The Big Picture: Dumbsday, Part 2 - The Reign of the Supermen

[Urh]

I couldn't help but chuckle at the picture of Nicholas Cage as Superman. If WB people from that time are still around like Bob says, I wonder if that means the new Batman vs Superman/Dawn of Justice/whatever the fuck they're calling it is going to feature a fight with a giant spider...

Hehehehehe....oh man. I really cant imagine why. One of the higher ups must have been tripping. It sounds like the kind of idea that gets stuck in your head when you do. "A giant spider...it'll be awesome, we HAVE to make it happen".

It was actually the producer (Jon Peters) who was pushing for the giant spider. Peters later went on to produce Wild Wild West, so I guess he finally got his dream.

 

[tzimize]

I couldn't help but chuckle at the picture of Nicholas Cage as Superman. If WB people from that time are still around like Bob says, I wonder if that means the new Batman vs Superman/Dawn of Justice/whatever the fuck they're calling it is going to feature a fight with a giant spider...

Hehehehehe....oh man. I really cant imagine why. One of the higher ups must have been tripping. It sounds like the kind of idea that gets stuck in your head when you do. "A giant spider...it'll be awesome, we HAVE to make it happen".

It was actually the producer (Jon Peters) who was pushing for the giant spider. Peters later went on to produce Wild Wild West, so I guess he finally got his dream.

Yeah, I know the story, but I cant for the life of me figure out WHY he was pushing for a giant spider. Its not like spiders have ever been some kind of cultural phenomena. Nowadays, I guess you could say superhero-movies are such a thing...but spiders? And giant-spiders?....It boggles the mind. To have the suggestion is one thing....but the insistence?

 

[daxterx2005]

pretty sure you don't have to say "Stupid Mullet" that's redundant, just say "Mullet"

 

[maximara]

I remember Superman getting 'offed' twice in the Justice League series, some puppet master or toy maker villain zapped him to an alt dimension while in another ep Doomsday did actually show up and they had a fight in a volcano or something, still not as confusing as this shizz.

It wasn't an "alt dimension" but the distant future after Vandal Savage used gravity control device that totally messed up the solar system.

In the Justice League series Doomsday first showed up in "A Better World" where the Justice Lord Superman (which originally started out as a Crime Syndicate story but evolved into an alt Justice League decided to "fix" the world by conquering it and then come to our reality) lobotomized Doomsday.

In "The Doomsday Sanction" it is revealed that Doomsday is a flawed clone of Superman originally created by Emil Hamilton (who also created a clone of Supergirl that is called Galatea who Cadmus used as a super assassin and revealed in "Fearful Symmetry".) programed to hate Superman. It is never explained why Doomsday was running around to be lobotomized by Justice Lord Superman.

In "Hereafter" Superman is blasted 30,000 years in the future by Toyman where he meets Vandal Savage whose efforts to conquer the world resulted in the destruction of the human race as well as totally messing up the solar system (which is why the Sun in this future is red not yellow). Vandal Savage reveals that he has invented a time machine but it can't send anyone into the past who is already there. Realizing Superman isn't in the past (Superman reminds Vandal that he is "dead") he and Superman get the power source from the giant bugs that dominate a good hunk of the planet and Superman returns home.

So as you can see Doomsday and the "death" of Superman is not as simple as you make it.

 

[Creedsareevil]

You know, the animated movie was kinda nice. It ejected the 4 superman thing, and had it not been for the title, his death at the hand of doomsday would have been a little surprising to the non-lore knowing viewer.


Yes, the movie turned silly REALY quick by stating that all lex luthor needs to make an army of superman is a bit of superman residue.. which should not be hard to come by normally....

 

[PunkRex]

I remember Superman getting 'offed' twice in the Justice League series, some puppet master or toy maker villain zapped him to an alt dimension while in another ep Doomsday did actually show up and they had a fight in a volcano or something, still not as confusing as this shizz.

It wasn't an "alt dimension" but the distant future after Vandal Savage used gravity control device that totally messed up the solar system.

In the Justice League series Doomsday first showed up in "A Better World" where the Justice Lord Superman (which originally started out as a Crime Syndicate story but evolved into an alt Justice League decided to "fix" the world by conquering it and then come to our reality) lobotomized Doomsday.

In "The Doomsday Sanction" it is revealed that Doomsday is a flawed clone of Superman originally created by Emil Hamilton (who also created a clone of Supergirl that is called Galatea who Cadmus used as a super assassin and revealed in "Fearful Symmetry".) programed to hate Superman. It is never explained why Doomsday was running around to be lobotomized by Justice Lord Superman.

In "Hereafter" Superman is blasted 30,000 years in the future by Toyman where he meets Vandal Savage whose efforts to conquer the world resulted in the destruction of the human race as well as totally messing up the solar system (which is why the Sun in this future is red not yellow). Vandal Savage reveals that he has invented a time machine but it can't send anyone into the past who is already there. Realizing Superman isn't in the past (Superman reminds Vandal that he is "dead") he and Superman get the power source from the giant bugs that dominate a good hunk of the planet and Superman returns home.

So as you can see Doomsday and the "death" of Superman is not as simple as you make it.

Okay, I was wrong, that hurt my brainamajigger...

 

[SonicMTD]

I'm just here cause I liked the K.I.T.H. reference.

 

[SAMAS]

I couldn't help but chuckle at the picture of Nicholas Cage as Superman. If WB people from that time are still around like Bob says, I wonder if that means the new Batman vs Superman/Dawn of Justice/whatever the fuck they're calling it is going to feature a fight with a giant spider...

That already happened in Wild Wild West.

 

[blalien]

And...this is why I never got into comic books. Either change the status quo or don't, I can't stand all these reboots and everybody coming back from the dead and everything pretending to matter but it really doesn't.