The "50/50 men/women gamers" statistic

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Rebel_Raven said:
It's possible, or there'd be the hypocrisy of "So what if women dominate it? We still demand that we have more say in the industry!" from the FPS' present main demographic, or some nonsense like that.
This is more probable, given how many people scream for the death of FPS like Call of Duty.

It's weird how being the minority isn't a hindrance to most there.

Though, in fairness, I did see one person state they were just done with the genre. Which is fair enough, I guess.

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So wait, you think that most people don't want to lump in mobile gaming with more conventional video games because women dominate it?
Please don't twist my words.

Last time I checked, I don't think anyone said anything about how the RPG genre tends to be fairly equal in terms of the gender divide.
Well, unless you count the current survey being talked/complained about, in which case, women are more prevalent. And yet, people still went to the "fuckin' casuals" route.

Should such an incredibly unlikely hypothetical scenario somehow happen with the FPS genre, I doubt you'd see people try to discount it JUST because women happen to play it.
You're right. Rebel Raven's scenario is a far more likely one that's already happened.
 

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Given the gaming industry is bigger than film, it's crazy talk to say that big media companies like MS, Sony, Nintendo, EA aren't targeting the correct demographics.
 

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I really like studies like this, mainly because when you pull these statistics, they hardly ever account for the situation of a woman entering as male during profile/in game name sign ups.

And yes, this happens - you'd be surprised how much having an effeminate name or character marks you out for all sorts of different treatment. (Fat, Ugly or Slutty anyone?)

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werewolfgold said:
The problem is even if there aren't as many women as men (or other "minority/majority" comparisons) playing AAA hardcore games (yeah, there's probably not).
They generally don't play AAA and I've always wondered if this was indicative of woman generally not enjoying competitive atmospheres. You also don't see many women who enjoy sports, poker, or chess at a comparable ratio to men that do
Quick question, could that answer be anymore based on opinion?

First off: What's considered AAA?
Is it multi million dollar competitive pure 3-d, non-indy development? Most of the games I've brought as of late have been indie devs or small companies - most recently? Heavy Bullets.


What's considered hardcore? Isn't that purely up to how seriously you take the game?
I play extensive amounts of ranked solo in MOBAs - specifically LoL, DoTA, Smite and Dawngate (the last 2 to a lesser extent to the others). Some people consider that to be 'hardcore'


I also play 'hardcore' (single death no respawn league) PoE, I don't really have a softcore character (aside from a lvl 42 I haven't touched since I started the game) I play 'hardcore, casually'. I don't play like I'm calculating and squeezing out every drop of damage I can get, I play hardcore because I like the danger and the fun of it - it isn't hard-faced seriousness, its fun with some risk. (For the sake of any further questions, I'm a minion/spell hybrid build witch around lvl 60 in default hardcore league, also considering building a room clearing ranger for Vaal pocket runs)


Are we talking console games only?
I've been gaming since I was 8 (female) and I haven't brought a console game in quite some time (at least 6-8 months), last ones I remember getting were Halo 4 and Skyrim (regretted that one).


How about non-FTP?
Some people don't consider PoE 'hardcore', and only view Diablo 3 as such - same with League and DoTA.

I don't think there's a term more subjective then 'hardcore'.

You talk about competitive atmospheres, does that mean that only pvp games can be triple A or are we counting only 'Hardcore' AAA pvp games? That sounds pretty niche if you ask me.
 

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TrevHead said:
Given the gaming industry is bigger than film, it's crazy talk to say that big media companies like MS, Sony, Nintendo, EA aren't targeting the correct demographics.
Given how much of that demographic is the mobile/casual gaming that's being attributed to women and given how much that's projected to grow, I'd say it's clearly not crazy and if you want to argue money, they should all target these "girly" games. None of this PC bullshit where we actively prop up men and their stagnating core games.
 

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werewolfgold said:
The problem isn't really the numbers. The problem is what people do with the numbers.

"Oh. Women don't play these video games? We're free to have all the ladies in the game in bikinis with their boobs falling out of said bikinis! WOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!"
But of course they are allowed to do that regardless of what the "numbers" say. Why wouldn't they be?

If they want certain audience, like females in this case(well some females might like that too), then maybe they shouldn't do that. But if they want to do that they are and should be allowed to.
 

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But of course they are allowed to do that regardless of what the "numbers" say. Why wouldn't they be?

If they want certain audience, like females in this case(well some females might like that too), then maybe they shouldn't do that. But if they want to do that they are and should be allowed to.
Yes, they are allowed. I and many others will continue to think it's wholly dumb, and after a while even intellectually insulting. And that fact will be made known, also known BEAT THEM OVER THE HEAD WITH THAT FACT UNTIL THEY SUBMIT!!!

lol j/k
 

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Well a study done several years ago had 20% of COD players as women but they aren't conducting a new poll to check known fem players in 2014 however all women players who tagged their account as male will show up under the male numbers. Obviously this number is alot higher since they keep placing women in MP.

Then we have back in 2011 women console gamers were 40% vs just over 50% for PC gamers

And The top games played by both sexes on xbox live in 2013 were
this image of course only shows known women players accounts not women who tagged theirs male so their numbers contribute to the male games played.
 

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God, can I please change sex? Over 80% of us prefer violent games? You've got to be kidding me.

Mind you, it's a stupid question. Some good games happen to be violent. But to sit there when someone is asking me "do you prefer violent or non-violent games?" and say "violent" is pretty...well, stupid.
 

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Angelblaze said:
I really like studies like this, mainly because when you pull these statistics, they hardly ever account for the situation of a woman entering as male during profile/in game name sign ups.

And yes, this happens - you'd be surprised how much having an effeminate name or character marks you out for all sorts of different treatment. (Fat, Ugly or Slutty anyone?)
There is also the fact that a lot of them have male selected by default. If you're like me and don't bother putting in actual details and instead just hits some random keys in the required boxes you probably have a few accounts tagged male. In fact I was bored and played Neverwinter again the other day and noticed my profile was male. There are also a fair amount that don't even ask.