The Big Picture: Next Light

[Edguy]

I must Nth the "why no Hunger Games mention" crowd, imo that is clearly the most obvious successor. With a $600M opening, it's pretty much there already.

 

[m19]

Can't imagine any of those other supernatural romance books being worse than Twilight.

 

[Silverspetz]

All is forgiven, all I ask now is an ancient Egyptian deity romance flick. Like... Not-Bella and Anubis hooking up to preserve cosmic balance against Lovecraftian horrors.

Bloody hell, suppose if you want anything done properly, you'll have to do it yourself...

That already exists. Read the Kane Chronicles by Rick Riordan. Awesome, funny, and a girl that genuinely ISN'T Bella falls for Anubis.

OT: I genuinely liked "The Host" ( like to think of it as Twilight done right) and with a director that actually does good work I think this could turn out pretty darn well. The sad thing is that no matter how it turns out it will probably never change all the negativity from all those who treat Meyers writing career as the end of literature. For God's sake people, she wrote a sub-par teenage romance series and got lucky. Will you stop slandering her already?

 

[Olas]

Why make a zombie movie if the zombies aren't going to be ZOMBIES? It seems like a pointless and self defeating premise.

 

[tautologico]

I love how everyone just comes together to rip on what the teenage girls like. You may not like it, it may be badly written, but that doesn't mean you should you diss it. Everyone likes stupid shit when they're teenagers and even if they still like it into adulthood, what's it matter to you? Don't like it, ignore it.

It just pisses me off a tad whenever I hear nerds complain about getting bullied or teased for what they like then turn right around and bully or tease others for what they like.

I don't understand the point of getting upset or annoyed with what other people enjoy when it doesn't interefere with your life more than having to watch a movie trailer from time to time or see the books on a shelf in a store.

People say they bash Twilight because it's "badly written". You have lots of "nerd classics" like Transformers that were really badly written too, but it's okay to like them in nerd culture. Go figure.

 

[Katya Topolkaraeva]

Actually i LOVED The Host as a book. yes the writing is annoying and slow like usual, but i loved the ideas in it and thought it was a very interesting plot. I think it was much too smart for twilight fans and non twilight fans didn't read it which is why no one seemingly liked it.

But yah, and btw, Hunger Games is kinda like the next twilight. except not quite the same of course. less pure chick appeal.

 

[Not Matt]

damn it. i was looking forward to not having to sit down and watch twilight-ish spew.

 

[Darth Sea Bass]

Where the hell can i find that god awful twilight clip with the cat? I need to share that with the outside world.

 

[Sean Deli]

Seconded. Too lazy to look it up, the series looks like a decent clusterfuck.

Spoiler

The main character is a (seemingly) ordinary teenage girl who falls for a magical demon-hunting guy. Turns out he likes her too and they have a bit of a smooch. At the end they discover that they're actually brother and sister. Ouch.

Spoiler

Half brother and sister from the father's side so at least there won't be any problems if they have kids (that only applies if they had the same mother or there mothers were siblings).

'

Spoiler: hold on

Actually they are full brother and sister. Same mother, same father. Father took off with the boy after faking both their deaths, mother took off with the girl to get away from the world that took everything from her.

Spoiler

Searching about the twist on MI:CoB I came across this quote:

"As readers of the series, we know how the story plays out. We know that they aren?t brother and sister. (http://tmisource.com/2011/05/17/lily-collins-talks-about-clary-and-jaces-controversial-relationship/)"

Dunno if it's true though...

Spoiler

they are not ________ and ______, by blood, father adopted him do to guilt over his experiments, however she does have a ________ by birth. All this happens in the 3rd book.

Spoiler

So... The plot TWEEST of this awful-looking movie/book series is that the MC and love interest turn out to be brother and sister... except they don't, because a later book rescinds this, making it an irrelevant piece of bullsh*t drama fodder meant to draw attention to a lack-luster series?.... Lovely.

And for all the people out there saying 'star wars did it!'... Yeah, no: the brother/sister pretty quickly got out of make-out mode upon learning they were related in star wars.
In this series? Ha, they're still making out, even when they think they're brother and sister. Classy.
Rather a big difference between unknowingly kissing your sister and knowingly making out with your sister because your boner for her is JUST THAT HARD.

I couldn't be less interested in the Twilight-formula-ripoff Constan-tween flicks, but... half-angel implied incest?
Really?
That's where we're going to add some spice to our love triangles now?

Oh, and for the sake of education...

Spoiler

This?

Half brother and sister from the father's side so at least there won't be any problems if they have kids (that only applies if they had the same mother or there mothers were siblings)

Yeah, no.

Autosomal recessive disorders occur in individuals who have two copies of the gene for a particular recessive genetic mutation. Except in certain rare circumstances, such as new mutations or uniparental disomy, both parents of an individual with such a disorder will be carriers of the gene. These carriers do not display any signs of the mutation and may be unaware that they carry the mutated gene.
Since relatives share a higher proportion of their genes than do unrelated people, it is more likely that related parents will both be carriers of the same recessive gene, and therefore their children are at a higher risk of a genetic disorder.
The extent to which the risk increases depends on the degree of genetic relationship between the parents: The risk is greatest when the parents are close relatives and lower for relationships between more distant relatives, such as second cousins, though still greater than for the general population

Yeah, it's done for shock value of "so taboo!"*, but I get ecstatic thinking about what would failed authors use for shock value once this thing gets stale. (and it will get stale quickly)

"Jim (the arrogant jerk with the heart of gold) falls madly in love with Jane (emotionless blank slate), but just as Jim was about to go for the steamy homerun, he found out that all this time Jane was - A DEAD DOG!"


*Que in XKCD with its "Hardlinked directory loop"
http://xkcd.com/981/

 

[theamazingbean]

The cynical side of me says you were trying to shirk on Thanksgiving week and decided to make a Big Picture out of the trailers showing before Breaking Dawn pt. 2.

 

[Entitled]

I don't know why but I always get too angry at seeing two guy-one girl love triangles.
I always try to find to opposite after seeing those by mistake but never succeed. This episode kind of angered me again because of that reason.
Does anyone know any movie that features the opposite love triangle?

Try anime series.

A significant percentage of them are male-protagonist-based love triangle stories, and much of the rest are harem comedies. At least in the modern otaku-oriented industry.

 

[Markunator]

I'm surprised that The Hunger Games wasn't mentioned. It's yet another blandly written love-triangle book series with an inexplicably "special" female lead based on a mythos mostly ripped from other sources. I guess the only thing it's lacking is monsters.

The Hunger Games is actually very good, and just because it shares similarities with other works doesn't mean it ripped them off.

 

[belladonna77]

I can't believe MovieBob skipped explaining how Cassandra Clare's stories are basically Harry Potter fanfic she revamped for her books and that a lot of her fanfiction was filled with plagiarism. She is a horrible person.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

Anyone else hear shadowhunter and start thinking Gabriel Knight?

No, but Gabriel Knight made me start thinking of Michael Knight.

I think every romantic teen movie would be improved by David Hasselhoff and Kitt arriving half-way through to bust up the annoying douchey guys, seduce their women-folk, and solve the major plot issues with some sweet car jumps.

Except 10 Things I hate about you, because that teen movie was awesome!

 

[Hagi]

If at first you do succeed
Twi, Twi, Twi again.

Yep that's Hollywood for you.

Incidentally, that Warm Bodies looks incredibly stupid, at least based on the scene where the zombie "falls" for the girl. Oh god... *facepalm*

It's not quite so bad.

I read the book (I think... unless there's another zombie romance out there) and it's presented pretty decently.

Zombies eat brains because by eating them they get to experience some of the memories of that person, letting them experience life again for a little bit. It's basically their heroin, giving them an addicting euphoric experience.

And said zombie just ate a guy who was in love with said girl (can't remember if he was her boyfriend but I don't think so). And the memories he experiences in his rush are of her and they stick somewhat.

So instead of eating her as well he basically kidnaps her because he wants his heroin rush to last instead of having to go out and hunt people again and again to experience life for a bit.

I don't know how they'll do it in the movie, I'm quite afraid they'll try the whole romance expressed solely through intense stares method which will fail horribly. But the basic premise of the book was pretty decent. Not great, but definitely okay.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

If at first you do succeed
Twi, Twi, Twi again.

Yep that's Hollywood for you.

Incidentally, that Warm Bodies looks incredibly stupid, at least based on the scene where the zombie "falls" for the girl. Oh god... *facepalm*

It's not quite so bad.

I read the book (I think... unless there's another zombie romance out there) and it's presented pretty decently.

Zombies eat brains because by eating them they get to experience some of the memories of that person, letting them experience life again for a little bit. It's basically their heroin, giving them an addicting euphoric experience.

And said zombie just ate a guy who was in love with said girl (can't remember if he was her boyfriend but I don't think so). And the memories he experiences in his rush are of her and they stick somewhat.

So instead of eating her as well he basically kidnaps her because he wants his heroin rush to last instead of having to go out and hunt people again and again to experience life for a bit.

I don't know how they'll do it in the movie, I'm quite afraid they'll try the whole romance expressed solely through intense stares method which will fail horribly. But the basic premise of the book was pretty decent. Not great, but definitely okay.

Maybe, but you have to admit that that clip Bob showed was pretty horrible, what with the cheesy music and everything. Then there's the inevitable... *shiver* ...Ugh I just don't want to think about that. Which again from what Bob showed us, does happen.

 

[Hagi]

I love how everyone just comes together to rip on what the teenage girls like. You may not like it, it may be badly written, but that doesn't mean you should you diss it. Everyone likes stupid shit when they're teenagers and even if they still like it into adulthood, what's it matter to you? Don't like it, ignore it.

It just pisses me off a tad whenever I hear nerds complain about getting bullied or teased for what they like then turn right around and bully or tease others for what they like.

I don't understand the point of getting upset or annoyed with what other people enjoy when it doesn't interefere with your life more than having to watch a movie trailer from time to time or see the books on a shelf in a store.

People say they bash Twilight because it's "badly written". You have lots of "nerd classics" like Transformers that were really badly written too, but it's okay to like them in nerd culture. Go figure.

To be fair, if there's one thing Nerds rip on more than anything else it's their own material.

The Mass Effect 3 ending? The Star Wars prequels? Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball? Call of Duty? World of Warcraft? Diablo 3? Dead Space 3? The Green Lantern movie?

The amount of time 'nerds' spend hating nerd culture is far greater than the amount of time they spend hating things outside of nerd culture.

Not to mention the amount of time spend hating the various sub-groups in nerd culture.

Console tards? PC elitists? Casual gamers? Hardcore gamers? Shooter frat boys? Classic RPG spreadsheet nerds? 'Gurl gamurz'? White knights? Misogynistic douchebags? Basement virgins? Bioware fans? Nintendo fans? Sonic fans? Fans of whatever?

It's almost inclusive behavior. It's like Twilight fans are part of our culture. We hate their material, we hate their fandom, we hate just about everything about them. Just like we hate our own material, our own fandoms and just about everything about ourselves.

 

[tautologico]

I love how everyone just comes together to rip on what the teenage girls like. You may not like it, it may be badly written, but that doesn't mean you should you diss it. Everyone likes stupid shit when they're teenagers and even if they still like it into adulthood, what's it matter to you? Don't like it, ignore it.

It just pisses me off a tad whenever I hear nerds complain about getting bullied or teased for what they like then turn right around and bully or tease others for what they like.

I don't understand the point of getting upset or annoyed with what other people enjoy when it doesn't interefere with your life more than having to watch a movie trailer from time to time or see the books on a shelf in a store.

People say they bash Twilight because it's "badly written". You have lots of "nerd classics" like Transformers that were really badly written too, but it's okay to like them in nerd culture. Go figure.

To be fair, if there's one thing Nerds rip on more than anything else it's their own material.

The Mass Effect 3 ending? The Star Wars prequels? Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball? Call of Duty? World of Warcraft? Diablo 3? Dead Space 3? The Green Lantern movie?

The amount of time 'nerds' spend hating nerd culture is far greater than the amount of time they spend hating things outside of nerd culture.

Not to mention the amount of time spend hating the various sub-groups in nerd culture.

Console tards? PC elitists? Casual gamers? Hardcore gamers? Shooter frat boys? Classic RPG spreadsheet nerds? 'Gurl gamurz'? White knights? Misogynistic douchebags? Basement virgins? Bioware fans? Nintendo fans? Sonic fans? Fans of whatever?

It's almost inclusive behavior. It's like Twilight fans are part of our culture. We hate their material, we hate their fandom, we hate just about everything about them. Just like we hate our own material, our own fandoms and just about everything about ourselves.

It's true, there's a lot of hate going around in nerd culture. I often find gamer forums depressing, even here, because it seems no one likes games anymore, it's just hate. Sometimes I'm around movie buffs (personally and in online forums) and it's generally not like that: people discuss what they love about movies, or even criticize movies they don't like, but it's rarely with the same amount of hate I see here. It's sad, but then I remember most people here (and probably in other gamers' forums) are quite young.