While Magneto may be a raving Lunatic at times, if I suddenly spawned the ability to shot blades out of my fists you're damn right I'd join the Brotherhood.
The Big Picture: Magneto Was Right
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That doesn't make any sense, considering he's with the X-Men, X-Force, Avengers and New Avengers. Yeah, he has his own title(s), but Marvel will whore him out to anything if it meant more readers.HankMan said:My point exactly!spartan231490 said:but wolverine is on his own side. Specifically the, don't fuck with me and I won't cut you open with my adamantine claws, side. Which is where I would be.HankMan said:As much as I'd like to turn the world upside down Movie Bob, I'm afraid I'd have to to stick with whatever side Wolverine is on
Loved the reaction to Bill Gates VS Michael Jordan point. That says about all of it as regards our society.
I don't think most people who are bullied are special or necessarily different, as much as I may have wanted it to be true when I was at school. It is just that a lot of us for one reason or another were not around when they were handing out social skills. And I don't mean knowing what is the right fork to use. But the really basic stuff of being able to relate to other human beings. This is why bullied people are thought of, a lot of the time, as being 'weird', just because they don't react to things the same way as other people do. This is no fault of theirs but just that something happened during early child development.
That's why this idea that only intelligent people are bullied is rubbish as there a lots of very intelligent people who have never been bullied and are just looked at as 'one of the guys' due to them having properly functioning social skills.
I will leave you with one further though on how important social skills are. Scientist now know that the brain size of human ancestors brains did not increase as much when learning to use tools, as it did when social groups increased. I.E managing social interactions required more brain processing power than tool use. Go figure....
I don't think most people who are bullied are special or necessarily different, as much as I may have wanted it to be true when I was at school. It is just that a lot of us for one reason or another were not around when they were handing out social skills. And I don't mean knowing what is the right fork to use. But the really basic stuff of being able to relate to other human beings. This is why bullied people are thought of, a lot of the time, as being 'weird', just because they don't react to things the same way as other people do. This is no fault of theirs but just that something happened during early child development.
That's why this idea that only intelligent people are bullied is rubbish as there a lots of very intelligent people who have never been bullied and are just looked at as 'one of the guys' due to them having properly functioning social skills.
I will leave you with one further though on how important social skills are. Scientist now know that the brain size of human ancestors brains did not increase as much when learning to use tools, as it did when social groups increased. I.E managing social interactions required more brain processing power than tool use. Go figure....
You know something funny I noticed is that in all the Japanese animes that I have seen, that take place in or are about a school of some sort, the more intelligent kids are usually the popular ones. The Nerds are famous, which I always thought was funny, and wondered if that was the reality in Japan.
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It has nothing to do with nerds beeing superior, its because they wont fight back so bulies can do whatever they want.
Like Bob said, he is a nerd, so am I but come on, it isnt hard to understand what actually goes on.
Quite interesting. Oh, I see what I inadvertadly did there...
But anyway, I think I'd join the xmen in the end, but I'd constantly be tempted to..."accidentally" disembowel a few people. Of course, if most people chose magneto, it'd be an excellent point to exactly why bullying should be taken more seriously-It makes people who think they can do what they want to anyone at anytime out of the perpatrators (sp?) and can make borderline psychopaths out of its survivors, because like bob said, and any bullying survivor will tell you, the temptation for some kind of revenge is overwhelming.
But anyway, I think I'd join the xmen in the end, but I'd constantly be tempted to..."accidentally" disembowel a few people. Of course, if most people chose magneto, it'd be an excellent point to exactly why bullying should be taken more seriously-It makes people who think they can do what they want to anyone at anytime out of the perpatrators (sp?) and can make borderline psychopaths out of its survivors, because like bob said, and any bullying survivor will tell you, the temptation for some kind of revenge is overwhelming.
I'd join Magneto. No doubt. I was also bullied in school and the only explanation anyone ever gave me (teachers and my parents, the bullies never said anything) was that I was different. This lead to that I wanted to think I was superiour, but that image was torn down by the fact that I was not the smart one, not the one that's really good in gym, no real undicovered talent and so on. As a result I hate the people that bullied me and in the X-men/Magneto-metaphor I would go for revenge all the way.
"Because they're different" may in some ways be an oversimplification of "because we (those who are not the target of bullying) are the same."
You said it yourself, Bob- the bullies came in all shapes and sizes. Bullying enables some people to define themselves as not being part of the "underclass" despite their differences. Ostracizing the friendless geek suggests that I must be popular because I don't have to debase myself by allowing "nerds" anywhere near my social circle. Shoving the gay guy tells the pretty girls I'm 100% red-blooded male, baby! No matter how far "down" you may actually be, nothing makes you look higher than having someone beneath you.
...Yeah, humans can kind of suck.
You said it yourself, Bob- the bullies came in all shapes and sizes. Bullying enables some people to define themselves as not being part of the "underclass" despite their differences. Ostracizing the friendless geek suggests that I must be popular because I don't have to debase myself by allowing "nerds" anywhere near my social circle. Shoving the gay guy tells the pretty girls I'm 100% red-blooded male, baby! No matter how far "down" you may actually be, nothing makes you look higher than having someone beneath you.
...Yeah, humans can kind of suck.
As a girl who was teased, taunted, and bullied I can understand were bob is coming from and if I had the power I would smite the person who made me cry on a regular bases when I was a little girl... and maybe the teacher who just let it happen as well.
I know that I would join the good guys, despite the abuse, although I would sympathize with the "evil-doers". I won't let all the normal people suffer under the revenge-fueled anger of the Magneto faction because some (or most, either way) have a prejudice against mutants.
It's just the type of person I am.
It's just the type of person I am.
Wow, there are a lot of Magneto supporters on the Escapist. The decision not to join his revenge club seems perfectly obvious to me. While I occasionally feel the urge to get back at those who have wronged me, it's not my job. (Hence the classic quote: "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.")
so... this brings up an important question in my mind. where are the INTERACTIVE power fantasies that will let me torment my tormentors with button-presses?
i guess what im asking is... WHY ISN'T THERE A VIDEOGAME WHERE YOU PLAY AS A SOCIAL OUTCAST WHO GETS SWEET BLOODY REVENGE ON HIS/HER TORMENTORS?!
Bully is as close as it gets to what I'm talking about, but I want visceral action and the ability to REALLY make them suffer. Playing as either the nerd who gets superpowers and saves the world or fucks his enemies up big time.... yeah. i want a game like that now.
i guess what im asking is... WHY ISN'T THERE A VIDEOGAME WHERE YOU PLAY AS A SOCIAL OUTCAST WHO GETS SWEET BLOODY REVENGE ON HIS/HER TORMENTORS?!
Bully is as close as it gets to what I'm talking about, but I want visceral action and the ability to REALLY make them suffer. Playing as either the nerd who gets superpowers and saves the world or fucks his enemies up big time.... yeah. i want a game like that now.