It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Of course, if you've never read the books, you wouldn't understand.TrulyBritish said:Well we're all entitled to our opinions, even if you're wrong![]()
It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Of course, if you've never read the books, you wouldn't understand.TrulyBritish said:Well we're all entitled to our opinions, even if you're wrong![]()
I have read the books, several times.madwarper said:It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Of course, if you've never read the books, you wouldn't understand.TrulyBritish said:Well we're all entitled to our opinions, even if you're wrong![]()
Now, THAT is an opinion. And, you are entitled to it, even though it's wrong.TrulyBritish said:but I never expected them too nor do I believe they need to.
Does your argument stretch beyond "they had to cut some stuff out"?madwarper said:Now, THAT is an opinion. And, you are entitled to it, even though it's wrong.TrulyBritish said:but I never expected them too nor do I believe they need to.
From the failing to reforge Narsil into Anduril, to the lack of gifts at Lothlorien, to the COMPLETE butchering of Faramir, to the absence of the Sacking of the Shire...
I could go on, but it's sufficient to say that the LotR movies were utter shite. I never bothered with the Hobbit movies.
Um, what?madwarper said:Now, THAT is an opinion. And, you are entitled to it, even though it's wrong.
From the failing to reforge Narsil into Anduril, to the lack of gifts at Lothlorien, to the COMPLETE butchering of Faramir, to the absence of the Sacking of the Shire...
Uh, hi, another person here who read the books and thinks movies are fucking awesome.madwarper said:It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Of course, if you've never read the books, you wouldn't understand.TrulyBritish said:Well we're all entitled to our opinions, even if you're wrong![]()
Really don't feel like an argument, but I'll add my name to that list.MrCalavera said:Uh, hi, another person here who read the books and thinks movies are fucking awesome.madwarper said:It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Of course, if you've never read the books, you wouldn't understand.TrulyBritish said:Well we're all entitled to our opinions, even if you're wrong![]()
Need to cut something? Cut the bullshit padding they pulled out of their ass.Johnny Novgorod said:Does your argument stretch beyond "they had to cut some stuff out"?
BEFORE the company departed from Rivendell? Nope. That didn't happen.Hawki said:Narsil is reforged into Anduril in the movies, and they do receive gifts (in the extended edition).
You didn't specify when, you claimed that it wasn't present at all.madwarper said:BEFORE the company departed from Rivendell? Nope. That didn't happen.
You claimed that there were no gifts, period. You didn't specify the types of gifts.Aragorn received a sheath for Anduril in Lothlorien? Nope. That didn't happen.
Sam getting a box of soil from Galadriel's orchard? Nope. That didn't happen.
This is called shifting the goal posts.madwarper said:From the failing to reforge Narsil into Anduril, to the lack of gifts at Lothlorien,
I agree Aragorn's 'detour' in Two Towers is completely uncalled for and it's a cheap way of briefly raising the stakes.madwarper said:Need to cut something? Cut the bullshit padding they pulled out of their ass.Johnny Novgorod said:Does your argument stretch beyond "they had to cut some stuff out"?
No Arwen. No Aragorn coma. No Faramir parading Frodo in front of the Witch King.
Except it isn't an adaptation. It's a prequel series.Saelune said:The one thing that makes this not so bad...is all the other adaptations. It doesn't feel so bad when you know you can just fall back on whatever preferred version you like.
Well, I won't tell you to "fuck off," but I think it's kinda easy to explain why. The story can easily exist without the Bombadil section. There's no plot, characterization, or theme that's imparted that's integral to the story. So given that the film runs at 3 hours even without Bombadil, I can get why he's not there.the December King said:True facts: I actually like having Tom Bombadil in the stories. A whimsical being who is so powerful that he dates a river's daughter (would that be a stream?) and can completely ignore the powers of the Ring!
But I've been told to fuck off by every other LOTR fan I have ever talked to when asking why that section of the books was not in the films.
Then it is just fanfic, so even more a reason to not care if it is bad.Hawki said:Except it isn't an adaptation. It's a prequel series.Saelune said:The one thing that makes this not so bad...is all the other adaptations. It doesn't feel so bad when you know you can just fall back on whatever preferred version you like.
If you didn't like the LotR adaptations, you reeeeeeeeeeally don't want to watch the Hobbit ones.madwarper said:I could go on, but it's sufficient to say that the LotR movies were utter shite. I never bothered with the Hobbit movies.
IIRC, the reason Bombadil was dropped wasn't just because it was boring and pointless and weird, it was because Gandalf made a big fuss about how the ring would corrupt absolutely everyone, and then the next random they met is immune to the ring corrupting them.Hawki said:Well, I won't tell you to "fuck off," but I think it's kinda easy to explain why. The story can easily exist without the Bombadil section. There's no plot, characterization, or theme that's imparted that's integral to the story. So given that the film runs at 3 hours even without Bombadil, I can get why he's not there.
Same reason Faramir is changed to fall under the Ring's sway, because otherwise we're short on examples of it corrupting people before Frodo pulls out his "Nah its mine now!"Thaluikhain said:IIRC, the reason Bombadil was dropped wasn't just because it was boring and pointless and weird, it was because Gandalf made a big fuss about how the ring would corrupt absolutely everyone, and then the next random they met is immune to the ring corrupting them.Hawki said:Well, I won't tell you to "fuck off," but I think it's kinda easy to explain why. The story can easily exist without the Bombadil section. There's no plot, characterization, or theme that's imparted that's integral to the story. So given that the film runs at 3 hours even without Bombadil, I can get why he's not there.