The Big Picture: Who's Afraid of Captain America?

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hem dazon 90

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RDubayoo said:
Why doesn't it make sense for Captain America to not be a very enthusiastic patriot? Because he's wearing a damn flag on his body, for one. And two, "center-left, progressive" kinds of guys (which usually are just regular left guys masquerading as moderates) tend to think it's hip and cool to thrash your own country. That might also explain why there's so few nationality-based heroes--a lot of countries, especially in Europe, have been taken over by lefty thinking, and when that happens you're liable to be persecuted as a "jingoist" if you promote your own country in any way [http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-americanflagbike11122010,0,3045879.htmlstory]. I have to wonder if even the British people are starting to think that guys like Union Jack and Captain Britain are too patriotic by modern standards.

Patriotism is not the same as jingoism, and it's a sad fact that our supposedly enlightened cultures are failing to understand that.

Maybe It's because we think it is the will of Allah for all countries to unite in a one world government.
 

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solidstatemind said:
PRO-TIP, Bob: there already is a tournament where athletes from different countries can compete on the field of 'battle':

[HEADING=1]IT'S CALLED THE OLYMPICS[/HEADING]
...but is it a [HEADING=1]BLOODSPORT????[/HEADING]
 

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Love ya, Bob, but that was lame. So far your written articles are better than these videos. The ideas are good, but the visual presentation leaves much to be desired. Just all those faces blinking and a few shots of Captain America? Your movie reviews have movie clips and other things, they're visually appealing. This is meh. Still, I'll watch the next few in case they get better, because, like I said, I love ya.
 

Epicurus

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It would be nice if all the world's disputes could be solved with some kind of sport, however war almost needs the loss of life on a grand scale to work properly. It isn't a nice thought, but war carries such a large significance with human beings that it can't easily be replaced by anything less violent and destructive than itself.

As for super heroes from different countries, that would be nice. Captain America, being the embodiment of American Exceptionalism, needs an international counterpart.

A Captain Australia wouldn't really work, though, since a large part of our national identity is a laid back indifference to authority. "Captain, the world needs you!" "Eh? Nah, mate. The cricket's on."

A French super hero/heroine could work, being an embodiment of the French revolutionary spirit. Fighting for the people against tyranny, and all that.
 

MrGalactus

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You know Becks is in Italy, right? He has been for a while now. He's playing for AC Milan.
 

duchaked

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well James Bond is sort of the British superhero so to speak

and well, communist nations/dictatorships have their leaders >:p
 

Redd the Sock

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Cap was going to be a tough character to characterize in the upcoming film without much question. They qare going to piss various levels of "patriots" off no matter what they do, and if it wasn't for the fluke success of Iron Man and the desired Avengers film, I really doubt anyone would have tried.

I never read a lot of Cap, but then, my main comic years were the 90s and those weren't his best. STill, I liked the character: all the pride in America and what it stands for, none of the ego that produced a lot of bile over the last decade. He was the kind of person that would fight for the right of the tea party to protest, then tell them off for how little help and how unpatriotic yelling, hitler moustaches on signs, and plans that were obviously self serving actually are. Hell, just his origin: despite an easy out, he WANTED to do more for his country and for others. Even as a propaganda piece, it's the kind of propaganda piece america could use more of.

Some people it seems missed the point of other country's heroes. Most have some level of heroes, be it myth, general fiction or the majority of shonen manga, but nne seem to be as overtly nationalistic as Captian America. For example, years of anime, manga and live action and the closest I came was Captian Toyko in a parody OAV. I'm not sure why, though I could come up with some non flattering theories around America's need to prove itself for a number of reasons.
 

Death God

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Those are some good points. I wish america would get together with the whole soccer thing though. I'm the only guy in my class who plays soccer or (for that matter) understands how to play it. Sad things indeed.
 

THORMK4

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um have not got time to read all the post but, crocodile Dundee's got two movies cant get more Australian then him
 

AvsJoe

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2 episodes, 2 misses. Too bad Bob can't bring his Game OverThinker series over here.
 

GrizzlerBorno

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Your arguments are hypocritical at best and make no sense at worst.
1)WHY would every county in the world have their own superhero national figure if (as you said) they're not all juvenile and obnoxious like America? Take India for example. The "Indian National Hero" is Mahatma Gandhi. Great guy? yes. Superhero? no. Deserves a movie. Has a bunch'a movies. besides "comic books heroes" is a US culture thing.
2)Not many other countries/cultures can be (or will be) perfectly summed up by ONE Stereotypical Figure that represents that country perfectly, AS PERCEIVED BY IT'S OWN PEOPLE. ooooooohh BURN!!! So much BURN!!!