The Big Picture: A Nerd By Any Other Name

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subject_87

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Wow there, I was just saying the other day that 'People who obsess over sports and reality TV have no moral high ground over people who obsess over comics and video games.' Uncanny.
 

Fox242

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I love how my beloved Cubbies are the sports world's equivalent to Spiderman apparently. You made a very good point here: sports nuts and nerds are essentially the same. I mean, I love the Titans, Bears, Sharks, Blackhawks, Gators, and Cubs as much as I love Batman and the Punisher (yes I root for more than one team in hockey and professional football...you gotta problem with dat?) I guess what makes a Trekkie different from a member of Cubs nation like myself is that Star Trek is fictional while sports are real and have consequences with the outcome. For instance, people bet on sports because they don't know the outcome before hand and there is a consequence of losing money or winning money. I've never heard of anyone throwing down 20K on the outcome of a Star Trek episode, but that's just me.

skylog said:
Wouldn't Spider-Man be more analogous to the Mets rather than the Cubs?
Spiderman isn't analogous to the Mets for one simple reason...they've won a World Series in the past century. The last time the Cubbies won a title, there was a Czar in Moscow, a Kaiser in Berlin, and the first Model T was hitting the streets. The Spiderman/Chicago Cubs analogy was made by Bob is because they are both losers: no matter how hard they seem to try, the things they desire are always out of reach.
 

GrizzlerBorno

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That was undoubtedly your best episode of the Big Picture yet. That long comparison bit had me in stitches.
 

Gralian

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I have never understood, not even once, how people designate which sports team to support. Why does it make any difference which rugby or football team you support? What makes any of them different? You can say you think Team A plays better than Team B, but next week and for many weeks after that, Team A might play like utter shit and yet there is still this complete support for Team A, when the most logical thing to do would be to support the winners, Team B for playing a good game. I just don't get it. Nor have i ever understood why the people who do like sports only like a certain type of sports, like baseball, but not others, like rugby. Finally, i don't understand supposed 'sports fans' who watch the stuff but don't actually practice it themselves. The kind of guys who have all the merchandise and watch it on their TV every weekend but have never once picked up a ball. Such a strange, alien culture to me.

I suppose one reason why 'sports nerds' are more acceptable are for two prime reasons. 1) Sport in general has been around far longer, and 2) There is a definite 'tribal' element to sport fandom. People get so up in arms that they can end up in fights and civil disobedience because their favourite team sucked in one particular game. People wear facepaint to show their national colours in the world cup like a bunch of savage cavemen. It's primitive tribalism. Compared to standard nerd-dom, we're arguably more 'civilised' that that, and we don't have that aggression. So when the aggressive tribes do come along, we're like herbivores standing in front of carnivores. We're naturally slotted into the 'prey' category. And since humanity hasn't got past the primal instinct of "women = go for the predator / alpha male / tribal leaders", the sports fans get all the girls, which is again another social signifier of 'achievement'. If you have the ladies, you've won the social game. That's just how it is.

All of that aside though, this was a far better episode than the previous ones Bob. It was really good to see you raise a real thought-provoking point and stay on topic. Well done.
 

anaphysik

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I've seen the similarities for a long time, though I do like your direct comparisons towards the end.

I must admit what I thought was the impossible: there might be something interesting in sports - tell me more about this "Bill Spaceman Lee" ....
 

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Verrenxnon said:
I just wanted to say, Bob, that this was easily the best of this column's editorials so far.
Your thesis was sound and interesting, your essay was on-topic, and your conclusion was appropriately inspiring.

Well done.
I wholeheartedly agree, this video was great. It was an interesting idea that made me think a more about the topic, it was funny, and managed to reach an adequate closure.

I hope he continues making videos of this quality. If he does, this could become one of my favorite series on the escapist.
 

MNRA

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Heh, preaching to the choir. I've used the words "games enthusiast" about myself for the last couple of years. Too many negative connotations to the word "nerd".
 

The Bum

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You know the whole mirror image but hate each other thing reminds me of soviet Russia and Nazi Germany.
 

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Gralian said:
I have never understood, not even once, how people designate which sports team to support.
Well, there's things like where you live and such or it could like me, when i was a child if i didn't like the LA dodgers i didn't get dinner =p
 

Geo Da Sponge

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I have always hated it when a sports fan refers to the team they're supporting as "we". You don't play in the God damn team. You have no influence on the team. They don't even know you. I'm a Valve fan, but when they release a game, I don't say "We just released a game!" Why? Because if I did, I'd sound like a fucking idiot. Guess what you sound like when doing that with sport teams?!*

*The answer is "fucking idiots."
In case you haven't seen it before:

 

Okysho

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Finally bob, finally

This was the one ray of light I was looking for. You finally took an actual good "big picture" topic and gave us the "big picture".

Please do more like this one. The more objective you are with your videos, the better they'll be. The more they deliver on the title too, the more I'll support you.

I had hope for this series because of your more unbiased reviews for your other series, this is the bob I wanted to see.

Thank you
 

Leemaster777

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Archaneus said:
There's one simple reason this won't happen and that's a non-trivial fundamental difference between nerds and "sports nerds." Nerds/geeks tend to be in the higher intellectual brackets than the average man... not even close to true for "sports nerds."
I would refer you to 4Chan and bid you good day, sir.

But in all seriousness, that's a rather broad statement, and not true in the slightest. Just because someone likes sports they're unintelligent? That doesn't really make sense.

For the record, I don't care about sports in the slightest, but I take any oppotunity to stomp all over ignorance.
 

MasterChief892039

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MovieBob, you're so interesting when you're forming your own opinion and making unique points instead of just talking about hot actresses and sex in movies. Although I have to wonder what world you're living in where "nerds" and "jocks" can't get along (do you reside in your local highschool?).