The "Autism family": Is this acceptable?

[Riobux]

I believe she shouldn't be any more, and not because they have a high chance of having Autism, but just because five children is simply enough.

 

[Bat Vader]

In that case, health care should be cut.
The Family is deliberately causing these costs, and should pay for it them-selfs.
The moral implications of attempting to spread a gene into the society's gene-pool so fiercefully, that creates autism are questionable at best.

That is not the fault of the children but of the mother. Why should the children be punished for being born with Autism?

The children are not deliberately causing these costs. It isn't their fault they were born with autism. Punishing them for having a disability is wrong. If anyone is responsible it is the mother and father for having so many children.

 

[Pimppeter2]

being mentally handicapped means that they will most likely forever be taking more away from society than they can possibly put back

Wow, you're not that familiar with autism are you? Last time I checked, Sir Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein and Paul Dirac all made HUGE differences to the world.

If you plan to shoot me down by saying that those 3 were rare cases let me ask you how many non autistic people made contributions to the world that were on par with those 3, and work that out as a percentage of the total number of normal people. Now look at the severe autism cases, and work out THAT percentage.

There are millions, maybe even billions of people who will take out of society more than they can put back in, and it's not genetic. Those people are leeches because their upbringing hasn't given them morals or somewhere down the lines things have gone very, very wrong for them. Those kids, assuming that they have a good upbringing, and it's likely that they will given that she certainly seems to be a family person, will most likely put more into the world than the millions of people with poor upbringings. If you really think that just because they're DNA may give them some trouble in life, you're clearly damn near incapable of thinking in the long run beyond "Oooh, autism isn't too good, and there's a lot of autism here, it must be so bad that I should start a thread about it".

Edit: My apologies that turned into a rant. I believe that she should stop having kids in the same way that anyone else whould stop having kids after a certain point, though I believe that the autism is completely besides the point and I think very little of you for using it a centre point for your argument.

I have my right to share my opinion and you have the right to disagree with it and try to claim it as false. However, turning it into a personal attack is uncalled for and against the rules. You can feel free to disagree with my statement, but do not fallow it up by making claims against me. Its very low of you.

 

[Treblaine]

Society is over-rated, they're missing nothing.

As long as they've got a few good friends, that's all they need, you don't NEED an extensive network of friends and incredibly sociable life, facebook has been the most useless site for me. Then again, I do have Asperger Syndrome (like autism, but different) so maybe that's just me.

(PS, Aspergers thrive on the internet as there is no dependence on nonverbal communication, it's all right there is black and white.)

 

[LiquidGrape]

I wish people would stop this witch-hunt for autism.
It's bad enough that Autism Speaks are allowed to spew their ignorant bile.

 

[Hirushia]

I believe that it is morally irresponsible of her to have more children, just for the fact that she does think autism is genetic. Personally, I don't think it's genetic, 5 out of 6 isn't completely impossible, especially with the enormity of the world. But, thinking that you ARE producing mentally disabled children, and continuing to do so, is wrong.

Look, I have no beef with mentally disabled kids, but purposely making them is wrong because it does not advance society nearly as much and non-disabled people.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I'm autisic myself so I don't know how trustworthy my words are.

I dont mind that she's having kids who have autism, I'm more concerd that she doesn't get them some help.
I've been diagnosed to hell and back before they finally found out what was wrong with me. But by that time I'd already cemented the notion that my social incapability was my own fault.

 

[Shock and Awe]

NIEN! Sie sind eine Beleidigung für die meister rennen!
(translate it yourself)

Very well played sir. That was a good joke.

What joke?





jk

 

[Bat Vader]

I know I'm going to be hated for this. I do not care.

I think those children should be put down. I believe they should have been put down the moment they were found to have severe autism. I also believe the mother should have been sterilized.

I believe the same for all mental handicaps and disorders, along with some physical. The gene pool should be cleansed in such a way. I also believe that people should only be allowed children based on their monetary status. Poor, one child. Middle class, two. Upper class, two-three depending on where they live, and it's current population. The Earth is becoming too crowded. Hell, I also believe that the elderly should be euthanized. At around seventy, they just become burdens on society, and a waste of space.

I'm a stark believer in natural selection. Sadly, with the way our science and medicine are today, it's become much easier for the undesirable genes to manage to survive.

I have to disagree with this. killing someone because they are born with a mental or physical disability is wrong in my opinion. Forceful euthanasia is also wrong in my opinion. If they want to die than they can go and get help to die in peace, but forcing death on someone in my opinion is just wrong.

 

[JaredXE]

No, and she is a horrible woman for purposely bringing in a child that is royally screwed for the rest of their life. It's unethical, immoral and irresponsible.

 

[The Brewin]

Well I'd like to think on behalf of her 'hypothetical 6th autistic' that it has every much as right to be on this earth than anyone else, an autistic life is surely better than no life? I think its morally unacceptable to propose forcing someone to not have children, I appreciate the counter argument, but in reality the only person being hurt by this discussion becoming reality would be the next child

Also...it is statistically possible another child might not be autistic...like a 17% chance or such. If i was that 17% i would see the risk as being worth it

 

[Casual Shinji]

I know I'm going to be hated for this. I do not care.

I think those children should be put down. I believe they should have been put down the moment they were found to have severe autism. I also believe the mother should have been sterilized.

I believe the same for all mental handicaps and disorders, along with some physical. The gene pool should be cleansed in such a way. I also believe that people should only be allowed children based on their monetary status. Poor, one child. Middle class, two. Upper class, two-three depending on where they live, and it's current population. The Earth is becoming too crowded. Hell, I also believe that the elderly should be euthanized. At around seventy, they just become burdens on society, and a waste of space.

I'm a stark believer in natural selection. Sadly, with the way our science and medicine are today, it's become much easier for the undesirable genes to manage to survive.

You would've liked it in the Third Reich.

 

[Sajuuk-khar]

Well autism isn't necesarily that bad. I don't know what kind of autism these kids have, but lots of them are actually very intelligent and can perform well irl and in their careers.

Which influences the moral and ethical opinion as well. Just like: How bad is the autism they have? Why won't the mother let the children be treated? Why does the family want more kids?

 

[kawaiiamethist]

Isn't she too old to have more children?

 

[The Brewin]

I know I'm going to be hated for this. I do not care.

I think those children should be put down. I believe they should have been put down the moment they were found to have severe autism. I also believe the mother should have been sterilized.

I believe the same for all mental handicaps and disorders, along with some physical. The gene pool should be cleansed in such a way. I also believe that people should only be allowed children based on their monetary status. Poor, one child. Middle class, two. Upper class, two-three depending on where they live, and it's current population. The Earth is becoming too crowded. Hell, I also believe that the elderly should be euthanized. At around seventy, they just become burdens on society, and a waste of space.

I'm a stark believer in natural selection. Sadly, with the way our science and medicine are today, it's become much easier for the undesirable genes to manage to survive.

You would've liked it in the Third Reich.

and logans run

 

[balanovich]

she should be sterelized

 

[GiantRedButton]

In that case, health care should be cut.
The Family is deliberately causing these costs, and should pay for it them-selfs.
The moral implications of attempting to spread a gene into the society's gene-pool so fiercefully, that creates autism are questionable at best.

That is not the fault of the children but of the mother. Why should the children be punished for being born with Autism?

The children are not deliberately causing these costs. It isn't their fault they were born with autism. Punishing them for having a disability is wrong. If anyone is responsible it is the mother and father for having so many children.

If they are grown up they can get health care, i only have a problem as long as they are under their mothers responsibility.
Since they are American, they wouldn't have had health care anyway up until a few months ago.
Though I do support healthcare, I just think that the mother should pay for the costs that she caused.

 

[bluepilot]

Regargless of being autistic or not, I do not think that it is right for families to keep having children. Raising children is hard work, and I think two is the ideal number (one for each parent and ine for each hand).

Plus, with the extra challenge of autism, I do not know how she can realistically look after each child, with the care and attention that they need.

I am not saying that peole should not breed if they pass on genetic diseases, I am saying I think that it is wrong to have more children than you can pysically manage on your own. I do not think that roping people in to look after your increasing brood is very responsible at all.