The Boycott of the Movie "The Grey".

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C2Ultima

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So, there's a boycott of the new movie "The Grey", due to its treatment of wolves.

Firstly, boycotters took umbrage with the movie having wolves being "misrepresented" as being ferocious, and attacking people without provocation, when they are actually quite passive. What really set off the movement is that the filmmakers apparently hired a trapper to catch four wolves, two to be used as props and two others to be eaten by the cast (to raise the immersion).

I can see where they're coming from. If wolves rarely attack people, then it's quite unfair for them to be killed and used for profit. Still, I don't think that the movie is specifically trying to say all wolves as aggressive beasts, just the specific group that attack the characters in the movie.

What are your thoughts on the subject?


Sources:
http://www.wildearthguardians.org/site/MessageViewer?em_id=6883.0

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Method+motivates+Liam+Neeson+Grey+cast+dine+wolf+meat/6021303/story.html#ixzz1k1zVApLf
 

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C2Ultima said:
So, there's a boycott of the new movie "The Grey", due to its treatment of wolves.

Firstly, boycotters took umbrage with the movie having wolves being "misrepresented" as being ferocious, and attacking people without provocation, when they are actually quite passive. What really set off the movement is that the filmmakers apparently hired a trapper to catch four wolves, two to be used as props and two others to be eaten by the cast (to raise the immersion).

I can see where they're coming from. If wolves rarely attack people, then it's quite unfair for them to be killed and used for profit. Still, I don't think that the movie is specifically trying to say all wolves as aggressive beasts, just the specific group that attack the characters in the movie.

What are your thoughts on the subject?


Sources:
http://www.wildearthguardians.org/site/MessageViewer?em_id=6883.0

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Method+motivates+Liam+Neeson+Grey+cast+dine+wolf+meat/6021303/story.html#ixzz1k1zVApLf
My thoughts? I've hunted dear before. They almost never attack humans. And yet I don't see a problem with that (Though that could be because the blasted things have overrun the damn place).

Also, Eastern Wolves, a subspecies of gray wolves, are LC on the endangered species list. Unless it's another species of wolf that's in trouble, I don't see much a problem.

Furthermore, read this

Director Joe Carnahan admits that he fears wild animals. Instead of educating himself, he vilifies wolves as relentlessly evil, further feeding the frenzy created by some who want to wipe wolves off the planet.
Hyperbole much? I fear fishooks. The blasted things terrify me. Yet I don't want to wipe them off the planet. That'd just be silly.
 

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My thoughts: "Lol."

It's a Liam Neeson action flick. These people are probably putting more thought into the film than the filmmakers did!

Almost as funny as the people who protested Orphan.
 

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Marter said:
My thoughts: "Lol."

It's a Liam Neeson action flick. These people are probably putting more thought into the film than the filmmakers did!

Almost as funny as the people who protested Orphan.
I felt the same way until I read where it said "the filmmakers apparently hired a trapper to catch four wolves, two to be used as props and two others to be eaten by the cast (to raise the immersion)."
 

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Volf99 said:
Marter said:
My thoughts: "Lol."

It's a Liam Neeson action flick. These people are probably putting more thought into the film than the filmmakers did!

Almost as funny as the people who protested Orphan.
I felt the same way until I read where it said "the filmmakers apparently hired a trapper to catch four wolves, two to be used as props and two others to be eaten by the cast (to raise the immersion)."
I have a VERY hard time believing that claim, for obvious reasons. Hollywood is usually extremely careful with animal treatment these days because of people like this. Killing two wolves for a movie seems just plain unlikely. Especially when you use the word "apparently" at the start of the sentence. Proof?

According to Liam Neeson when he was on The Daily Show, they used mostly animatronics and live wolves, with very little CGI. So I don't doubt wolves were used, just that they were... eaten. Also, I did not know Neeson was Irish until that interview.

Also also, wolves have attacked people many times in the past, usually due to hunger. It's not a film about "WOLVES ARE EEEEEEEVILLLL" it's a film about survival.

Also also also, even if they DID eat some wolf (which I still highly doubt), as long as it's legal, who cares? Anyone who eats meat has no right to complain about this. Eating a wolf (legally) is no different from eating a cow, a chicken, or a dog (in Korea).
 
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I think there needs more information posted here from more neutral sites.

I seriously doubt Hollywood would let that slide, but mistakes do get made.
 

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Jack the Potato said:
Volf99 said:
Marter said:
My thoughts: "Lol."

It's a Liam Neeson action flick. These people are probably putting more thought into the film than the filmmakers did!

Almost as funny as the people who protested Orphan.
I felt the same way until I read where it said "the filmmakers apparently hired a trapper to catch four wolves, two to be used as props and two others to be eaten by the cast (to raise the immersion)."
I have a VERY hard time believing that claim, for obvious reasons. Hollywood is usually extremely careful with animal treatment these days because of people like this. Killing two wolves for a movie seems just plain unlikely. Especially when you use the word "apparently" at the start of the sentence. Proof?

According to Liam Neeson when he was on The Daily Show, they used mostly animatronics and live wolves, with very little CGI. So I don't doubt wolves were used, just that they were... eaten. Also, I did not know Neeson was Irish until that interview.

Also also, wolves have attacked people many times in the past, usually due to hunger. It's not a film about "WOLVES ARE EEEEEEEVILLLL" it's a film about survival.

Also also also, even if they DID eat some wolf (which I still highly doubt), as long as it's legal, who cares? Anyone who eats meat has no right to complain about this. Eating a wolf (legally) is no different from eating a cow, a chicken, or a dog (in Korea).
I'm just stating that I stopped finding it funny when I read that part.

It doesn't matter if the film is about wolves are evil or not because it might cause misconceptions just like how Jaws did for sharks.
 
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Volf99 said:
Jack the Potato said:
Volf99 said:
Marter said:
My thoughts: "Lol."

It's a Liam Neeson action flick. These people are probably putting more thought into the film than the filmmakers did!

Almost as funny as the people who protested Orphan.
I felt the same way until I read where it said "the filmmakers apparently hired a trapper to catch four wolves, two to be used as props and two others to be eaten by the cast (to raise the immersion)."
I have a VERY hard time believing that claim, for obvious reasons. Hollywood is usually extremely careful with animal treatment these days because of people like this. Killing two wolves for a movie seems just plain unlikely. Especially when you use the word "apparently" at the start of the sentence. Proof?

According to Liam Neeson when he was on The Daily Show, they used mostly animatronics and live wolves, with very little CGI. So I don't doubt wolves were used, just that they were... eaten. Also, I did not know Neeson was Irish until that interview.

Also also, wolves have attacked people many times in the past, usually due to hunger. It's not a film about "WOLVES ARE EEEEEEEVILLLL" it's a film about survival.

Also also also, even if they DID eat some wolf (which I still highly doubt), as long as it's legal, who cares? Anyone who eats meat has no right to complain about this. Eating a wolf (legally) is no different from eating a cow, a chicken, or a dog (in Korea).
I'm just stating that I stopped finding it funny when I read that part.

It doesn't matter if the film is about wolves are evil or not because it might cause misconceptions just like how Jaws did for sharks.
Under this logic, we should ban/boycott The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo for the misconceptions it might apply to certain subcultures.
 

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I don't see anyone boycotting shark and piranha films, why is that? Anyway, if they do really care about the misconception of wolves perhaps they should make a documentary or write a book on it. I watched a film on the misconception of sharks and I'm sure it raised awareness.
 
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Nouw said:
I don't see anyone boycotting shark and piranha films, why is that? Anyway, if they do really care about the misconception of wolves perhaps they should make a documentary or write a book on it. I watched a film on the misconception of sharks and I'm sure it raised awareness.
For the same reason no one makes a fuss about the misconceptions of other "less cuddly" animals. Films certainly aren't boycotted for giving Bats and Spiders a bad image.
 

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Or I don't go see it because it looks like a load of wank. Seriously, I don't care what they did in the course of filming it, they could have been regularly having sex with the wolves I I couldn't care less. I'm not going to see it because I'm not that into survival films, and watching Liam Neeson having a punch up with a wolf isn't my idea of an enjoyable movie going experience.
 

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The Preened Mr. Fust said:
Nouw said:
I don't see anyone boycotting shark and piranha films, why is that? Anyway, if they do really care about the misconception of wolves perhaps they should make a documentary or write a book on it. I watched a film on the misconception of sharks and I'm sure it raised awareness.
For the same reason no one makes a fuss about the misconceptions of other "less cuddly" animals. Films certainly aren't boycotted for giving Bats and Spiders a bad image.
I find that rather saddening. Just like how the cutest animals are given the most attention if they are in danger of being extinct. I do admit that I have a phobia of sharks though. Emphasis on irrational fear.
 
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Nouw said:
The Preened Mr. Fust said:
Nouw said:
I don't see anyone boycotting shark and piranha films, why is that? Anyway, if they do really care about the misconception of wolves perhaps they should make a documentary or write a book on it. I watched a film on the misconception of sharks and I'm sure it raised awareness.
For the same reason no one makes a fuss about the misconceptions of other "less cuddly" animals. Films certainly aren't boycotted for giving Bats and Spiders a bad image.
I find that rather saddening. Just like how the cutest animals are given the most attention if they are in danger of being extinct. I do admit that I have a phobia of sharks though. Emphasis on irrational fear.
Movies made by and for the numbers, I'm afraid.

On an off-topic but related note, I'm afraid of sharks too but that is more because I've been bitten by one!

Best thing to do is to educate when you can.
 

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The Preened Mr. Fust said:
Nouw said:
The Preened Mr. Fust said:
Nouw said:
I don't see anyone boycotting shark and piranha films, why is that? Anyway, if they do really care about the misconception of wolves perhaps they should make a documentary or write a book on it. I watched a film on the misconception of sharks and I'm sure it raised awareness.
For the same reason no one makes a fuss about the misconceptions of other "less cuddly" animals. Films certainly aren't boycotted for giving Bats and Spiders a bad image.
I find that rather saddening. Just like how the cutest animals are given the most attention if they are in danger of being extinct. I do admit that I have a phobia of sharks though. Emphasis on irrational fear.
Movies made by and for the numbers, I'm afraid.

On an off-topic but related note, I'm afraid of sharks too but that is more because I've been bitten by one!

Best thing to do is to educate when you can.
May I ask how that happened o_O? If I was bitten by a shark, I'd probably never go into the water again. Once again, completely irrational. And I live in NZ too!
 

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Nouw said:
The Preened Mr. Fust said:
Nouw said:
The Preened Mr. Fust said:
Nouw said:
I don't see anyone boycotting shark and piranha films, why is that? Anyway, if they do really care about the misconception of wolves perhaps they should make a documentary or write a book on it. I watched a film on the misconception of sharks and I'm sure it raised awareness.
For the same reason no one makes a fuss about the misconceptions of other "less cuddly" animals. Films certainly aren't boycotted for giving Bats and Spiders a bad image.
I find that rather saddening. Just like how the cutest animals are given the most attention if they are in danger of being extinct. I do admit that I have a phobia of sharks though. Emphasis on irrational fear.
Movies made by and for the numbers, I'm afraid.

On an off-topic but related note, I'm afraid of sharks too but that is more because I've been bitten by one!

Best thing to do is to educate when you can.
May I ask how that happened o_O? If I was bitten by a shark, I'd probably never go into the water again. Once again, completely irrational. And I live in NZ too!
Well I guess nobody told you about the New Zealand land shark, but it doesn't matter anymore because there's one RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!!
 
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Nouw said:
The Preened Mr. Fust said:
Nouw said:
The Preened Mr. Fust said:
Nouw said:
I don't see anyone boycotting shark and piranha films, why is that? Anyway, if they do really care about the misconception of wolves perhaps they should make a documentary or write a book on it. I watched a film on the misconception of sharks and I'm sure it raised awareness.
For the same reason no one makes a fuss about the misconceptions of other "less cuddly" animals. Films certainly aren't boycotted for giving Bats and Spiders a bad image.
I find that rather saddening. Just like how the cutest animals are given the most attention if they are in danger of being extinct. I do admit that I have a phobia of sharks though. Emphasis on irrational fear.
Movies made by and for the numbers, I'm afraid.

On an off-topic but related note, I'm afraid of sharks too but that is more because I've been bitten by one!

Best thing to do is to educate when you can.
May I ask how that happened o_O? If I was bitten by a shark, I'd probably never go into the water again. Once again, completely irrational. And I live in NZ too!
While paying very little attention on a day in the deeper water of the beach, I managed to crash into something that didn't quite appreciate it. Fortunately it seemed intent on getting away as it released as quick as it bit. While it certainly wasn't the Shark's fault, it wasn't entirely mine either. Brackish water has a nasty way of concealing things, except rows of red upon one's leg!
 

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My thoughts? I've hunted dear before. They almost never attack humans. And yet I don't see a problem with that (Though that could be because the blasted things have overrun the damn place).

Also, Eastern Wolves, a subspecies of gray wolves, are LC on the endangered species list. Unless it's another species of wolf that's in trouble, I don't see much a problem.
This. Can't speak for the OP (might be vegetarian or vegan for all I know), animals are hunted all the time, even "cute" and "adorable" ones like rabbits. If you think about it what we do to cattle or any domesticated livestock that we eat is so much worse.
 

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Volf99 said:
Marter said:
My thoughts: "Lol."

It's a Liam Neeson action flick. These people are probably putting more thought into the film than the filmmakers did!

Almost as funny as the people who protested Orphan.
I felt the same way until I read where it said "the filmmakers apparently hired a trapper to catch four wolves, two to be used as props and two others to be eaten by the cast (to raise the immersion)."
That seems like a rather dubious claim to me. Is there proof of this?

But, even if it is true, I can say that I approve of this sort of old-school method acting. We're predators, and there's nothing wrong with killing wolves for food (as long as they aren't endangered).
 

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While I do dismiss the boycott (since when does a film ever portray reality?) but I can sort of see why they are pissed about killing the two wolves (assuming if the four were a pack, the other two used as props must be distress in some way).