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RJ 17

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The Myths of Sheogorath are awesome! And a bit creepy, but that's Sheogorath to you...
Yeah, I love all the stories about Sheogorath. My two favorites are the ones where he makes some sort of bet with a mage, the wager is that Sheogorath will drive the mage mad within a year.

At this point, Sheogorath just sits back and watches as the mage's own paranoia drives himself insane, he becomes convinced that everything is a spy for Sheogorath, that the Prince of Madness will strike at any moment. Once a year has gone by, Sheogorath returns to find the mage a raving lunatic and he didn't have to lift a finger.

I also like the stories of Sheogorath fucking around with the other Princes, like the story of Sheogorath's little bird vs the massive, mighty beast of Hircine. The bird just tweets happily and flutters around, making the beast tear itself apart as it tries to claw at the bird that keeps landing on it.

Good times, good times. :p
 

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The Wolf Queen and Immortal Blood were always two of my favorites. Immortal Blood being the classic of course.
 

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I have to add my vote for The Lusty Argonian because that one was wierd and bizzare.

Also some of books about a certain Mad God. I just love that crazy guy.
 

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Just like how Sheogorath in Skyrim may or may not be the player-character from Oblivion should you decide that your character actually did shivering Isles or not, if you didn't then someone else did.
Actually - and I'm not taking away from anyone that imagines their character from Oblivion became the Sheogorath in Skyrim - Sheogorath in Skyrim can't be the player from Oblivion.

It's made quite clear in Shivering Isles that by taking Sheogorath's throne, no, you will not become an immortal Daedric Prince. You remain a mortal, you just wield the power of the Daedric Prince of Madness because you have his symbol: the Staff of Sheogorath.

The character from Oblivion died long, long before Skyrim. :p
 

RJ 17

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Oh, and as a statement of fact: the Oghma Infinium is the best book in the Elder Scrolls universe. :p
 

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RJ 17 said:
Actually - and I'm not taking away from anyone that imagines their character from Oblivion became the Sheogorath in Skyrim - Sheogorath in Skyrim can't be the player from Oblivion.

It's made quite clear in Shivering Isles that by taking Sheogorath's throne, no, you will not become an immortal Daedric Prince. You remain a mortal, you just wield the power of the Daedric Prince of Madness because you have his symbol: the Staff of Sheogorath.

The character from Oblivion died long, long before Skyrim. :p
Just because you are not a true Daedric prince does not mean you can't gain the appearance of one and gain immortality.

Daedra are Daedra because they didn't take place in the creation of Mundus, the mortal realm, no one IN Mundus could ever be a Daedra, but that does not prevent them from mantling a Daedra, turning into him in appearance, and gaining immortality.

Tiber Septim did it to the spirit Lorkhan/Sithis, the Champion of Cyrodil can do it to Sheogorath.

Furthermore the Sheogorath we meet in Shivering Isles wasn't the first one either, he was Arden-Sul turned into Sheogorath and he lived for thousands of years.
 

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Palla and Trap were good.

There's also the one with the guy who was a heavy armor master who slayed the man cheated on his wife by sneaking up the stairs on his hands and then fucked her while still wearing the armor.

Can't remember the name though :(
 

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Or Immortal Blood [http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Immortal_Blood]
This. When I first read while playing a obilvion I was amazed how good the in game books where. Got to love that twist ending ;D
 

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I like the series featuring Decumus Scotti,
A dance in fire
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:A_Dance_in_Fire,_v1
and The argonian account
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Argonian_Account,_Book_1

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find all the books yet. Guess I have to play some more :)
 

SajuukKhar

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The Song of Pelinal
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal

Just because it says, and was later confirmed by a game dev, that Pelinal was a time traveler from the future who could shoot beams of death out of his hands.

Pelinal Whitestrake
-Time traveler
-Avatar of Akatosh
-Avatar of Lorkhan
-Could shoot beams of death from his hands
-Could destroy entire armies by himself
-Had a giant hole in his chest and was missing his heart

One of the most badass badasses ever
 

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The first book which springs to mind is "Troll Hunting". I just like the humour of it. I have my bookshelves overspilling with books that I want to read though - just never seem to get round to it.

I think captcha is disappointed in me though... "lose face"
 

RJ 17

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SajuukKhar said:
RJ 17 said:
Actually - and I'm not taking away from anyone that imagines their character from Oblivion became the Sheogorath in Skyrim - Sheogorath in Skyrim can't be the player from Oblivion.

It's made quite clear in Shivering Isles that by taking Sheogorath's throne, no, you will not become an immortal Daedric Prince. You remain a mortal, you just wield the power of the Daedric Prince of Madness because you have his symbol: the Staff of Sheogorath.

The character from Oblivion died long, long before Skyrim. :p
Just because you are not a true Daedric prince does not mean you can't gain the appearance of one and gain immortality.

Daedra are Daedra because they didn't take place in the creation of Mundus, the mortal realm, no one IN Mundus could ever be a Daedra, but that does not prevent them from mantling a Daedra, turning into him in appearance, and gaining immortality.

Tiber Septim did it to the spirit Lorkhan/Sithis, the Champion of Cyrodil can do it to Sheogorath.

Furthermore the Sheogorath we meet in Shivering Isles wasn't the first one either, he was Arden-Sul turned into Sheogorath and he lived for thousands of years.
As amazing as the Champion of Cyrodil is meant to be, to assume that he could do something that only the man-god that started the Empire has done before him is a bit of a stretch.

Not to mention it would have to be a complete, 100% doppleganging of the Daedra, not just taking on it's appearance. Like I said, I'm not trying to take away from people that RP it that way because there is indeed wiggle-room, I'm just saying exactly what I said before: in Shivering Isles it's made quite clear that you're not Daedra, you're certainly not an immortal Daedric Prince, you're just a mortal with the power of a Daedric Prince.

Though personally I'd imagine that for the character in Oblivion to become the Sheogorath of Skyrim, that would mean that the character actually DID become a Daedric Prince.

Then there's the fact that, for all intents and purposes, Sheogorath shouldn't exist at all due to the way Shivering Isles ends. And for that matter, why isn't there a Jyggalag statue/quest in Skyrim?
 

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A Game at Dinner is a must read whenever I fire up an Elder Scrolls game. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:A_Game_at_Dinner
 

SajuukKhar

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RJ 17 said:
As amazing as the Champion of Cyrodil is meant to be, to assume that he could do something that only the man-god that started the Empire has done before him is a bit of a stretch.

Not to mention it would have to be a complete, 100% doppleganging of the Daedra, not just taking on it's appearance. Like I said, I'm not trying to take away from people that RP it that way because there is indeed wiggle-room, I'm just saying exactly what I said before: in Shivering Isles it's made quite clear that you're not Daedra, you're certainly not an immortal Daedric Prince, you're just a mortal with the power of a Daedric Prince.

Though personally I'd imagine that for the character in Oblivion to become the Sheogorath of Skyrim, that would mean that the character actually DID become a Daedric Prince.

Then there's the fact that, for all intents and purposes, Sheogorath shouldn't exist at all due to the way Shiver Isles ends. And for that matter, why isn't there a Jyggalag statue/quest in Skyrim?
-The Champion of Cyrodill is a Shezzarine, an avatar of Lorkhan, exactly as Tiber was, exactly like all the heroes of the games are. He was bound by fate and destiny to be super powerful.

-Not really, the process of mantling can change the appearance of someone and give them god-like powers without actually 100% doppleganging them. Talos is just Lorkhan/Sithis/Shor reborn yet people dont see him or call him Lorkhan or Sithis or Shor. The CoC can look like Sheo, be immortal, and have Sheo's powers while not being a Daedra.

Furthermore mortals can become immortal through various means, mostly CHIM, which is something that all the player-characters have to some extent.

CHIM is the lore explanation for why time freezes when characters open up the inventory, and why you can suddenly come back to life by loading saves. CHIM is also the lore explanation for the construction kit and why people can modify the world yet no one in the world seems to notice the modifications.

-Also Jyggy was most likely reabsorbed into the new Sheogorath

the best explanation is here
http://imperial-library.info/content/arden-sul-1

Just as Akatosh and Lorkhan, two kings, and two rebels, have killed each other, which is to say killed themselves since Akatosh and Lorkhan are the same person, across time so to must the two kings, Sheo and Jyggy, kill each others Rebels across time.

Just as Ysmir and Tiber, two kings, and two rebels killed the other in the founding of the third empire to make Talos

and Just as two generlas and two rebels killed the other at the end of the Skyrim civil war.

It is a pattern of mythic echo stretching back to the dawn time.
 

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Out of all the books I've read, the only one I can remember liking (mostly because I can't remember most of the books I've read) was [a href="http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Vernaccus_and_Bourlor"]Vernaccus and Bourlor[/a].
 

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The Five Songs of King Wulfharth
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Five_Songs_of_King_Wulfharth

The Arcturian Heresy
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Arcturian_Heresy

These two books are great because they expose Talos for what he really is, not one man become god, but three who merged into one to become Lorkhan that is Sithis that is Akatosh reborn.

All hail the three in one, the King, the Rebel, and The Observer, but fear not if you cannot tell who is the real king and the real rebel for they are the same, killing each other.
 

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Since most of my favourites have already been mentioned, I'm just going to mention the Songs of the Return [http://www.imperial-library.info/content/songs-return] as my favourite contribution from Skyrim.
 

SajuukKhar

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Do books made by devs but are not actually found in-game count?

There's a WHOLE BUNCH of lore texts that were made by Devs, but not put in the game, yet are still canon, that I could post.
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Loveletter From the Fifth Era, The True Purpose of Tamriel
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/loveletter-fifth-era-true-purpose-tamriel
A breif description of what is to come in Elder Scrolls 6 or some Skyrim DLC

Nu-Mantia Intercept
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept
A series of letters detailing how White-Gold tower, Numidium, the Throat of the World, and other mythic objects are keeping the world up and how their destruction is causing Mundus to sink into Oblivion.

Shor son of Shor
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/shor-son-shor-full
A story of how Shor once went to the underworld to speak to Lorkhan, his father/son, also called a mirror-brother

The Seven Fights of The Aldudagga
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/seven-fights-aldudagga
A series of stories set in Skyrim, talks about how Dagon the razor was cursed by Alduin amongst other things.

The Five Hundred Mighty Companions or Thereabouts of Ysgramor the Returned
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/five-hundred-mighty-companions-or-thereabouts-ysgramor-returned
A story about the original 500 companions

Vehk's Teaching
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/vehks-teaching
A series of texts detailing much about the cosmology of the ES unvierse