The censorship of the Elin in Tera has become ridiculous at this point.

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PetitDemon

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In a way, it was to begin with. Giving one region a different version of the game. It was like Hirada with Tekken, "this is what you Westerners like" kind of move. Nobody was going to take them to court over a few lolis in those outfits. And the decision didn't bring many customers to the game, I'm sure.

The Fate of Arun is here, and the "censorship" is still left intact. Depending on your definition of the word censorship. It was poor choice, especially considering what they're doing now.

Not that it's great. The whole "bikini armor" thing, for any race. But their reasons seem ridiculous and hypocritical now. Because all of these costumes they've been giving to races like the Elin are much more skimpy than the armors that were censored. In multiple costumes

Aside from being glitchy, the boyshorts really aren't that good. They weren't as well designed as the original armors.

And they even still claim that putting the original costumes back in, is a bannable offense. To me, that's ridiculous. And it would take them literally no time to put the old ones back in, or give players a slider. It's almost as if their current business strategy is to hide skimpy outfits behind a paywall.

This topic isn't to say that Tera needs a bunch of scantily clad lolis. Or a scantitly clad anyone. But En Masse and Bluefrog seem really hypocritical at this point to have censored them then, only to sell players practically naked Elin armors for like $10.

Did they not know when they localized it, that Bluehole Studio was going to make a bunch of practically naked Elin costumes? Their idea is bizarre and inconsistent at this point. They really should have kept up the censorship, or dropped it altogether.

What motivation do En Masse and others have to do this now? Has this become a pay-to-porn game?

On the positive side, the new content is pretty good. Though I don't know how Tera will be able to keep up in an evolving MMORPG industry. Black Desert is a better game in almost every way than Tera. And Scarlet Blade has it beat in the "pornygame" appeal.

I wouldn't recommend against not trying Fate of Arun, though. It's not bad.
 

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Maybe so. Words evolve, really.

More like self-censorship.
It's been commonly called "censorship". So I'm parroting other people's usage of the term.
 

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What reason did they give? As I'm sure that the more 'sexy' costumes for the loli's break the law in some western countries.
 

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Just popped in to see if this is continuing the trend of gamers misusing the word censorship to refer to trivial decisions made by a company regarding their own product. Yep, everything's in order here. Carry on.

Paywalls are a pretty annoying practice though, especially for an mmo that (presumably?) already has a subscription model.
 

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Technically speaking these are not lolis as you put it, they're just a small race of creatures. That's like saying hobbits are loli, because they are small creatures therefore they must be children.

Not sure why the developers decided to censor the race outfits, they should stop listening to SJWs who probably had no plans to play it anyway.
 

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For the record, the 'censorship' here is actual censorship. As in censorship of risque material. An in game race modeled after little/young girls had its costume options limited in the western versions, to avoid problems.

The issue this topic brings up, is that over time, premium alternate armours have been introduced which are comparable if not worse than the original armours. Which creates a situation where it calls for the question 'why did the bother initially'.

So yes, this is actual censorship, not just poorly used or worded silliness. A female character has more clothing than her counterparts, based on western attitudes towards sexuality and sexualization of young girls bodies.
 

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Elijin said:
For the record, the 'censorship' here is actual censorship. As in censorship of risque material. An in game race modeled after little/young girls had its costume options limited in the western versions, to avoid problems.

The issue this topic brings up, is that over time, premium alternate armours have been introduced which are comparable if not worse than the original armours. Which creates a situation where it calls for the question 'why did the bother initially'.

So yes, this is actual censorship, not just poorly used or worded silliness. A female character has more clothing than her counterparts, based on western attitudes towards sexuality and sexualization of young girls bodies.
Wrong.
Unless you have proof of an outside legal force refusing to allow them to launch (such as a governing body or court of law) then this is self-censorship by definition.

On topic: Meh, couldn't really care less since they aren't the ones getting the arcane engineer class....currently.
 

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Actually its a case of a private organisation engaging in censorship.

The fact they're the owners of the content they're censoring, doesnt magically stop it from being censorship.

If you're going to be silly about what 'censorship' is defined as, you should probably at least get it right.
 

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CommanderZx2 said:
Technically speaking these are not lolis as you put it, they're just a small race of creatures.
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120501082555/t__/tera/images/4/4a/Elintrans.png No that's a loli.
 

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Cazboab said:
CommanderZx2 said:
Technically speaking these are not lolis as you put it, they're just a small race of creatures.
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120501082555/t__/tera/images/4/4a/Elintrans.png No that's a loli.
Nice try, but deliberately leaving out the rest of my post in your quote, does not make your reply true.
 

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What is it with the lolicons still trying to make this thing happen? Enjoy the game and send them a petition if you want to play that way or join East Asian servers, otherwise the horse is still dead on this topic.
 

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So basically your complaint is that you're not getting your recommended daily dose of pseudo-jailbait?

Is this a thing?
 

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CommanderZx2 said:
Cazboab said:
CommanderZx2 said:
Technically speaking these are not lolis as you put it, they're just a small race of creatures.
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120501082555/t__/tera/images/4/4a/Elintrans.png No that's a loli.
Nice try, but deliberately leaving out the rest of my post in your quote, does not make your reply true.
Okay fair point:
CommanderZx2 said:
That's like saying hobbits are loli, because they are small creatures therefore they must be children.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141203075836/creepypasta/images/3/3c/Movie-the-hobbit_002130021.jpeg Not a loli.

The Elim are *all* styled after adolescent females, hobbits have males, and and display a variety of ages and developmental stages, as such the Elim as a race can be considered lolis were hobbits cannot, individual hobbits, were they depicted as sexualised adolescents could be considered lolis, but they are not a race of lolis.

CommanderZx2 said:
Not sure why the developers decided to censor the race outfits, they should stop listening to SJWs who probably had no plans to play it anyway.
the developers likely censored it in the west due to bills that were being passed in various European parliaments that would criminalise the sexualised depiction of minors in artificially created forms (e.g. drawings, animation and videogames)- its just easier for them to cover up the thongs on the lolis in the west than risk criminal proceedings.
 

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Cazboab said:
CommanderZx2 said:
Not sure why the developers decided to censor the race outfits, they should stop listening to SJWs who probably had no plans to play it anyway.
the developers likely censored it in the west due to bills that were being passed in various European parliaments that would criminalise the sexualised depiction of minors in artificially created forms (e.g. drawings, animation and videogames)- its just easier for them to cover up the thongs on the lolis in the west than risk criminal proceedings.
If what I learned from Google is to be believed, I think the problem might be the sheer inconsistency of it. The outfit edits supposedly only apply to player controlled Elin and not NPCs, and paywall outfits are apparently not altered at all.
 

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Despite this tread devolving into everyone bitching about the definition of a word, I do think the OP has a pretty fair point.

I play TERA and honestly, the Elin costumes you can buy are way more revealing than the default Korean armors (which you can patch if you're really adamant about it). In that respect I agree with OP. Why did they bother changing the armors in the first place just to release different Elin swimsuits every summer? I remember several articles complaining about the Elin upon the game's release around the web. Was it pressure from the gaming press?

I guess no one cares about the game now so they can do whatever they want.
 

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Elijin said:
Actually its a case of a private organisation engaging in censorship.

The fact they're the owners of the content they're censoring, doesnt magically stop it from being censorship.

If you're going to be silly about what 'censorship' is defined as, you should probably at least get it right.
So every time I'm writing, I have an idea, I put it down, I look at it then I go "WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!" change it because I think it was a horrible idea, that's censorship?

If so, writers and authors censor themselves...daily.
 

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Asita said:
Cazboab said:
CommanderZx2 said:
Not sure why the developers decided to censor the race outfits, they should stop listening to SJWs who probably had no plans to play it anyway.
the developers likely censored it in the west due to bills that were being passed in various European parliaments that would criminalise the sexualised depiction of minors in artificially created forms (e.g. drawings, animation and videogames)- its just easier for them to cover up the thongs on the lolis in the west than risk criminal proceedings.
If what I learned from Google is to be believed, I think the problem might be the sheer inconsistency of it. The outfit edits supposedly only apply to player controlled Elin and not NPCs, and paywall outfits are apparently not altered at all.
Regardless if they're lolis or not, if true, that's just bloody stupid and/or a cynical cash grab. I mean in theory the situation could have changed where the devs thought it was okay to put that content in again, but then regardless of whether it is okay or not, having it behind a paywall is just a bit mercenary, and in the end it looks like to me like they're saying "we know a lot of folk don't like this, but if you do, and you give us enough money you can look at loli panties"
 

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I had the over under for the first appearance of "SJW" in this thread at "3", and was disappointed to see it take as long as 7. Come on guys, get on point.

So if I understand correctly, someone at Bluehole Studio had a moment of clarity and realized they had a race of 85% naked children running around in their MMO, recommended covering them up, only for someone else to turn around and sell even more revealing bikinis as DLC? Is that right? I have to hand it to TERA, that game never fails to entertain, even if it's usually for the wrong reasons.

CommanderZx2 said:
Technically speaking these are not lolis as you put it, they're just a small race of creatures. That's like saying hobbits are loli, because they are small creatures therefore they must be children.
Well, that's...an argument, to be sure. Here, let's take a look.



Let's play spot the difference!

Bluehole Studio can do whatever they want with the game, and I'm sure just playing it isn't going to land anyone on a government watch list, but let's call a spade a spade and a loli a loli, so we don't all look like we're engaged in hysterical rationalization.