The Big Picture: Worlds Within Worlds

[Vault Citizen]

Isnt this something that i talked about before in another post? the world withing a world? EVERYTHING is the imagination of a SINGLE person/author? the only difference is that i wanted a hypothetical scenario on how would the fictional people would react to this information if they were real

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.380915-The-voices-of-the-discusion-that-we-never-heard-regarding-Artistic-Integrity?page=

There is only one logical conclusion, Westfall is God.

This raises even further questions! :O

And I bet the answer to those questions is "Westfall works in mysterious ways"

 

[Twilight_guy]

Meh. Its an interesting little poke at continuity buffs but its taken to a silly extent. If you count references as crossovers then it immediately becomes a stupid experiment because the real world is referenced in TV shows all the time, meaning that literally everything, since the real world produces everything that is real, is part of this continuity which in turn is part of the real world since it exists in a TV show in the real world which is part of the continuity and so on. Its a paradox. The set of all sets belongs to itself and also doesn't belong to itself.

 

[Darth_Payn]

Holy shit
the funny thing is I once made a similar chart connecting Video games, Movie, TV, Literature, Comics and several other universe.
It got so massive that it took over ten sheets of printer paper to map it out.

Everything is connected and everything is cannon

I think that's Grant Morrison's philosophy to writing comic books, and maybe Geoff John's.

So... what about that Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode where they insinuated that maybe the entire show was took place inside the head of a girl locked inside a mental institution? That's some Inception sh*t right there ^^

Oh yeah. That was a helluva twist. Maybe Whedon was referencing the Westphall ending?
And yeah, I need some time to process all this. I'll be back.

 

[Vausch]

Now we just need an Infinite Crisis for EVERYTHING.

Surely we'd need to start with Crisis on Infinite Shows. At the very least it'd give TV networks an excuse to do nothing but reboots of old shows. Then we can watch people argue over the internet as to whether or not the pre-crisis Alf was superior to the ludicrous post-crisis retcon, or is the new Fresh Prince's origin story really that fresh?

But don't we need a Zero Hour before Infinite Crisis then a Final Crisis where Walker: Texas Ranger dies followed by a Flashpoint where it turns out the Flash from his 90s TV show goes back and breaks the snowglobe by accident thus releasing all of the kid's memories into reality as their own universes are born?

*twitches*

 

[Vausch]

Holy shit
the funny thing is I once made a similar chart connecting Video games, Movie, TV, Literature, Comics and several other universe.
It got so massive that it took over ten sheets of printer paper to map it out.

Everything is connected and everything is cannon

I think that's Grant Morrison's philosophy to writing comic books, and maybe Geoff John's.

Morrison's maybe. Geoff Johns' philosophy is "I'mma take that plot hole or discontinuity and make it into the most epic story ever to explain it!"

 

[siddif]

One major flaw, I could imagine my own world and have it interact with other real franchises but most would call it fan fiction and not cannon?

 

[Darth_Payn]

That would also mean south park does not exist since Bart Simpson did a cameo on the show, along with Family Guy, American Dad, The Cleveland Show and Futurama

Then Riddle me this: aren't Futurama and The Simpsons considered fictional shows within each show's respective universe?
Also, when did Family Guy and its spin-offs have an offical crossover with the Simpsons?

 

[The Grim Ace]

Usually, when someone says they'll blow my mind, it doesn't even faze me, then you mentioned Eerie Indiana and I literally went back in my chair. What the hell, universe.

 

[Pinkamena]

Interesting.
What would happen if a real person is discovered to be a part of that kids imagination? Would that mean we are all not actually real?

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

I'll just be over here, rubbing my brain in confusion. QUICK HAND ME AN FPS!

 

[SadakoMoose]

Wanna waste hours on the internet?
Combine the Tommy Westphall Universe theory with the Wold Newton Theory...
Yeah...
Try charting THAT one...
http://www.oocities.org/cricharddavies/wold.html

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

There is only one logical conclusion, Westfall is God.

This raises even further questions! :O

Sorry, you made me think of this and I had to post it.

 

[Shjade]

Most fun I've had with TV/movie connections since Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon.

Actually, my first thought after watching this episode was, "If Kevin Bacon showed up in anything that can be linked back to St. Elsewhere, then everything that has ever existed is in Westphall's head."

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

I.... Err...... Uhm..... Well....

[image/]http://blog.ancientlasers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Mind-Blown.jpg[/IMG]

That was awesome..... I take it that it was good for you too Bob?

 

[frizzlebyte]

As entertaining as it is, the connections get a little... flawed... after a while.

I mean, you might as well say that St. Elsewhere takes place in Boston, therefore any show, book, or media that includes Boston is part of Tommy Westphall's imagination.

In fact, since Boston exists in our world, I assume that anything that takes place in our world or references it is part of Tommy Westphall's imagination. Two degrees of seperation for every piece of media based around Earth, problem solved.

Here's a creepy thought: The Mythbusters did a cameo on an episode of CSI. Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman are real people. Ergo, we are also imaginary.

Simple. Tommy Westphall is God.

Anyway, yeah, I heard about this several years ago. I hate shows that end with it all being a dream and whatever, so thinking about all of tv being just one big metaverse inside an autistic kid's head was a little too much. And it still is.

 

[DioWallachia]

And I bet the answer to those questions is "Westfall works in mysterious ways"

FOOLISH MORTAL!! HOW DARE YOU TO EVEN THINK THAT THE KID COULD EVEN BE GREATER THAN THE GREAT OLD ONE, RAPTOR JESUS!!!!!

 

[ConanThe3rd]

Hum, which clip of futurama to best illustrate the massive headache I now have as a result of this?

Ah yes, this will do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81pyiIUX2s

 

[azazel_buddha]

mind = blown

great episode

 

[aattss]

Chuck Norris....

Wow! btw stop taking this too litreally. It's awesome.