The Best Fictional (Super) Villain

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octafish

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Favourite Villains? Why I was just thinking about this earlier today after the disappointment of finding out Benny 'Batch is playing a South Asian superhuman.

Richard of Gloucester, who doesn't love Richard? Sure Iago is probably more evil but he doesn't have the charm, chutzpah, and outright cajones of Richard. The scene where he seduces Anne as she follows the coffin of her father (or husband depending on the production) is wicked.

Francis Urquhart, well he is an even more charming version of Richard.

Roger Delgado's Master, what I liked about Delgado was, although The Master was just as much a panto villain when he had the role, Delgado played it as straight as possible with out all the hissing and cackling of every future portrayal (I would have like to see more of what Jacobi could have brought to the character). And speaking of Sir Derek...

Caligula from I Claudius, oh yes it is most certainly his unpredictability and capriciousness that gets him ranked up there with the greats.

Judge Holden, a monster in human form.

Mr Nobody, the Dadaist supervillain who aims to steal the US Presidency with the hallucagenic properties of Abbie Hoffman's bicyle.
 

Vegosiux

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This guy:



Never gets fazed, doesn't let petty things like personal vendettas get in the way, never puts all his eggs in one basket, and even when his schemes get foiled, he's planned for that too (or was really after something completely different than it looked like in the first place), so he never really loses. Plus, he treats both his underlings and enemies with respect and dignity, and isn't above working with the heroes if necessary (or, when his plan C that involves relying on the gargoyles to do the dirty work for him fails, his plan D involves politely asking them for help). There's even some sort of silent agreement between him and the gargoyles that they come in handy to each other now and then. Hell, he even has a trope named after himself. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit]

A rather uncharacteristic villain for a Disney cartoon I'd say, but one of the best villains I've ever run into.
 

Ieyke

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Fappy said:
Doctor Doom is probably my favorite super villain. He's such a badass that the heroes regularly call on him for aid despite the fact that they hate his guts.
Two responses and the rest of the thread is already rendered moot.

Once again, Fappy beat me to the punch.

Doctor Doom is the only truly valid answer.

Ieyke said:
I can't believe everyone but Fappy has been wrong.

It took THIRTEEN!??!? posts for someone to get this right?

The greatest villain of all is Doctor Victor Von Doom.



Doctor Doom's appearance was representative of a change in the portrayal of "mad scientists" to full-fledged villains, often with upgraded powers. Doom is also emblematic of a specific subset of supervillain, referred to as the "megavillain". These supervillains are genre-crossing villains who exist in adventures "in a world in which the ordinary laws of nature are slightly suspended"; characters such as Professor Moriarty, Count Dracula, Auric Goldfinger, Hannibal Lecter, Lex Luthor and Darth Vader, also fit this description. He has been compared to William Shakespeare?s characters Richard III and Iago; all of them "are descended from the 'vice' figure of medieval drama", who address the audience in monologues detailing their thoughts and ambitions.

Described as "iconic", Doom is one of the most well-received supervillains of the Marvel universe, as well as one of the most recurring; in his constant battles with heroes and other villains, Doom has appeared more times than any other villain.
Doctor Doom was even one of the inspirations for Darth Vader.

Doctor Doom is commonly used as a villain to oppose entire teams of superheroes, like The Avengers, and Doom tends to be more than capable of dealing with them all simultaneously.
It has been said that in crossover events between Marvel and DC, Doctor Doom is never used as a villain because Marvel considers him to be so powerful that DC couldn't contribute characters to meaningfully contribute to the battle against him (Superman, for example, would be rendered almost useless due to his weakness to magic.).


Tony Stark once evaluated the armors of his various enemies, with the Iron Man armor always rating higher, with the one exception of Doctor Doom.

Tony Stark:
People say I'm a genius, but Doom operates on a level I can only begin to comprehend. I have a feeling that if Doom ever put his mind to it, he could make a suit of armor that would demolish mine like tinfoil.
Doctor Doom is also an incredibly powerful sorcerer, and has been named as one of the possible successors to Doctor Strange's position as Sorcerer Supreme of Earth (Doctor Strange himself has been described as "the mightiest magician in the cosmos", and as "more powerful by far than any of your fellow humanoids" by Eternity, the sentience of the Marvel Universe..)

Beyond Doom's status as a megavillain cultural icon, super genius, and ultra-powerful sorcerer, are the actual reason I like Doom.

Doctor Doom KNOWS he is the rightful ruler of mankind. He doesn't just incorrectly THINK it. He KNOWS, and he's RIGHT.
Doom has managed to conquer the Earth and various nations several times, he's done it in alternate timelines, the future, the past, and in the present where he was then overthrown.
Every time Doctor Doom manages to conquer the world it immediately begins to experience improvements.
As President Of The United States in the year 2099, Doom fought against the corrupt corporations who controlled all aspects of every day life in 2099. Doom recreates S.H.I.E.L.D., assigns agents to take down the Red Market (illegal trade in humans for experimentation). He also made the X-Men 2099 the law enforcers of Halo City, a place where mutants and humans could live in peace. He appointed Punisher 2099 to be Minister Of Punishment and Director Of S.H.I.E.L.D., and appointed Spider-Man 2099 to the post of Minister Of Super-Human Affairs.
Under Victor Von Doom's leadership the planet Earth has progressed closer and closer to world peace than it has through any other means.

Doom is merciless to his enemies, but he's a benevolent ruler to the people under his protection and rule. He has gone so far as to once having sacrificed his own life to bring back to life all of the citizens of his own country, Latveria.

Von Doom, as the supreme monarch of Latveria, has diplomatic immunity from the law of other countries, and has even had Captain America appointed as his bodyguard.
In fact, Captain America and Doctor Doom actually have great respect for each other, despite being opponents quite often.
Captain America once found himself without his costume, for some reason (it had been destroyed or something), and hesomehow wound up in Latveria, where he encountered Doctor Doom....who provided Captain America with a replacement of his uniform which Doom had on hand for him.
Doom has a very strict sense of honor, and will keep his word no matter what (you just have to be careful as to what his exact word actually IS). Doom keeps a Mauser auto-pistol as a sidearm for the sole purpose of executing enemies Doom deems to be dishonorable or unworthy of execution by his armor's weapon systems or his magic.
He has saved Captain America from drowning because Captain America had earlier saved his life, and on another occasion he thanked Spider-Man for saving him from terrorists attacking him in an airport by allowing him to leave alive despite Spider-Man subsequently insulting him. His code of honor also means that he will not attack a respected opponent who is weakened or at a severe disadvantage, as he regards any victory resulting from such circumstances as hollow and meaningless. He has even on several occasions battled opponents who were intent on killing the Fantastic Four, for no other reason than the fact that he does not want the ultimate defeat of the Fantastic Four to come from anyone's hands but his own.
Doctor Doom also LITERALLY went to Hell and back to save his mother's soul.

Doom's only real weakness is his arrogance and his hatred for Reed Richards. Exploiting these things tends to be how he is eventually defeated.

Ieyke said:
Saregon said:
Ieyke said:
The way you describe him, it really sounds like he's actually one of the good guys, but the other good guys are just jealous. Anyway, for me, this seems like too much. It reaches a point where the villain is simply so powerful it gets completely ridiculous. Also, you mentioned Dr. Strange. Is he really that powerful? I haven't read the comics, but I saw a rerun of the Spider-Man animated series a few days ago, which ended with Dr. Strange saying he felt like they were being watched by someone far more powerful than him (Madame Web). Both Marvel and DC have examples of this, like Galactus. I mean, when this: "Galactus employs advanced science capable of creating the Ultimate Nullifier, an object of tremendous power capable of destroying and remaking the multiverse" is only a part of your power, it makes no sense that the superheroes of earth are even remotely capable of fighting him.
Doctor Doom, as with many of the best villains, treads suspiciously close to being a hero.
Indeed, I'd say that he's both the greatest villain AND a great hero.
Doom has done some seriously horrific shit though, in the interests of his own power. While he may ultimately strive to be the thing that brings peace and protection to the world, his methodology and steps towards achieving that goal are almost completely merciless.

He's the type of guy who wouldn't hesitate to burn down an orphanage if he knew it would somehow grant him some sort of power that MIGHT very well be the difference between saving the world or having it destroyed one day.

But, on the other hand, if the orphanage was under his rule and thus part of his responsibility, and there was no potentially game-changing power to gain from it burning, Doom would rescue the orphans, put out the fire, save the day, and probably order a new high tech fire-proof orphanage be built in its place.

But then, if Doom was on some OTHER major time-sensitive quest, and stopping to help the orphans would cause him to fail...he'd probably let them burn.

Doom is a very complicated guy.







Kudos to those who mentioned Raistlin Majere, just because he's awesome and perpetually overlooked. He's really not a villain though. He's just uber-power hungry, causes a lot of collateral damage in his quest for power, and the sacrifices basically everything and then some to undo what he did.
He's not a hero or a villain, just the most powerful badass power-hungry god-slaying archmage around.

Also, points for the mention of David Xanatos. Dude is awesome.
 

njrk97

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this may not technically count as he is just anthrax but thrax from osmosis jones