the most watched game at EVO 2019 huh?
 

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Yoshi178 said:
for so long, people around the world have mocked Smash saying "It's not even a real/proper fighting game it's just a party game!". i found it hilarious when it headlined as the main event game being played EVO 2019, then just in the last several weeks it's become the best selling fighting game of all time even beating Street Fighter 2's sales.
Seeing Smash win both best fighting game at the Game Awards and if it also wins GOTY 2019 on top of all that as well, that would just be salt in the wound to all of the haters of the series who have mocked the franchise in the past lol.

if being happy for the success of a franchise i've loved since i first started playing videogames as a kid and shutting up haters of that franchise i'm passionate about is petty then sue me.

Metacritic scores
You need to play more games... A 20-year old game shouldn't win GOTY. Smash has even less changes than yearly sports games or singular ongoing games. That doesn't mean anyone shouldn't enjoy Smash any less just like people shouldn't enjoy FIFA or COD any less. Though, I couldn't care less what wins or doesn't win the VGAs, it's a joke of an awards show in an industry with a joke of a professional criticism circle (Metacritic also being pointless). The VGAs are like the Teen Choice Awards of video game awards. The VGAs can't even arrange games by genre properly; Monster Hunter isn't an RPG for example. Everyone knows the VGAs are just for marketing and not much else and Smash winning Fighting game or GOTY isn't going to make anyone that doesn't like Smash salty, it's a popularity contest and Smash should probably win that, it's probably sold more copies than all the other games it's up against. Do all the CounterStrike players feel salty that COD/Fortnite outsells / has more players than it? Hell no, they play CS because it's a much better game in their opinion and no award or sales numbers will change that.

Gamefaqs is the place for your type of posting. The only thing you should really care about a game doing that you love is that enough other people bought it to merit more of it being made in the future. Outside of that, sales/scores/awards/whatever is pointless.

 

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Oh that's right. Board games are the only games worthy of being GOTY. how could i forget?
Silly me.
 

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Yoshi178 said:
Oh that's right. Board games are the only games worthy of being GOTY. how could i forget?
Silly me.
And that only proves you need to play more games. Without board games, there wouldn't be Slay the Spire.

Also...
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Disco Elysium is by far the best game I've played all year
 

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Yoshi178 said:
Dansen said:
God I hope smash doesn't get the award. There is no real innovation its just fan service the game.
i guess that's why it was the most watched game at EVO 2019 huh?
...and how does that disprove what I said? Cross over games are going to pull bigger numbers by virtue of appealing to many fan bases, especially a game that pulls from so many beloved properties. Numbers aren't inherently an indicator of quality. Notice how all the marketing is focused on characters and nostalgia? Its because that is all smash has that is new. Not saying its a bad game, (it wouldn't sell if it wasn't good), but it doesn't need the recognition.

If SSBU is getting outsold by FIFA Madden and NBA, does that mean those games are better?
 

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Dansen said:
Yoshi178 said:
Dansen said:
God I hope smash doesn't get the award. There is no real innovation its just fan service the game.
i guess that's why it was the most watched game at EVO 2019 huh?
...and how does that disprove what I said? Cross over games are going to pull bigger numbers by virtue of appealing to many fan bases, especially a game that pulls from so many beloved properties. Numbers aren't inherently an indicator of quality. Notice how all the marketing is focused on characters and nostalgia? Its because that is all smash has that is new. Not saying its a bad game, (it wouldn't sell if it wasn't good), but it doesn't need the recognition.

If SSBU is getting outsold by FIFA Madden and NBA, does that mean those games are better?
If there was no innovation in the Super Smash Bros franchise, then people would have stopped watching years ago.

Thinking Smash Ultimate hasnt changed at all since melee clearly hasn't played much of either game. And no, i'm not just talking about the roster size
 

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Yoshi178 said:
If there was no innovation in the Super Smash Bros franchise, then people would have stopped watching years ago.

Thinking Smash Ultimate hasnt changed at all since melee clearly hasn't played much of either game. And no, i'm not just talking about the roster size
People like watching what they know, that's why The Office is the #1 streamed show on Netflix.

Monster Hunter World has changed more in 2 years than Smash has in 20 (I've played every Smash).