The Big Picture: Correctitude
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See I said the same thing about Resident evil 5 to my friends and none of them got it.
Thankfully you did.
Thankfully you did.
Funny how you quote the guy and yet still assume he's 'always' labeling black as symbolizing evil. But as for the color black, its a color we see every day, so it can have many different symbols. But when it comes to calling a person 'black' by skin color, I would say is pretty much entirely residue from American/European culture before those called 'black' were considered second class citizens (take note, more than one culture has been called 'black' in history, including Hindus). If you still can't see the issue with the skin color 'black', maybe look at someone you would call black. Does their skin absorb all frequencies of visible light?Father Time said:
Most likely not.
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Great video! Not much more to say other than, this was one of the best ones yet! I think when people try to boil anything down into either one thing or the other there's always problems. It's really just a case of sometimes people go too far, one way or the other.
That said I don't think Resident Evil 5 meant to be offensive, they just didn't think. But Resident Evil 5's biggest crime is still that it's just not as fun as Resident Evil 4.
Also I'm so bored of the way computer games portray women. I mean why do they both? Pixels aren't sexy, why bother trying to make them sexy?
That said I don't think Resident Evil 5 meant to be offensive, they just didn't think. But Resident Evil 5's biggest crime is still that it's just not as fun as Resident Evil 4.
Also I'm so bored of the way computer games portray women. I mean why do they both? Pixels aren't sexy, why bother trying to make them sexy?
Well, white people aren't white either. And there's no way I'm going to call people coloured, because I think it's offensive, and a lot of my friends would wince if someone called them "coloured".
While I agree with everything Bob said, I also cringe everytime my children watch various 'politically correct' cartoons telling stories like the three little pigs where they make friends with the wolf and invite him in. I also shudder every-time my society turns a blind eye to blatant sexism/xenophobia in the name of 'political correctness'/'cultural sensitivity'.
But I doubt either of those issues were what this was about.
But I doubt either of those issues were what this was about.
Being nice is different than politically correct as PC is going a few steps further to sanitize and localize and just make whatever it is you are saying that much more fake sounding.
Also you can be a nice jerk just like Bob. hehehehehhehehee
Also you can be a nice jerk just like Bob. hehehehehhehehee
I'm sure someone can educate me here, but what's actually racist about the fried chicken stereotype? If it is in some way linked to the oppression of black people, like '******' or talking about picking cotton, or slavery, or alternatively, the racism of insinuating that blacks are criminals or dishonest or ill educated, then it's bad, it's racism, cool, let's trash it.
However, if it's just something that's been noticed, that a lot of black people seemingly like KFC, then is that an insult? IF it is, it's surely on the same level as British people having awful food and only liking bland stuff.
I'm not trying to stir anything up, I just genuinely am not seeing what's insulting about the idea that some black people like chicken.
If the running gag was white people like pizza, I'd not be calling for it to never be mentioned on TV.
However, as I said above, if it's linked to a deeper and more offensive meaning, then I'm all for having it seen as a bad thing.
I guess my point is, is a stereotype racist, if it's not actually saying a bad thing about that race? It's not making fun of looks, it's not associating a behaviour with that group of people, so surely it's not up there with 'black people are more likely to steal' as an example of a stereotype that is harmful.
I will state however that I think the banning of the terms Master and slave in terms of hard drives in LA is ridiculous. Even if all master hard drives came in a white case and all slave drives came in a black case, it would still be a stretch to say it was reflecting on the slavery issues of a hundred years previous. Master and Slave are two words that are still in current use to describe things, and unlike words we want to see the back of, like '******', they're not only used in one, offensive way.
However, if it's just something that's been noticed, that a lot of black people seemingly like KFC, then is that an insult? IF it is, it's surely on the same level as British people having awful food and only liking bland stuff.
I'm not trying to stir anything up, I just genuinely am not seeing what's insulting about the idea that some black people like chicken.
If the running gag was white people like pizza, I'd not be calling for it to never be mentioned on TV.
However, as I said above, if it's linked to a deeper and more offensive meaning, then I'm all for having it seen as a bad thing.
I guess my point is, is a stereotype racist, if it's not actually saying a bad thing about that race? It's not making fun of looks, it's not associating a behaviour with that group of people, so surely it's not up there with 'black people are more likely to steal' as an example of a stereotype that is harmful.
I will state however that I think the banning of the terms Master and slave in terms of hard drives in LA is ridiculous. Even if all master hard drives came in a white case and all slave drives came in a black case, it would still be a stretch to say it was reflecting on the slavery issues of a hundred years previous. Master and Slave are two words that are still in current use to describe things, and unlike words we want to see the back of, like '******', they're not only used in one, offensive way.
Thank god I'm not the only one that hates Achmed the dead terrorist (or whatever)...
Every single one of my friends think it's hillarious as s**t. Maybe I'm just in the wrong place. : /
Every single one of my friends think it's hillarious as s**t. Maybe I'm just in the wrong place. : /
I get your point, but i think the idea is that you're singling a minority out for ridicule. The reason people wouldn't be upset over the 'what if white people liked pizza' line is because white people are in the majority and it's not got quite the same impact. Here's an example. Imagine you are at school. There is a small group of 5 or so nerds, the 25 other classmates are "normal" and the majority. The 25 classmates laugh at the nerds because they like nerd things like dungeons and dragons. The 5 nerds laugh at the 25 others for being shallow / liking simple things. Here, the nerds are clearly the underdog and the ones being victimised. You probably wouldn't think twice about the 25 other people being victimised, because they are the majority and the status quo. Using your pizza example again, if you stereotypes Italians as eating nothing but pizza, it'd be just as harmful - simply because it's fulfilling a one dimensional stereotype. Saying "Oh, Italians must only eat pizza" is on the same level as saying "Oh, black people must only eat fried chicken."SenseOfTumour said:
Incidentally, since there seems to be some confusion between whether you should say "black" or "African American", i'd like to point out that America does not constitute the rest of the world and some of us over here in Europe have no other choice but to refer to others as "black", unless we (in the UK anyway) have to refer to them as "Jamaican British". But then, not everyone is from Jamaica. The focus on what is and isn't acceptable to denote somebody as is one example of PC going a bit mad in my opinion.
There's a common term for the French in Britain 'Cheese eating surrender monkeys'.
Now I can see the offensiveness in calling them cowards, this stemming from WWII and from an ancient rivalry between France and the UK, who knows when and why it started.
However, the cheese eating part. France is well known for its cheeses, as it is for its wines. Therefore, despite it being a mildly derogatory term, it's not really unfair, as a lot of French people like cheese. (of course the cowardice part is offensive and rude).
So French eat cheese, English drink tea, the Italians eat Pizza, blacks eat fried chicken.
I'd say that to say that the Irish drink a lot is more offensive than saying blacks eat chicken, as there's just no real negative impact in saying someone eats fried chicken.
Unless of course, they mean it as 'KFC is a low class cheap eatery, and therefore blacks eat there because they're poor and low class', but maybe I'm overanalysing it in some bid to get an answer as to why it's bad.
As an Italian, I'd have every right to be offended about the old jokes about Italian tanks having only reverse gears, yet to say I eat pizza? Where's the malice or hatred, even if it is a shoddy, desperate stereotype? That's what I mean about the whole 'blacks eat fried chicken', while a stereotype, is it because of the example I chose above , or is it actually a fairly innocent piece of 'racist stereotyping'?
Now I can see the offensiveness in calling them cowards, this stemming from WWII and from an ancient rivalry between France and the UK, who knows when and why it started.
However, the cheese eating part. France is well known for its cheeses, as it is for its wines. Therefore, despite it being a mildly derogatory term, it's not really unfair, as a lot of French people like cheese. (of course the cowardice part is offensive and rude).
So French eat cheese, English drink tea, the Italians eat Pizza, blacks eat fried chicken.
I'd say that to say that the Irish drink a lot is more offensive than saying blacks eat chicken, as there's just no real negative impact in saying someone eats fried chicken.
Unless of course, they mean it as 'KFC is a low class cheap eatery, and therefore blacks eat there because they're poor and low class', but maybe I'm overanalysing it in some bid to get an answer as to why it's bad.
As an Italian, I'd have every right to be offended about the old jokes about Italian tanks having only reverse gears, yet to say I eat pizza? Where's the malice or hatred, even if it is a shoddy, desperate stereotype? That's what I mean about the whole 'blacks eat fried chicken', while a stereotype, is it because of the example I chose above , or is it actually a fairly innocent piece of 'racist stereotyping'?
So how is political correctness not censorship when Juan Williams gets fired from NPR after 10 years for saying "But when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they're identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."