The Atrocities of Your National Heritage... This is a Fun Thread! :D
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Oh really? Britian made the internet, Television, and radar. We have also created that guy who plays House, whoes name I forget.Lonan said:
Take that, America!
Yay. More vikings.Naeras said:
I'm Danish though.
How about we just let the people of the British Isles say what atrocities our ancestors did (rape and pillage, although I have heard a story that it wasn't really rape. Apparently Vikings knew about sanitation and stuff so the vikings were the lesser evil)?
Britain has never really done anything terrible. Honestly we spread social consciousness to the world. Think of all the people in Asia alive today due to British medical advances.
Actually that is quite the atrocity. Sorry for being too nice and causing over population on the planet, and therefore the necessity to create new STDs for population control, as well as causing homosexuality to be seen as acceptable due to the fact you cant have kids out your bum.
Actually that is quite the atrocity. Sorry for being too nice and causing over population on the planet, and therefore the necessity to create new STDs for population control, as well as causing homosexuality to be seen as acceptable due to the fact you cant have kids out your bum.
What did Scotland ever do wrong? Yeah, we took part in England's shenanigans but I can't think of anything we did on our own. Anyone care to enlighten me?
I take issue with that.The Tibballs said:
I think the difference falls in who you target. If you target civilians, you are a terrorist, if you only target military/government assets, you could be considered a freedom fighter.
Lets see..Trotsky,Stalin,Lenin,Krushchov,Gorbachov,Brezhnev(Though according to my releatives,life under him was pretty good)The Banderiv ''freedom fighters'',The Holodomer oh...I could go all day.
Though the Ushanka,Karpatstky tea and Awesome food make up for it.
I also have some Chuchki and German heritage,but typing up a coherent and long post on a Galaxy Note ist impossiburu.
Though the Ushanka,Karpatstky tea and Awesome food make up for it.
I also have some Chuchki and German heritage,but typing up a coherent and long post on a Galaxy Note ist impossiburu.
Sweden: Did the whole Viking raiding thing, sorry about that. We weren't really part of the Crusades as much as other people, but that falls on all of Europe. Then there was the time we conquered the Baltic, maybe twice? Sorry about that -_-.
But I'll never say sorry to Denmark! We may not have had a war in the past 150+ years but your day of reckoning will come!
But I'll never say sorry to Denmark! We may not have had a war in the past 150+ years but your day of reckoning will come!
To be honest the Dutch did kick the crap out of the Belgian rebels. The Belgians only succeeded because they ran to the French to get help. And to be honest, sometimes I Belgium never had seperated from the Kingdom of the Netherlands. But then again, I don't think I would like to be a Dutchman.talker said:
As for atrocities. There was Belgian Congo. Nothing good came from that.
Well New Zealand was founded by people escaping from the dipshits.
There has been historic mistreatment of natives but that was mostly due to a big clusterfuck of misunderstandings, mistranslations and cultural differences. The land wars were pretty brutal but they had Maori fighting alongside the British when it suited them.
There has been historic mistreatment of natives but that was mostly due to a big clusterfuck of misunderstandings, mistranslations and cultural differences. The land wars were pretty brutal but they had Maori fighting alongside the British when it suited them.
Suggesting that the stolen generation was morally unconscionable is in no way unrealistic. By any measure it was an atrocity, and to simply pass it off as some kind of... inevitability that 'could have been handled better' is pretty short-sighted and revisionist.The Tibballs said:
I'm not sure what my exact heritage is (for personal reasons) other than Irish-Scottish... so I'm just gonna go with the typical American "White Man" sins.
We call Osama bin Laden a terrorist, but al-Qaeda supporters call him a freedom fighter. In the end it all comes down to which side of the fence you sit on.Darkmantle said:
As for "military/government assets" where dose the military/government get their power from? that's right, the people, so if you kill and/or scare the people enough, you can bring down a military/government, it's a dirty way to fight but sometimes it's the only way you can.
So, you're in Nazi occupied France and Hitler is in a café full of civilians (women and children etc.) you have a bomb strapped to your chest. Now do you pull the trigger or not?? Are you a terrorist or a freedom fighter??
In the end, it all comes down to perspective, which was my original point.
I'm bi-racial.
The atrocities of the English and their Empire are well known. I don't have to go into them. Needless to say that the British Empire and its colonies are responsible for the deaths of millions, the virtual enslavement of millions more and the theft of land on a TITANIC scale.
The atrocities of the Chinese and THEIR empires are less well known. Let me tell you something:
China is now 90~95% Han Chinese. It wasn't always that way. It's 90~95% Han Chinese because the Han systematically conquered and committed genocide against a lot of ethnic minorities in China, who have been reduced to powerless entities living under the perpetual thumb of the Han. China has a long, storied, bloody history of conquest and invasion - the amount of times they conquered the Vietnamese and the Koreans fills out a long list. Granted, China hasn't attempt to conquer any regions recently (except Tibet), but that's not due to them being nice - it's due to them not having the naval capacity to conquer further regions. The only reason why China's Western Expansion stopped was due to the fact that they thought everything to the West was worthless desert. It wasn't due to the kindness of their hearts.
The Chinese attitude towards other races, as typified by some of my relatives, is one of shocking racism. Especially against Tibetans (who they deem to be almost sub-human and retarded) and the Uighers who they deem to all be terrorists and barbarians.
Still, I love China and its people. They make mistakes like anyone else, though. And it's good to remember that.
The atrocities of the English and their Empire are well known. I don't have to go into them. Needless to say that the British Empire and its colonies are responsible for the deaths of millions, the virtual enslavement of millions more and the theft of land on a TITANIC scale.
The atrocities of the Chinese and THEIR empires are less well known. Let me tell you something:
China is now 90~95% Han Chinese. It wasn't always that way. It's 90~95% Han Chinese because the Han systematically conquered and committed genocide against a lot of ethnic minorities in China, who have been reduced to powerless entities living under the perpetual thumb of the Han. China has a long, storied, bloody history of conquest and invasion - the amount of times they conquered the Vietnamese and the Koreans fills out a long list. Granted, China hasn't attempt to conquer any regions recently (except Tibet), but that's not due to them being nice - it's due to them not having the naval capacity to conquer further regions. The only reason why China's Western Expansion stopped was due to the fact that they thought everything to the West was worthless desert. It wasn't due to the kindness of their hearts.
The Chinese attitude towards other races, as typified by some of my relatives, is one of shocking racism. Especially against Tibetans (who they deem to be almost sub-human and retarded) and the Uighers who they deem to all be terrorists and barbarians.
Still, I love China and its people. They make mistakes like anyone else, though. And it's good to remember that.
Im American/British but even more interesting on my american side I have some Cherokee lineage.
empires,genocide, nukes and scalping!
empires,genocide, nukes and scalping!
