The Big Picture: Worlds Within Worlds
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Equestria maybe. Since Marvel is part of that mess, there's a connection to Capcom, and Capcom is connected to the Hasbro properties since during the G1 era of G.I.Joe they recruited the Street Fighters. I'm not joking! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRzVPUHiqvc]MB202 said:
Actually...since we're trying to be as silly as possible with this, let me add some fuel to the fire using Dr. Who...
In the game Minecraft, according to one gameplay video I saw, the Endermen have a tendancy to stand still while you look at them, but will move and attack when you look away. Sounds similar to a certain group of "angels" right?
In Dragon Quest 9, one of the Grotto dungeons may have the boss known as the Trauminator. According to the strat guide, the data on it says it has been around since the dawn of time. But note the way it speaks...
"Bzzzt... Dzzz... Must-trauminate...
All-extraneous-life-forms-must-be-
exterminated... Processing...
Mortals...extraneous...
Celestria...extraneous...
Celestrians...extraneous...
Bzzzt... Extraneous-life-form-detected...
Trauminator... TRAU-MIN-ATE!"
If that isn't a Dalek, I don't know what is.
Finally, in Pokémon Black and Pokémon White, we have the guy running the Poké Transfer Lab. Several Pokémon he helps transfer over from previous games usually come tagged with the line "Apparently arrived...after a long travel through time". But...that's not all. Before the transfer process begins, he excitedly says "Allons-y!" That...really gave me a Timelordish vibe, if you get my meaning.
I prefer the explanation of "Hollywood can't create original content to save it's life" answer to this.
So not going to lie, but I thought he would talk about the colorado shooting. Or at least something to do with fans, craziness, and/or tragedy at movie/book/videogame/etc premiers.
EDIT: oh and bob forgot about the simpsons and all of Seth Macfarlene's shows (except maybe american dad) connection.
EDIT: oh and bob forgot about the simpsons and all of Seth Macfarlene's shows (except maybe american dad) connection.
Ready for one last mind-blow my friend? Seeing as how some of these series do sometimes contain real life events or places, that means...Real life is possibly a product of this kids imagination.Daystar Clarion said:My mind!
[HEADING=1]It's been blown![/HEADING]
Some people have too much time on their hands
Which means, we're all fictitious characters. I'm...not as surprised by this as i should be, although i am disappointed i didn't turn out as a supernatural entity.
And which likely means that the whole 2012 thing isn't the end of the world but rather one giant continuity reboot of EVERYTHING. I just hope i get superpowers and can become a proper badass this time around.
Brian Weatherson professor of philosophy at Cornell University in "Six Objections to the Westphall Hypothesis" comes up with good counters to the whole Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis.
The "De Re Dreams" and "De Re Fictions" counters point out that people in the real world in their real life roles make appearances in some of these shows (Michael Bloomberg as Mayor of New York in "Law and Order is the example given)
DC's old Pre-Crisis multiverse had this in spades. The adventures of Earth-2 heroes (1938-c1948) were "seen" by varies writers and published on Earth-1. The same was true of Earth-prime (a close copy of our Earth) with regards to the heroes of Earth-1, 2, S, X, etc.
The DC multiverse came about *because* of continuity and aside for the JSA-JLA crossover most of the Earths didn't interact. Some earths (Earth-B and Earth-E/154) were editorial creations to explain discontinuities
The "De Re Dreams" and "De Re Fictions" counters point out that people in the real world in their real life roles make appearances in some of these shows (Michael Bloomberg as Mayor of New York in "Law and Order is the example given)
DC's old Pre-Crisis multiverse had this in spades. The adventures of Earth-2 heroes (1938-c1948) were "seen" by varies writers and published on Earth-1. The same was true of Earth-prime (a close copy of our Earth) with regards to the heroes of Earth-1, 2, S, X, etc.
The DC multiverse came about *because* of continuity and aside for the JSA-JLA crossover most of the Earths didn't interact. Some earths (Earth-B and Earth-E/154) were editorial creations to explain discontinuities
The "rigidity" of comic continuity only became an issue in DC comics after Crisis on Infinite Earths happened. The multiverse had been release valve for stories that couldn't fit into continuity with "Earth-B" and "Earth-E" being favorite dumping grounds for fans for all the weird "what were the writers/editors on with that?" stories.mrblakemiller said:
Trying to shove everything DC had onto *one* earth with *one* timeline was a formula for disaster. Even more so as not all the books rebooted at the same time.
In fact DC effectively shoved the fact the Legion of Superheroes hadn't rebooted in everyone's face with the Comic Boy series (December, 1986) not even a year after the final issue of Crisis (March 1986). Then DC tried to explain the mess they made with the Pocket Universe saga (August, 1987) killing the whole one earth one timeline idea.
DC kept trying to revive the idea but Dan DiDio has stated ?after further review, there have been no Crisis events in the New DCU" so we are back to the old Pre-Crisis status quo of shove any story that doesn't make a lick of sense continuitywise on to another earth. This also means no Crisis, no Zero Hour, no Infinite Crisis, etc with the DCMU alive and well.
I think it just calls for some deep breaths and some rational thought from the comic fans.
If a Superman spin off shows him with a more modern haircut, it doesn't destroy everything that came before.
If however, halfway thru a story arc, he's injected with liquid kryptonite, and it does nothing, then I'd have a problem, as it's screwing with his only weakness, (apart from him giving a damn about us puny humans, of course, that really does keep getting in the way for him )
If a Superman spin off shows him with a more modern haircut, it doesn't destroy everything that came before.
If however, halfway thru a story arc, he's injected with liquid kryptonite, and it does nothing, then I'd have a problem, as it's screwing with his only weakness, (apart from him giving a damn about us puny humans, of course, that really does keep getting in the way for him
)
The problem with the Tommy Westphall theory is that it falls apart when one takes into consideration that Tommy incorporated his father, a real person, into his personal universe. Ergo, it is possible and indeed extremely likely that Tommy thus incorporated other aspects he took in from various sensory input and also incorporated it into the St. Elsewhere narrative in his head. It's an interesting thought, but it falls apart when you consider everything in Tommy's head may have had an outside stimulus of some sort(the hospital itself being inspired by the snowglobe image for example) thus everything does exist...just not in the way that perhaps we perceived in within the context of that show. That's just my 2. (And if this was repetitive of someone else's response, I do apologize.)
Of course all of this could easily be moot since there's no definitive proof saying whatever shows crossed over with this show didn't exist outside Tommy's head. After all, not even autistic children live in a cultural vacuum. It could just be that, in his imaginings, Tommy included some TV characters he knew about. It could be that all these shows exist in his head, or it could be that this particular show was just his fanfiction.
And we all know how easily fanfic writers gravitate towards crossovers that don't make sense in context. But far be it from me to spoil anyone's fun.
And we all know how easily fanfic writers gravitate towards crossovers that don't make sense in context. But far be it from me to spoil anyone's fun.
Fun thought, but while I can *almost* believe the connections via celebrities, I certainly couldn't believe the connections via corporations. I'm skeptical that there has never been two corporations with the same name, and that takes a rather large chunk out of the whole "Tommy Westphall, god of television" web theory. Have no two films ever named a macguffin the same thing? It does not mean that those two are the same object.
