Look, I see what you're saying, but considering that some people are arbitrarily being denied civil rights, shouldn't we just look at this and say "Ok, we can take this hit, this is important"?CM156 said:You're missing the point, just slightlyJay Fakename said:I think that's a bit of a weird argument. Are you saying some people shouldn't have basic rights because they have the same chance as Straight Couples to get divorced?CM156 said:You're missing the point of the argument, dear readerVarya said:Well, regardless if you agree or not, it's a bloody lousy argument. Yes, it'd cost money, but if you are gonna exclude people from marriage because of the cost of the divorce, you should A)work do de-legalize marriage as a whole, or B)make sure the people that are getting the divorce are paying for their costs, or C) base the discrimination on marriage rights on people more likely to divorce.CM156 said:Actually, I've heard a secular argument:Agayek said:Honestly, I couldn't care less for gay marriage, but I've never heard an argument against it that was any stronger than "God said so!", and that's simply not a compelling reason. I'd like your take on it, since you clearly disagree.
Money. If we allow more people to get married, that means more people will get devorced, which takes up the courts time and money. And that also means that if they file together, they pay less in taxes. So we are left with a net loss.
Which means we either cut spending, raise taxes, or both.
The former is not popular with those on the left, and the second is not popular to the right.
Again, I don't necessarily agree with it. It just is fully non-God based.
You can't say "Ok, we can have SOME marriages, but we can't afford more than X so these groups are not allowed to"
That is not an argument against gay marriage, that is an argument against marriage.
You, I assume, favor gay marriage
Allrighty then, how do you pay for it?
"Sorry, but we were here first and we don't need anyone else getting divorced right now."
In all honesty I would trust gay people to stay together more than straights: They already committed to an "alternate" lifestyle. Most "Middle Americans" treat the institution of marriage with so little respect that they deserve it less!
My parents have married in the double digits, combined. That includes getting divorced. Wouldn't it be more fair to put a Marriage cap on so every Cletus, Bob and Bob Jr. can't keep costing us money?
Also, wouldn't having more family units benefit our economy? When you marry, that's a lot of money being pumped back into the economy. (Cakes, invitation, etc.)
You can get rid of this argument by presenting a way to make up for the shortfall in tax collection it would cause. That's all you have to do.
Don't misunderstand me, money and budget balancing and such are important, but you can't be paralytically afraid of giving up ANY money, especially when something important comes up.