The Big Picture: Worlds Within Worlds
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Family Guy was featured in the episode of South Park Cartoon Wars along with the Simpsons, meaning that if Simpsons did not exist neither did South Park and Family Guy
mind sadly not blown. if you were to look at the original article, it's actually degrees of separation not continuity. All those shows you mentioned would not take place in his mind but rather by like a fan fick.
So, the more interesting question would actually be: What ISN'T part of Tommy Westphall's conjured multi-slash-metaverse? This kind of exercise could technically go on forever, seeing as even citing an integrated show or other cultural product in passing makes you part of that construct.
McDuffie's point stands. People just need to chill over continuities and reboots. These are things that aren't motivated by a love of the medium, they're motivated by cold, hard cash and audience or readership numbers. Marvel and DC will keep piling up Infinite Crises and 52s for as long as they please, until they hit the *one* setup that basically prints money.
Then fast-forward sixty years or so if they're still around by that point, and they realize they've made another tangled clusterfuck out of their respective universes and, well, BOOM. Universe Reset. Again.
As for intertextuality in-between universes, that's not too surprising, usually. Entities like Yoyodyne, Wolfram & Hart or Weyland-Yutani are usually cited as quick, meaningless nods from one show's creator to another.
A games-related example would be id Software and their constant mention of the Mixom and Moxim corporations. They've been cited in virtually every id game ever. Going by the Tommy Westphall theory, this means everything put out by John Carmack's team is part of the same continuity, and everything that's ever shot off from the Doom and Quake standards of the nineties would also count. So on top of Commander Keen and Duke Nukem 3D, you'd have to add Hexen, Heretic *and* from there, shift over to literature because Hexen references Lewis Carrol's Vorpal blade, which is canonically used to kill the Jabberwock...
Then you have to repeat the entire procedure starting from Carrol and the Jabberwock, and we started with id and its fictitious companies!
So... Yeah. That's pretty much an exercise in futility.
McDuffie's point stands. People just need to chill over continuities and reboots. These are things that aren't motivated by a love of the medium, they're motivated by cold, hard cash and audience or readership numbers. Marvel and DC will keep piling up Infinite Crises and 52s for as long as they please, until they hit the *one* setup that basically prints money.
Then fast-forward sixty years or so if they're still around by that point, and they realize they've made another tangled clusterfuck out of their respective universes and, well, BOOM. Universe Reset. Again.
As for intertextuality in-between universes, that's not too surprising, usually. Entities like Yoyodyne, Wolfram & Hart or Weyland-Yutani are usually cited as quick, meaningless nods from one show's creator to another.
A games-related example would be id Software and their constant mention of the Mixom and Moxim corporations. They've been cited in virtually every id game ever. Going by the Tommy Westphall theory, this means everything put out by John Carmack's team is part of the same continuity, and everything that's ever shot off from the Doom and Quake standards of the nineties would also count. So on top of Commander Keen and Duke Nukem 3D, you'd have to add Hexen, Heretic *and* from there, shift over to literature because Hexen references Lewis Carrol's Vorpal blade, which is canonically used to kill the Jabberwock...
Then you have to repeat the entire procedure starting from Carrol and the Jabberwock, and we started with id and its fictitious companies!
So... Yeah. That's pretty much an exercise in futility.
several things (the aa turret at the begining comes to mind) in firefly are manufactured by Wayland yutani.Monty McDougal said:
There is no evidence of this. They may have gone into film at the end of their illustrious space/detective careers. They certainly bear the same face, based on the origin of their names.GamemasterAnthony said:
Anyway, if they can include oblique references to Yoyodyne, I don't think I've made the farthest stretch of anyone to get to this point.
Or you know Tommy just watched a bit of TV and added the characters into his imaginary world.
As for the world within worlds thing,it bugs me especially in the case of X men. Mutants live in a world with Captain America and the Fantastic Four well know and celebrated heroes, hell most non mutant heroes are loved in the Marvel-verse, so how is it that only mutants get this special hate treatment and why do non of them just lie about there origin and say they fell in toxic waste.
As for the world within worlds thing,it bugs me especially in the case of X men. Mutants live in a world with Captain America and the Fantastic Four well know and celebrated heroes, hell most non mutant heroes are loved in the Marvel-verse, so how is it that only mutants get this special hate treatment and why do non of them just lie about there origin and say they fell in toxic waste.
There was a flash brighter than the sun as my mind burned out of existence when you said Doctor Who was imagined by an autistic kid in the 80's.
I think you should have explained the connection to comic books alittle more. How they want to be in the same ironed out timeline.
Here's some more for ya. The time lords in Doctor Who come from the planet Gallifrey. Gallifrey is shown to exist in the Power Rangers universe. The Power Rangers crossed over with the Ninja Turtles. TMNT crossed over with Archie. Archie met the Punisher thus bringing in the Marvelverse. In that same issue "Archie meets the Punisher" Sabrina the teenage Witch and Josie and the Pussycats also make an appearance.
Well if Fringe, Star Trek, DC and Marvel are all part of this in some way, that mean that kid was able to create not just one, but many universes! Did he also imagined himself? Did he also imagine us talking on The Escapist about him? Is Moviebob real? Are we real? Oh, please... Is The Escapist forum real?
