The Big Picture: Captains Courageous

[mexicola]

The saddest thing I learned all day - I already knew almost everything said in this episode. Once you have been geeked you can never be ungeeked again.

 

[Arison]

Wow Bob, I'm surprised you either didn't mention, or didn't know that Spiderman was the Marvel Comics' "Captain Marvel" for a bit.

 

[Undaunt]

rick jones ? i'm extremely interested in hearing bob's take on the character.

 

[punipunipyo]

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okay... so... can you then explain to me why in the trailer (the full pre-rendered) DC-universe online, on the "Lex Luther side", why is "Cap-Marvel (the DC one, of course)" on the bad guy's side? because I AM SOOOOO SURE that B4 the "NUKE BOOM", he said "SAHZAM" then "BOOM" it went... WHO WAS THAT ONE? it can't be the "kid" could it?

Nice informative episode by the way...

Might have been Black Adam. Similar costume, similar powers.

Thanks for the info...already googl-ed on the Black Adam fellow... thanks

 

[maximara]

So now you know that stuff
Welcome to my head

Your head is messed-up Bob
But then again so are comic books.

One day things will get really weird, when japanese manga enters this show. I knew about the dispute, but not about how weird was Cp Marvel (both) comics were.

Typically, most Japanese manga haven't been running as long as American comics, so American comics actually have the opportunity to be weirder just purely out of run time.

Actually, it is more to do with the fact that most manga are 1) done by the same people throughout their run and 2) do NOT have to deal with the issue of existing in a much larger universe. However if a series becomes popular in Japan the continuity can rapidly go pear shaped.

For example, Tenchi Muyo! began as an OVA in 1994, only 17 years ago has EIGHT (!) different "core" continuities: OAV, or Ryo-ohki, Universe; Negishi, or TV, Universe; Tokyo (STM! or TiT) Universe; Hasegawa Universe; Manga, or Okuda, Universe; Pretty Sammy OAV Universe; Pretty Sammy TV Universe; and Sasami ~Mahou Shoujo Club Universe.

All these series have manga based on them and some create even MORE continuities. For example the Isekai no Seikishi Monogatari universe manga starts in the OVA reality but then goes into an alternate reality. According to one FAQ there are no less then 13 (!!!) different manga continuities for Tenchi:

1. OVA Pure OVA storyline.

2. OVA + K OVA storyline plus True Tenchi novels and STM perfects article and various doujin.

3. OVA + MNE OVA storyline plus Hasegawa's novels + Manatsu no Eve

4. OVA + Manga 1st OVA series plus Manga.

5. OVA+TTM+Doujin There are a number of dojin that have work by the creators of Tenchi in them. (Mostly by Mr. Kajishima)

6. MNE Manatsu no Eve - 2nd Tenchi Movie

7. K Novels written by Kuroda and Kajishima.

8. Manga The Manga written by Okuda Hitoshi. Released under no need for Tenchi

9. Comic American comic run by Pioneer.

10. TV Tenchi Muyo TV series. Released under the name Tenchi Universe

11. K+Doujin Novels and Doujin from Mr. Kajishima

12. STM Shin (new) Tenchi Muyo. Released under the name Tenchi in Tokyo

13. Duel Duel has been stated by its creator as to be yet another Tenchi reality.


Another example is Sailor Moon (1992) which was originally only planned to go through what is now known as the Beryl arc. The Sailor Moon anime resulted in the pre-existing "Codename: Sailor V" manga being made part of Sailor Moon managa messing up the continuity and the popularity of the anime resulted in more arcs that compounded the continuity issue. The Sailor Moon manga universe has seen one formal reboot (end of Beryl arc), has at least three reboots to "the" future, and so many continuity glitches it makes the Silver Age look tame.

 

[maximara]

I'm surprised MovieBob didn't mention Captain Thunder with his alter ego Willie Fawcett (Superman (vol. 1) #276 (June 1974)). Thunder stood for Tornado (power), Hare (speed), Uncas (bravery), Nature (wisdom), Diamond (toughness), Eagle (flight) and Ram (tenacity).

There was even a proposal to create a black version of Captain Thunder for the main Earth-1 reality in 1982 that went nowhere.

 

[Mushroom 118i]

Am I the only one who wants to see Bob and Linkara team up to do one of these "Comics are Weird" episodes?

^This

I would very much appreciate this

Captcha: behind bsendi

A MESSAGE FROM THE GREAT LORD INGLIP! BROTHERS! WE MUST SEE WHAT LIES BEHIND BSENDI!

 

[ace_the_poet]

Great job Bob. I don't care that I don't follow comics at all, I still find you talking about them highly amusing.

 

[CrashBang]

Last I read, Marvel's Capt. Marvel was a Dark Avenger. Dark Avengers was a really awesome series
As for DC's Capt. Marvel, I have no clue what happened to him after Infinite Crisis. I've not read Blackest Night yet, though. He probably shows up in there somewhere... possibly dead

 

[Resin213]

I thought Captain Marvel was a bit of a stick, having not really read any of his comics but knowing he was DC and thinking it strange to name a character after your biggest rival.

And then I read Judgement Day.

What the hell was that comic called? Anyone? The one where Marvel slaughters Supes?

Kingdom Come - illustrated by Alex Ross (the DC Captain Marvel pic Bob was using), and the second best examination of how f*ed up it would be for an 8 yr old boy to suddenly become a near omnipotent adult hero after Miracle Man make that Marvelman!

 

[conanthegamer]

YOU... ARE... WEIRD... But I dig the show. Keep up good work.

 

[SanguineSymphony]

So now you know that stuff
Welcome to my head

A LOT of wasted space on boring topics?

 

[portal_cat]

I am taking a class in collage on comics and graphic novels. We talked about Captain Marvel in class one day.

 

[Brandchan]

I was never big into DC but because of 52 Black Adam is totally my favor DC character. I'd love to see an episode for him. I also love Miss Marvel too, so hopefully one day she will get covered. Honestly I could just see Bob doing a whole spin off show of "COMIC ARE WEIRD."

Man, I need to get back into comic books again. The greatest thing about when I worked at a comic book store was having access to all those comics.

 

[LackingSaint]

AND THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE


What a joke.

 

[Altair78]

I need to visit your head more often Bob. Good episode. I'm sure I'll have to watch it again to fully understand though...

 

[Amaury_games]

Am I the only one who wants to see Bob and Linkara team up to do one of these "Comics are Weird" episodes?

I'd sure love to see a video of them making fun of a particular weird comic. If that worked, I'd also love to watch their videos whenever they posted one.

 

[Brusveen]

Seriously wasn't there a time when this show was not just rambling about comics? Personally I don't give two shits about comics but i can endure an episode now and again, but I'd really like to see this show focusing more on gaming and movies instead of endless bitching about comics. Seriously who the hell cares?

 

[beema]

Pretty interesting, tho tbh, both versions of captain marvel sound pretty lame.

now I have... MORE USELESS FACTS
WOOOOO

 

[mega48man]

god dammit bob, we all like comics, but you're killing us here. honestly, i think the whole shazam thing is what turned me away from DC and lead me to become a marvel guy. he just looks stupid! just saying.

now talk about video games or something, gears of war 3 is coming, we're all excited for that, right? how about the avengers movie? (not comics, but super hero movies, i love marvel movies)