This story pops up every few months, read the article in the proper paper IEEE magazine today (yes, they still exist), and, although it did go into the background of the guy more than most do, the first thing that still comes to mind is "The leprechaun tells me to burn things".
The Autistic Hacker: is He at Fault?
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I have high functioning Asbergers (and not all this self diagnosed, attention seeking bullshit), and I say he is guilty.
He should be charged with his actions just like everyone else. Having Asberger's doesn't instantly make you a complete retard with no knowledge, or awareness of what you are doing, and how it's affecting others.
I have made mistakes in the past (us as a human race ain't perfect), and I have learned to live with my actions. Which i'm sure that the hacker can do as well...in prison.
He gives a bad name for people with Asbergers, admittedly it's not our choice that we are born with what we are born with, it's how we cope with it that makes a difference. We are not all attention seeking dipshits, honest.
He should be charged with his actions just like everyone else. Having Asberger's doesn't instantly make you a complete retard with no knowledge, or awareness of what you are doing, and how it's affecting others.
I have made mistakes in the past (us as a human race ain't perfect), and I have learned to live with my actions. Which i'm sure that the hacker can do as well...in prison.
He gives a bad name for people with Asbergers, admittedly it's not our choice that we are born with what we are born with, it's how we cope with it that makes a difference. We are not all attention seeking dipshits, honest.
Eh I don't think he should go to jail I mean it doesnt sound like he took anything of monetary worth. I think he probably knew the risks and consequences but felt it worth it to pursue his love *shrug*.
Entirely irrelevant. They aren't charging him for intent, they're charging him for committing the crime. Whether he knew it or not, he broke the law and ignorance of the law does not excuse one from being subject to it. Like I said, he should still be charged as anyone else would, which he is.plexxiss said:
Psh no. There's no way he didn't realise he was doing something wrong. From what I've seen from the people I know with Aspberger's, they don't have much common sense but they can tell the difference between right or wrong.
I think if everyone should be treated equally, they should be punished equally too.
Now I live with someone with Autism and he's like, "I can talk to you like you're shit because I have autism. I don't have to pay bills because I have autism. I don't have to work because I have autism." For a lot of people it's a sloppy excuse.
I think if everyone should be treated equally, they should be punished equally too.
Now I live with someone with Autism and he's like, "I can talk to you like you're shit because I have autism. I don't have to pay bills because I have autism. I don't have to work because I have autism." For a lot of people it's a sloppy excuse.
Oh God, is my house mate your brother?! He sounds EXACTLY like him. I thought the tantrums were mainly to do with his upbringing and not directly linked to his Aspberger's because his parents just gave him and his sister whatever they wanted and now he's an adult and has to work for his stuff, he'll just start smashing everything up because stuff isn't going his way. My cousin also has it; he's 11 and handles it incredibly well. I guess it differs entirely for each person.Phlakes said:
Michael "I'll go and fuckup one of the best franchises about giant transforming robots by focusing 99% of the bullshit plot on the Macguffin human dickweed played by an actor who's last good role was a fucking DISNEY movie about a decade or so ago" Bay. That is all.Kiraxa said:
Also, I was being SNARKY and SARCASTIC (hence the [/SARCASM ************] tag) in my original commentary about that, get the hint?
One time, he ordered a pizza, and it was about ten minutes late. He wanted to call them to see if it was coming soon, but my mother was locked in her room on the phone with one of her old friends who she hadn't talked to in years. So what does he do? He starts yelling at her and trying to break down the door. My father comes to stop him, and after a bit of fighting my brother goes into the kitchen and gets a knife.plexxiss said:
Several things were thrown and windows were broken, and then the police were there.
It doesn't matter why he's a bad person, he still is.
Yes, he should be held responsible for his actions if for no other reason than to ensure he cannot unintentionally commit similar crimes in the near future.
Asberger traits don't really start until you hit puberty (around 13 or so).EeveeElectro said:
I should know, I was a incredibly popular kid when I was very young (I had great social skills, and was very bright for my age). It was only when i was 12/13 or so that i started to feel indifferent about myself, and closed off from society.
Jail him,he understood the consequences. As living with Doctors placed Aspergers, I know that nothing is wrong with you except maybe being a little thick when social graces are neccesary. He broke the law,and then got Caught. He can't use this as an excuse.
"On the one hand, yes he caused a great deal of damage, turned off several military systems post 9/11 and caused alot of damage." No he didn't, he looked at the files and left polite messages like "your security is crap". By hacking into the US government for a stupid reason (UFOS) he exposed serious security flaws that, if not fixed could have been exploited by someone who actually had bad intent. It should be noted that US gov security, at the time of the hack attempts was absolutely laughable. You could intrude into US military sites in 2001 by logging in as a guest.
Oxblood Ruffin of the famous hacker group, the Cult of the Dead Cow, gave his expert opinion on this topic two years ago. I suggest everyone read it.
http://boingboing.net/2009/09/01/gary-mckinnon-wanted.html
Oxblood Ruffin of the famous hacker group, the Cult of the Dead Cow, gave his expert opinion on this topic two years ago. I suggest everyone read it.
http://boingboing.net/2009/09/01/gary-mckinnon-wanted.html
Did he commit the act? Yes.
Was a medical problem the reason he commited the act? Yes.
Then he is not guilty by reason of insanity. Honestly though, that can be even worse then being found guilty. They're not gonna let him go for this, you usually don't get a slap of the wrist for stealing information and causing hundreds of thousands in damages.
Was a medical problem the reason he commited the act? Yes.
Then he is not guilty by reason of insanity. Honestly though, that can be even worse then being found guilty. They're not gonna let him go for this, you usually don't get a slap of the wrist for stealing information and causing hundreds of thousands in damages.
Breaking the law to prove a point is still breaking the law. Under that logic, I should be able to sneak a gun on a plane, throw it to the ground and shout "Your secruity is crap" and not get tackled by 5 Air Marhsals.scythian0528 said:
