The Big Picture: Future Assembly
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I just want to put forward that perhaps the main opposition to something like this is actors. It would be prohibitively expensive to pay someone like Terrance Howard to pass up on other jobs so that he is available to play a supporting role in Marvel films. Continuity in main-stream, studio blockbusters requires that studios hand out bigger contracts and green light many movies at once. Marvel Studios will have to destroy all there big summer blockbuster competitors, in a manner similar to Pixar for other movie studios to want to follow.
Additionally if the cross-over concept works as well as could be hoped, then characters from one film easily appears in another and there is no explanation necessarily about who they are, but what happens when the same actor appears in an un-related film? outside studios will want to avoid hiring actors who have become recognizable characters to play outside roles and actors know that.
Additionally if the cross-over concept works as well as could be hoped, then characters from one film easily appears in another and there is no explanation necessarily about who they are, but what happens when the same actor appears in an un-related film? outside studios will want to avoid hiring actors who have become recognizable characters to play outside roles and actors know that.
But they've never seized the mainstream, and Avengers probably won't be the ones to do it for Hollywood. Because, as you said, this isn't new, and it's not something that's conducive to a lot of stories.Baresark said:
Because as you say:
This is a package deal. None of the movies are all that well written by themselves, so when you watch them, the only thing keeping you from staying on board is the promise that this is all tying together. Iron Man 1&2 were carried by Robert Downey, just like Hulk was carried by Edward Norton. Thor has a terrible second act with probably the fastest character turn around I've ever seen (seriously, he's there for like a day). And Captain America has an equally shitty second act with a bunch of slapdash action sequences that are only tied together because it's Captain America punching people. Pacing must've gotten blown up during that first rescue mission.
When the Avengers is over, people are gonna be back to those subpar filler movies that only served to remind them that this movie was coming, except now there's no pay-off.
Actually the Avenger's come out tomorow in my country, pretty sweet considering we usually get everything a week or two after everybody else.
Not that Im devoutly religious and believe it should all be pure and untouched by the way bob is saying, but I dont think taking a movie like The Ten Commandments and then referencing a movie like Indiana Jones would owrk well. They're two completely different genres where doing something like that would seem to me at least like a spit in the face of the former. Plus IJ was never really a focus on the object itself but rather the adventure to get there.
I mean, ones fantasy action movies and the other is... well, I guess depending who you talk to its also fantasy but manny others consider it to be a documentary (and this isnt just the Christians mind you, but also the Jewish and if anyone still holds on to the Egyptian godS belief them too.
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now, where I could see this wokring well in an application to a series im interested in is if Hollywood actually DID make a decent Dark Tower series like LotR got where it spreads out over several films, and then link them to Stephen Kings other films that have been made, like the books did to other books. They did it especially int he Mist (the very beginning with the painting), and it would give a good oppotunity to link it to both IT and Salem's lot (either the movie or the mini series), just to name a few.
I mean, ones fantasy action movies and the other is... well, I guess depending who you talk to its also fantasy but manny others consider it to be a documentary (and this isnt just the Christians mind you, but also the Jewish and if anyone still holds on to the Egyptian godS belief them too.
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now, where I could see this wokring well in an application to a series im interested in is if Hollywood actually DID make a decent Dark Tower series like LotR got where it spreads out over several films, and then link them to Stephen Kings other films that have been made, like the books did to other books. They did it especially int he Mist (the very beginning with the painting), and it would give a good oppotunity to link it to both IT and Salem's lot (either the movie or the mini series), just to name a few.
I've just got back from a midnight showing in Perth Western Australia, IT.IS.BRILLIANCE!
It moves quickly but contains a lot so never gets bogged down, the hulk steals the 3rd act, Tom Hiddleston is even better as Loki, Cap is cap, Stark is his usual quipping self. The fight scenes are well shot with no shaky cam.
My head is still spinning with it all already got my next set of tickets for tomorrow night with friends. I simply can't wait!
It moves quickly but contains a lot so never gets bogged down, the hulk steals the 3rd act, Tom Hiddleston is even better as Loki, Cap is cap, Stark is his usual quipping self. The fight scenes are well shot with no shaky cam.
My head is still spinning with it all already got my next set of tickets for tomorrow night with friends. I simply can't wait!
Exactly my thoughts. The Prince of Egypt is the only retelling of that story the world will need for quite a long time.Plinglebob said:
That said, I do kind of hope they end up reusing the Ark prop from Raiders, just because that would be a fun little nod. Filmmakers have been doing that sort of thing for ages. I'd probably be more surprised if they didn't.
...That actually sounds interesting. Maybe we could use more crossovers in movies... as long as they make sense, mind you...
We all know exactly where this will head in no time flat. It will start off with people just being in a role in a random movie that fits their current one then people go to see that dude play, then go to see the next one. THEN it goes into a sales tactic up the bum to where it literally screams GO WATCH THIS which screams the same thing.
And you know what, what happened to comic books will happen to these if it keeps going long enough.
Problem with Continuity in Comic Books is that they literally write themselves into a corner and have to come up with a "THE UNIVERSE REBOOTS!" Every couple of years so that they can avoid any backlash of it.
Bob, do you really want to see that happen when this happens? Or am I the only one that thinks its a terrible idea if this happens.
Having a community for movies you make isn't a bad idea, just remember that the minute it becomes a sales tactic and you try to make your romantic comedy entwine with the serious cop flick your going to have to pull a "THE UNIVERSE REBOOTS" out of somewhere.
And you know what, what happened to comic books will happen to these if it keeps going long enough.
Problem with Continuity in Comic Books is that they literally write themselves into a corner and have to come up with a "THE UNIVERSE REBOOTS!" Every couple of years so that they can avoid any backlash of it.
Bob, do you really want to see that happen when this happens? Or am I the only one that thinks its a terrible idea if this happens.
Having a community for movies you make isn't a bad idea, just remember that the minute it becomes a sales tactic and you try to make your romantic comedy entwine with the serious cop flick your going to have to pull a "THE UNIVERSE REBOOTS" out of somewhere.
So tied of the 90s sucked picture...ya know it was one of the most expansive decade for for geekdom and fiction. In fact the only ways the 90s sucked for you is if you liked wrestling....
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I think Bob is just getting overexcited again about this. Maybe some people from the industry will look at this and think it is interesting(like Warner Bros) but it required too much time and effort and success was not guranteed. It requireed different movies for all characters before a full crossover, how many studios would be willing to risk that much?
Bob, you are not the only one who would enjoy The Ten Commandments being a prequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark. I think it'll be awesome, too.
Also, love the pic you got for Steve.
LAZERCATS!!!
Also, love the pic you got for Steve.
LAZERCATS!!!