The Avengers - you can say quim but not c...Huh?

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FamoFunk

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Jaga Jazzist said:
FamoFunk said:
**** coming out of his mouth would sounds wrong.
And the mental image is a little disturbing too
I found out they're making an Avengers Porn movie VIA IMDb. Mental image soon to be real?
 

ZeroMachine

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catalyst8 said:
CODE-D said:
Because I dont know what a quim is nor do i care to look it up.
I take it you didn't read the spoiler, & presumably English is your second or third language (your profile doesn't show your nationality) so that's fair enough on both counts. I should have specified that I was addressing my question within & from a context of native English speakers.
TheBobmus said:
Because it doesn't carry the same social taboo. You could call someone a cad or a cur with no repercussions either.
yes, but whereas cad means a dishonourable man & cur a mongrel, quim is a ruder version of ****.
Qitz said:
Both those answers above.

**** is a well known insult so it's not going to carry the same weight. I would bet most people thought Quim was some made up word just for that scene.
I think it's unfair to assume people are so ignorant of their native language. Are you suggesting that the censors let it through because they didn't think the audience would understand, or because they mistakenly thought that quim was less of an insult (within the context of the example) than ****?
Considering that the movie was made primarily with an American audience in mind (which makes it odd that you guys got it first XD), that probably answers your question. I honestly didn't know what that word meant before entering this thread, and I had only ever heard it once before (and I can't even remember where).

It's just a culture thing. Still a little odd, all things considered, but that's my best guess.
 

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RJ 17 said:
catalyst8 said:
I saw the new Avengers film last week & was pleasantly surprised by it. In contrast with most of the other Marvel films the narrative arc is solid, the plot competant, & the characterization rich.

What also caught my attention was a line delivered by
the main antagonist Loki, when he referred to the Black Widow as a 'mewling quim'. Obviously quim is considered a more extreme pejorative than ****, & yet I'm certain that if the latter rather than the former term had been used then the censors would have insisted on its removal.

I thoroughly oppose political & artistic censorship in all its forms, so was overjoyed to discover that apparently 'quim' is perfectly acceptable for children. This does beg the question though, why isn't '****'? EDIT: this is in the context of an audience of native English speakers.

CAPTCHA: in the limelight.
I think the Escapist Oracle has a great sense of humour.
As for why they don't care about the word "quim"...

CODE-D said:
Because I dont know what a quim is nor do i care to look it up.
This is pretty much your answer. I'd imagine the vast majority of the casual movie audience doesn't really know what a "quim" is to begin with, they probably thought Loki was using some fancy Asgardian word. :p

Dave Chappelle has a joke that relates to this in regards to the Lil' John song featuring a chorus of simply shouting "SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET!" and the fact that the song is being played on the radio without the word "skeet" being censored out. Why is it this way? Quote Dave: "Because white people don't know what it means yet! As soon as they figure it out they'll be like 'Dear god! What have we done?!' "
It actually turned out nobody cared what skeet means, I guess certain word sounds carry different weight and nobody cares to say skeet.
Also it had different meanings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeet
and it had to battle for the title with the word "cum" which I believe is the favorite.
 

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Never thought 'quim' was a rude word, but now that I've found out it's ruder than the C word, my dad isn't going as far as he could when he goes on a rant about my mother!