The Big Picture: PC Gaming Is Dead - Long Live PC Gaming!

[veloper]

Not very good.

Bob forgets one crucial thing: you'll still want a big screen (when you're not travelling). The screen is immobile most of the time, so the PC doesn't have to move either.
Don't expect futuristic implants in any forseable time.

This screen may be a future high resolution TV instead of a "monitor", but there would basicly no difference anyway. It's a big screen; you don't carry it with you.

The PC itself may even become smaller, but that doesn't make the old tower any less viable.

And finally when you do want to take a device with you: if the hardware is advanced enough and it runs Windows, it basicly is a PC.
Laptops ARE PCs, something even smaller can also be a PC.

 

[Don Reba]

Smart phones are actually much closer to handheld consoles than PCs. Windows Mobile was the last mobile platform where the platform owner did not control distribution, and it died.

 

[DaBozz]

I'm only on page two of this tread and all I can say is "Yay for immature PC fans"
your hardly showing yourself in any good lite with some of these responses.
yet if moviebob had said "Console gaming as we know it is dead" everyone (Even console gamers) would be fine with it, because things are changing...just look at the 3DS, the Kinect and the playstation movie. so come on pc gamers, wheres the maturity I see on the extra credits threads huh ?

 

[drunken_munki]

This whole video was retarded. If PC's were obsolete then why are the biggest consoles offering keyboards and mice? Yes FPS have migrated successfully to consoles, but many still agree that PC FPS gaming is sharper due to the controls.

Plus, real work is done on a PC. P.s. laptops and etc are still fucking PC's. The only thing dead is depth in some PC gaming, as companies migrate to the build-generic-game-and-port-to-all-consoles-and-PC model.

Tbh, I stopped watching bob's vids after he claimed Watchmen was the single most important film in blah blah blah. Absolute garbage. And before someone blabbers on about, 'if you don't like it don't watch it', yeah I agree. However, the headline of this vid is so arrogant and blatant flame bait I had to see what was contained within.

/rant off.

 

[Antari]

Ya OK Bob. If you want to believe that you go right ahead and jump on the Patcher train. Cya around.

 

[Krantos]

See, the problem here is he's ignoring/not realizing several factors.

1. Mods. And by extension development in general. For the time being, computers are still crucial to actually make games. Developers aren't coding Killzone or Bulletstorm on the 360. Not even the PS3 (as far as I know). That's still being done on computers.

2. Versatility. Perhaps this dates me a bit, but I don't own a tablet, or an iPhone, and my netbook has 1GB of RAM. Why do I need all those peripherals when I have one, not very intrusive machine that does everything they can do?

3. Upgradeable. Ok, this one's debatable. Not whether it's true, but whether it is a good thing. Nevertheless, computers can be upgraded/modified at the user's discretion, allowing advancements in graphics and processing that consoles can't keep up with.

4.Steam/Impulse. The obvious counter-point here is that each system has it's own digital distribution; however, they're all owned and controlled by the respective company. With the PC you still get the choice. That means competition. In an industry that is getting increasingly bad with customer satisfaction, competition keeps PC services on their toes. Do you have any idea how many people would jump ship to Impulse if Valve started acting like EA?

5. Design. This one can easily be changed, but as yet it has not been addressed. Yes, you CAN use a mouse and keyboard on any of the consoles, but what games actually support that?



And here's the Count of Monte Cristo-esque twist in this story: I consider myself a console gamer. I do approx. 25% of my gaming on the PC, the rest is on my 360. So why did I go to such lengths to defend PC gaming? Simply because Movie Bob is being a dick.

There were a million different ways he could have addressed this topic that would have pissed nobody (or at least not as many people) off. Instead, he directly insults PC gamers, and then tries to trivialize their opinion; Ad hominem and reducio ad absudum all at once. Classy, Bob. :|

Phrasing your opinion in this way doesn't make you anything but an ass.

 

[cavalerie]

I just lost all respect I had for Bob.
I don't know what happened (maybe his Windows crashed and he's not smart enough to reinstall it)that made him go on this rant, but this is the most ignorant piece of shit I had the displeasure of hearing in a few years.
Sorry Bob but PC gaming is not going to die, not only that it's doing better and better every year.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

For once Bob, couldn't agree more.

Don't get me wrong I do acknowledge there is a lot to like about PC gaming, although I'm not a PC gamer myself (that's just because I'm useless with a keyboard and mouse and have never really owned a PC than can support games properly). But lets face it, as soon as consoles can match PC's for graphic capability their will be next to no reason to play a game on your 12 inch PC screen when you have a 40 inch TV downstairs.

 

[Quesa]

I repeat, consoles are pc's with limited options and unupgradeable hardware.

Absolutely true, but you should add with an artificially lowered price point by the primary vendor in order to tax everything going forward. I imply that occasionally by referring to modern consoles as "consoles." I abhor them for the same reason I abhor Apple, completely closed hardware/software paths.

 

[Nimcha]

Hmm. I don't own any consoles but I do play games. I guess that makes me a PC gamer?

I don't really want to associate with that label though. It seems toxic.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

if moviebob had said "Console gaming as we know it is dead" everyone (Even console gamers) would be fine with it

You're wrong and you know you are wrong.
This thread has yet to indulge in merely throwing insults back and forward, so please take that kind of mentality out of this. The PC audience has made valid points here, and it's long been established that the matter is less GAMING as it is FUNCTION.
Maybe read past page 2...?

 

[OtherSideofSky]

Um, Bob?
My notebook is, in fact, a PC. Just saying.
I don't use it for gaming nearly as much as my consoles because most of my favorite genres have never really been PC-focused, but I still use it for the occasional purchase from GoG and I can't imagine why I would ever want to play these games on a tiny phone screen. A sufficiently advanced tablet might be cool, but craning over it to get a good viewing angle would get annoying fast.

I will agree that the PC as a clearly differentiated platform will eventually disappear (or possibly everything else will) and that fanatical PC gamers who feel the need to act all high and mighty are annoying as hell, but a lot of your other points sound pretty shaky.

 

[Athen]

Come on cybernetic gaming!

Or perhaps even matrix style gaming...

 

[Wolfrug]

I'm assuming someone has pointed this out about a million times in the preceding, oh, 11 pages, but....

A laptop is a PC. A tablet is also a PC (or a Mac as it were, but still), but I can see how that's seen as very different. But a laptop is just a portable, inferior version of your desktop computer. I don't really see why he mentioned it.

Love the flamebait though, and some good points overall. I think the end point of this is actually: PC gaming isn't dead, EVERY OTHER TYPE IS (since everything is becoming a PC).

 

[Astalano]

If there's anything that's killing PC gaming, it's piracy. Just for giggles I look up Dragon Age 2 on Pirate Bay. 500+ seeders 10,000+ leechers. That's 10,000 people that are getting this game for free and that's only on that one day that I looked. Even if 1/4 of those people would have bought that game if they couldn't get it for free, that's a more money than I feel like calculating that the developer is losing out on. World of Goo creator, 2D Boy, released a statement that they compared their pc sales to the number of people logging onto their World of Goo servers and determined that 95% of the people playing had stolen the game.

95%!

I was tempted to do it myself for Dragon Age 2 since I refuse to give EA a dime of my money. But then I realized I'd be boycotting the company for hurting gaming's future while doing something myself that is hurting gaming's future. That's too much hypocrisy even for a jaded angry twenty something like myself.

Piracy isn't a problem sorry. Not when we have 19% growth to 16.2 billion market worth for PC gaming.

 

[Chatboy 91]

Sorry Bob, normally I agree with you but you're off base on this one.

True, Cloud Computing and Centralized Computing will most likely continue to gain a huge chunk of the mainstream market, however, currently there is no drive for the PC to discarded.

For starters, as you said, you need you PC to render out videos. As a 3D animator, I need a strong computer so I can work. For that reason alone PCs will not be killed any time soon. Centralized computing on the scale to allow the work for "Power Users", is still far too expensive and inefficient to be considered. Cloud Computing, is practically useless to Power Users with the sole exception of data storage.

On the subject of portable PCs, such as tablets and laptops, it is true that they've made major strides in performance of the years. But, for every major performance jump in a portable device, there is a far larger jump for a dedicated device.

The NGP is ridiculously powerful, but the PS3 is 5 years old this year, and still vastly outperforms it.

The PS3 is the most powerful gaming console, but still can't match the performance of a decent dedicated Gaming PC, in all fields, graphics, audio, networking, and game modifications.

A workstation laptop will at most contain a quad-core i7, clocked at 2.0 Ghz, a decent GPU, and 16GB of RAM. A workstation desktop can have two quad-core CPUs, ridiculous amounts of RAM, hard drive space, and the most powerful graphics solution available currently.

Regardless this video reads very much like a futurist fantasy. We still don't know what could be coming next in terms of technology, nor do we have any clue when it will be coming.

As it stands, there is no reason to be heralding the death of PCs. They'll be sticking around for a while yet, and if the PC stays, so will PC gaming.

 

[Don Reba]

I will agree that the PC as a clearly differentiated platform will eventually disappear and that fanatical PC gamers who feel the need to act all high and mighty are annoying as hell.

Oh, isn't that cute?

 

[Slavik_91]

I feel like Bob is having a massive trollface moment while scrolling down the comments here...

 

[drunken_munki]

I just lost all respect I had for Bob.
I don't know what happened (maybe his Windows crashed and he's not smart enough to reinstall it)that made him go on this rant, but this is the most ignorant piece of shit I had the displeasure of hearing in a few years.
Sorry Bob but PC gaming is not going to die, not only that it's doing better and better every year.

I completely and wholeheartedly agree mate.