The Big Picture: Once Upon a Time in The Future

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sycoesis

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if we abandon the space program we deserve our fate it is my believe that if it wasnt for the space program our country wouldnt be hear today and with out it we sure as hell wont be hear tomorrow and i wont be one bit sad to see us go
 

O'Kneel

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Honestly, I'm glad NASA is getting the boot. Its bureaucracy has become so large and redundant that it takes a mountain of paperwork just to get stuff into space, and NASA's activity has slowed down so much that bureaucrats have to make up bs rules in order to justify their jobs. If private firms step in to fill the void (assuming they actually want to do things in space), they would probably find much cheaper and faster ways of getting into space
 

Zer_

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Honestly, people who think that space travel is a waste of time are idiots. NASA is directly and indirectly responsible for a ton of advances in technology that actually DO help the world at large.

If the US wants to help people, then they should cut down on their fucking retarded military budget.
 

Emergent System

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Superior Mind said:
I definitely find myself frustrated sometimes with the stagnation of human accomplishment.
Wow, this statement is so daft it was hard not to reply with an insult. Average human lifespan in the west has gone from around 40 to nearly 80 in less than 100 years. We are advancing at a rate far beyond anything ever known to exist, and it is vastly accelerating. The most defining trait of our culture today is that it CHANGES FASTER THAN ANY OTHER TIME IN HISTORY.

For you to make a statement like that I can only assume that you know literally nothing about history, much like how I must assume that your forum name is supposed to be ironic.
 

Nurb

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MovieBob said:
Nobody seems to care.
That's because more people are worried about their job or people with college education that can't get a job in their field and are looking at under-employment than those who want to see the moon and mars colonized.

I love the space program, but it's one of the more expensive areas that aren't essential to the current economic shithole. THey'll still be researching and experimenting and all that stuff, but not building shuttles and building moon bases, which for the time being I agree with.

We have republicans thinking cutting taxes will reduce debt and are more willing to cut medicare and social security than allow the people who can afford it most get a 3-4% increase. So until they're willing to have reasonable tax increases, we're going to have to cut expensive programs so we can keep the essential ones. It sucks, but there it is.
 

Souplex

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What happened is people realized space is an airless wasteland, and we couldn't colonize it within a human lifetime. And do you really want to see the next messed up generation getting what the clearly superior Animaniacs generation, and even your semi-tolerable He-Man (Yes, I'm naming generations by the cartoons which embody the mass media) didn't? No. Screw those jerks!
 

neoontime

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I remember being outraged when they were talking about some of this on the Colbert Report. Now I couldn't care less. I miss past me. :(
 

Ashoten

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cathou said:
actually, what happened to the space program is that the USA lack a competitor. The WW2 and the cold war with the USSR, as bad wars are, did give a big kick in the ass to the humanity. By fearing that the communist would populate the moon first, the USA push themselve over their limit and created the apollo program. Now that the focus is only on war against terrorist, that push is no longer there. I bet that if al-kaida was an actual country and that they were trying to go on mars first, chance are that the space program would be still nicely funded.
Good point.
Also progress in the long run will do a better job to help the poor and needy. We didn't just jump straight from making fire to building hospitals. Hospitals in a country that is rich enough to fix you first and ask questions later.
 

Reeves88

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i agree with almost everything bob said in this clip and sorry if that makes me a heartless bastard but children starving e.t.c is mostly due to the earth being over populated... hmmm how could we get rid of a bunch of people with out mass murder, i wonder.
 

TheSYLOH

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The internet seems to hate all scripture.
But this is one of the rare instance where i think it's appropriate
Matthew 26: 1 "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me."

Translation: There's always going to be some poor shmuck around.
And if even Jesus can say screw it, live a little. Why not you?

Like wise with a space program and social programs.
Thats not to say completely ignore social programs, but you definitely don't have to devote all your effort to them.
 

acutekat

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Bob, I have to say I'm right there with you, often times I disagree with your reviews and some of the political dialogue that has accompanied it but this instance I am with you 100%. I was heart broken when they said Constellation got the ax and nothing was going to replace it. I get really mad when people look up and say "Space.... eh?" and all they see is dollar signs, no matter the fact that NASA gets a pitiful portion of the national budget, less than 1% I think, if I had my way we would be spending 5-10% just on NASA and a whole heap more on pure R&D. What this country needs is more progress (and not the change and progress the politicians shout at the top of their lungs), Technological Progress, the progress where we can say, we did it, we got there, we planted the flag, we cured cancer, we got cold fusion, we built a building as tall as Rhode Island is wide, we went the distance, we didn't give up, we made the impossible possible. I want humanity to finally get off this greasily little blue and green mud ball and get out there into the universe and start to really establish our legacy.
 

MatsVS

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Thinking of the moon as an American colony give me shivers, so I'm quite relieved.
 

Tdc2182

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In all fairness, We have much better ways to spend our money. Like you admitted.

But then again, its kind of the "Well... you did all you could but its still not enough" sort of situation. A lot like the opposition to Obama, for example.

Problems on Earth blow. Yet, we still have the obligation as decent human beings.
 

Tdc2182

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Archangel357 said:
JoeyMousepadd said:
I don't understand how asking for proof of where Obama was born is racist. You have to be born in the US to be president, no matter what color your skin is.

You could argue that isn't been asked and answered, or is no longer in question. That's fine. Argue that the burden of proof has been met. No problem. But racist for asking? That's just plain lazy. "I don't like that you ask those questions, so I'm going to just call you a racist, and hope that you go away."
Sure, and every WHITE president has had a bunch of mouth-breathers asking whether he was born in Sweden, Scotland, or Croatia.

Oh, wait, that didn't happen.

But the first time a black man takes office, it JUST SO HAPPENS... Sure, buddy. Lemme guess, you start every other sentence with "I'm not a racist, but..."
Give this man a medal.