The contrast between drug effects and advertised effects
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Despite the encouragement of CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO USE THIS SITE I am yet to take any drugs, mainly due to the fact I have been told by quite a few people (including aforementioned offerer) that because of my Asperger's Syndrome I will go completely crazy. Or turn out like Syd Barrett.
Same here, even if the shit did amazeing things for you mentally I still wouldn't take it, cause the shits expensive and I have school bills to pay. Plus I like to know my own mind.DVSAurion said:
As for other people who use, as long as they don't get on the road afterward and try to drive themselves somewhere, or make the stuff and sell it to others, then I really don't care if they use drugs.
You are not sensitive to smoke, you are sensitive to being a newbie to drugs. Reactions like this take place entirely in your head. It's psychosomatic. I think something is wrong, therefore something is wrong. This is why I never do drugs with new people as they all seem to think that something is wrong and they have to go to the hospital which drives me bonkers. You people ruin my high.I Fiend I said:
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I've done everything there is excluding needles and crack/meth. I am with you 100%. The responses you are "supposed" to have according to ads and idiots who do not know anything are invariably wrong. They are the responses they think will most scare you away from it so they tell you that's all it does. My favourite was a commercial from about 1 yr ago (not sure if you had it in the states but I will describe it as best I can)
There's a fricken BABY crawling towards a pool. This lasts for 10 secs then this voice comes in "Don;t worry, you can just tell her parents you were off getting high"...
It's like WTF? Smoke a dub, kill a baby? Who leaves a baby in the back yard? Pot does not make you anywhere FUCKING NEAR this absent minded. You lose your keys, you lose your lighter, you forget to tivo entourage, YOU DO NOT FORGET ABOUT THE FUCKING BABY IN THE BACK YARD. Hell, if you are REALLY high, you might paint the baby, but that's as bad as it could possibly get.
Whereas alcohol, (Canadians will probably remember this), last winter some fucking asshole drunk of a native gets hammered, then remembers he has to go somewhere. He bundles up the kids and goes for a walk. When he gets to point B, he has no kids, he has no idea where he left them, and they DIE of exposure. This is because of the 'legal' drug people, LEGAL, not the "bad" ones.
In fact, I am going to illustrate the above scenario from the position of a lot of drugs... here we go
Pot - you plain old wouldn't have gone cause you were too busy building a fort with the kids
Coke - you will get those kids from A to B even if you have to fight bears to do it. In record time too.
Acid - Barring a bad trip (which is ridiculously rare, btw) you find the babies fascinating and will do anything to keep them safe if only for the sake you can keep watching them.
E - you LOVE the babies. They are so cute you want to punch them in the face. The thought of anything hurting them is abhorrent to you. The worst that could happen is you force the babies to listen to DJ Tiesto as you walk.
So, as you can see, your babies are safe with stoners. (excluding heroine addicts, crack heads and the like, those people are fucked up and that's coming from a "druggies" perspective.)
Idiots who say drugs are for idiots are idiots. That's like idiots 3 deep. Now I have a shit ton more to say but I'm at work and should probably stop ranting. GL to all.
Woah, I totally didn't expect to see this thread again =P
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Well to say something on topic: Have any of you guys experimented with Nootropics? I realised on rereading my post that I was on Dexies when I wrote it, so I guess it's fitting.
I find I get a LOT done when I'm on things such as Dexies, even Ritalin, but I haven't tried any of the more exotic or hard to obtain ones, so I'm a little curious as to whether they give you massive brain power.
Don't delete the kitten!
Well to say something on topic: Have any of you guys experimented with Nootropics? I realised on rereading my post that I was on Dexies when I wrote it, so I guess it's fitting.
I find I get a LOT done when I'm on things such as Dexies, even Ritalin, but I haven't tried any of the more exotic or hard to obtain ones, so I'm a little curious as to whether they give you massive brain power.
Firstly I must say what a brilliant thread this is.. fuckin LOL@TheMatt, tell it how it is mate.
I'm from the UK (southwest england).. I thought i'd follow suite.. a mini essay based on my extensive history of chemical experimentation.. focusing on ketamine.. one of the most mind-expanding and one of my personal favourites besides mandy (oh how we miss mandy). i wanted to provide a guide on what to expect, illustrating how the experience varies massively depending on the dosage, and as it's so commonplace these days i want to outline the dangers (it's going to be acquired anyway, why doesnt the government admit it's a situation they can't control. instead of advertising scaremonger adverts about drugs destroying lives and being illegal, they could be educating those who've made the choice to take certain drugs to keep them safe and reduce risk.. water with amphets, dont swallow k, etc. anyway rant over..
Any first timers i recommend boshing a nice fat helping of k as full-exposure to K for a first timer is a memorable, eye-opening and very enjoyable experience. Try to avoid alcohol with k.. 1 or 2beers is fine but if you're really drunk, avoid the k. The effects of both are so similar that they combine, double up, resonate and there's a chance of turning paraletic lol.
Ket - 'Horse Tranquiliser!?'.. Used in the first and second world wars by field meds as a quick-acting effective anaesthetic.. also is still used roadside by ambulance services for the same reason (an injected dose of that magnitude would guarantee an insane . It was branded 'horse tranquiliser' as injecting a shit-load of the stuff will tranquilise a horse, or for that matter any other horse-sized beasty. 1g of k is the tiniest fraction of a fraction of what you would tranq a person with, plus it's from pure crystals, uncut and powder form not liquid.
Ket truly is a mind expanding drug.. I'm waiting for the day when everybody in the world is on a simultaneously wonk trip lol, the world would be harmonious. There are many levels to k, distancing from reality increasing with the dosage, i mean that in a positive way. It really is a shift in conciousness, and at higher doses makes your body and mind feel floaty with a heightened awareness of how your body and limbs are functioning almost autonomously. The world unravels and i (personally) find myself logically stripping down, simplifying and decrypting life and patterns, musical principles, the disrepairable state of our (British) government and sometimes just random dead-ended semi-sensical bullshit. Going for a wander (a wobble) is typically a GOOD IDEA.. and dubstep is perfectly suited for a little wobble rave. when going for a wander late night tends to be a safe bet as joe pubic assumes you'r a bunch of drunks. Bear in mind on heavy doses k can make you look more spannered that most other drugs i'v encountered, that is to say gaunt, white, sliding along walls, etc. Typically if you're indoors you don't percieve that anything exists outside of the room.. it's like for a while the room you're in is the universe, until there's a knock on the door from some straight-edge sober mates (sometimes best to hide on these occasions, for their sake more than yours lol). generally speaking it's ideal for everyone to be synchronised with their administration to provide the best social experience possible (adjusting for individual tolerances of course) - but this applies to any drugs really.. and if not the same drug something with similar effects.
I prefer to snort lil lines getting larger over time.. tho the main peak lasts about an hour so ull want to have the next line racked up about half an hour after as the effects then accumulate = levelup = win. I think i deduced there'r about 7 levels of k to rise through before a laarge bump will send you to a pleasant k-hole city. I feel the term k-hole is overused of late.. a real k-hole is when you appear vacant from the outside, eyes wide and usually fixed straight ahead. occasionally spouting some sort of bs (it does, of course make complete sense to the aforementioned k-hole'ee). i recall panicking slightly initially, attempting to peal away layers of warped unreality, trying in vain to get a peek at reality, before embracing the mashedness, exploring concepts of the universe and generally thinking in a more logical methodic manner, analysing the world from a unique perspective.
As a disassociative k removes most of the typical associations with prefabricated objects, thoughts, and people, so you tend to see the world as 'raw data' (on a high dosage this effect is emphasised, the world becomes 2D.. quite a sight. although gravity does have a sneaky tendancy to change orientation when you least expect it, definitely worth noting. the k-hole doesn't last too long.. probably 20-30mins before you rejoin the party and show vaguely coherent signs. Note u do have to bosh a lot to K-hole, (i'm not one for measuring with digis so i do it by eye
but i guess 3-400mg'ish for a newb and that's a complete guess. luckily you can be pretty liberal with it when racking up. try walking backwards down a hill on like the 5th k-level and (typically a grassy festival hill or the suchlike) is randomly very entertaining.. you'd have to try it.
K and valium are a fantastic mix.. best administered just before a crunchy comedown sets in after a heavy night raving on uppers. it is a fluffy dream-like experience, gaining appreciation for general things eg friends, formations and patterns in nature.. are always there but taken for granted. At that point it's worth watching the sunrise, an unbeatable feeling of bliss. I'd go so far as to say the good times on 'downers' at the end of a night (k, diazipam etc) are as glorious and sociable as the uppers.
and i didn't mention the best part.. the above will skip a comedown entirely.. a beer when u finally wake up will straighten your head out and off u go
one major piece of advice definitely worth mentioning.. after insufflation do not swallow the drip, or minimise the amount swallowed as much as possible. K is absorbed in the nasal cavities successfully and efficiently, however the digestive organs dont process the chemical, and excessive swallowing (swallowing a LOT over time) could result in accumulation in organs (kidney or gall stones), possibly crystalisation around the bladder causing false-alarm pee's, etc.. one girl needed her bladder removed.. i dunno if she was just like nomnom'ing the ket or what but it was a pretty foolish state to get into considering a plethora of warning symptoms. but i digress.. these are the extreme side effects, caused by regular habitual usage involving extremely high doses though.. a few mates have been known to bosh grams in one line.. that's when u need to slow it down. the body's immunity/tolerance is rapid, recovering within a few weeks so you wont need to be using excessive amounts.
so that's it for now.. should be back to post another soon, probs on mandy and the new alternatives
{longest, post, evarrrrr)
I'm from the UK (southwest england).. I thought i'd follow suite.. a mini essay based on my extensive history of chemical experimentation.. focusing on ketamine.. one of the most mind-expanding and one of my personal favourites besides mandy (oh how we miss mandy). i wanted to provide a guide on what to expect, illustrating how the experience varies massively depending on the dosage, and as it's so commonplace these days i want to outline the dangers (it's going to be acquired anyway, why doesnt the government admit it's a situation they can't control. instead of advertising scaremonger adverts about drugs destroying lives and being illegal, they could be educating those who've made the choice to take certain drugs to keep them safe and reduce risk.. water with amphets, dont swallow k, etc. anyway rant over..
Any first timers i recommend boshing a nice fat helping of k as full-exposure to K for a first timer is a memorable, eye-opening and very enjoyable experience. Try to avoid alcohol with k.. 1 or 2beers is fine but if you're really drunk, avoid the k. The effects of both are so similar that they combine, double up, resonate and there's a chance of turning paraletic lol.
Ket - 'Horse Tranquiliser!?'.. Used in the first and second world wars by field meds as a quick-acting effective anaesthetic.. also is still used roadside by ambulance services for the same reason (an injected dose of that magnitude would guarantee an insane . It was branded 'horse tranquiliser' as injecting a shit-load of the stuff will tranquilise a horse, or for that matter any other horse-sized beasty. 1g of k is the tiniest fraction of a fraction of what you would tranq a person with, plus it's from pure crystals, uncut and powder form not liquid.
Ket truly is a mind expanding drug.. I'm waiting for the day when everybody in the world is on a simultaneously wonk trip lol, the world would be harmonious. There are many levels to k, distancing from reality increasing with the dosage, i mean that in a positive way. It really is a shift in conciousness, and at higher doses makes your body and mind feel floaty with a heightened awareness of how your body and limbs are functioning almost autonomously. The world unravels and i (personally) find myself logically stripping down, simplifying and decrypting life and patterns, musical principles, the disrepairable state of our (British) government and sometimes just random dead-ended semi-sensical bullshit. Going for a wander (a wobble) is typically a GOOD IDEA.. and dubstep is perfectly suited for a little wobble rave. when going for a wander late night tends to be a safe bet as joe pubic assumes you'r a bunch of drunks. Bear in mind on heavy doses k can make you look more spannered that most other drugs i'v encountered, that is to say gaunt, white, sliding along walls, etc. Typically if you're indoors you don't percieve that anything exists outside of the room.. it's like for a while the room you're in is the universe, until there's a knock on the door from some straight-edge sober mates (sometimes best to hide on these occasions, for their sake more than yours lol). generally speaking it's ideal for everyone to be synchronised with their administration to provide the best social experience possible (adjusting for individual tolerances of course) - but this applies to any drugs really.. and if not the same drug something with similar effects.
I prefer to snort lil lines getting larger over time.. tho the main peak lasts about an hour so ull want to have the next line racked up about half an hour after as the effects then accumulate = levelup = win. I think i deduced there'r about 7 levels of k to rise through before a laarge bump will send you to a pleasant k-hole city. I feel the term k-hole is overused of late.. a real k-hole is when you appear vacant from the outside, eyes wide and usually fixed straight ahead. occasionally spouting some sort of bs (it does, of course make complete sense to the aforementioned k-hole'ee). i recall panicking slightly initially, attempting to peal away layers of warped unreality, trying in vain to get a peek at reality, before embracing the mashedness, exploring concepts of the universe and generally thinking in a more logical methodic manner, analysing the world from a unique perspective.
As a disassociative k removes most of the typical associations with prefabricated objects, thoughts, and people, so you tend to see the world as 'raw data' (on a high dosage this effect is emphasised, the world becomes 2D.. quite a sight. although gravity does have a sneaky tendancy to change orientation when you least expect it, definitely worth noting. the k-hole doesn't last too long.. probably 20-30mins before you rejoin the party and show vaguely coherent signs. Note u do have to bosh a lot to K-hole, (i'm not one for measuring with digis so i do it by eye
but i guess 3-400mg'ish for a newb and that's a complete guess. luckily you can be pretty liberal with it when racking up. try walking backwards down a hill on like the 5th k-level and (typically a grassy festival hill or the suchlike) is randomly very entertaining.. you'd have to try it. K and valium are a fantastic mix.. best administered just before a crunchy comedown sets in after a heavy night raving on uppers. it is a fluffy dream-like experience, gaining appreciation for general things eg friends, formations and patterns in nature.. are always there but taken for granted. At that point it's worth watching the sunrise, an unbeatable feeling of bliss. I'd go so far as to say the good times on 'downers' at the end of a night (k, diazipam etc) are as glorious and sociable as the uppers.
and i didn't mention the best part.. the above will skip a comedown entirely.. a beer when u finally wake up will straighten your head out and off u go
one major piece of advice definitely worth mentioning.. after insufflation do not swallow the drip, or minimise the amount swallowed as much as possible. K is absorbed in the nasal cavities successfully and efficiently, however the digestive organs dont process the chemical, and excessive swallowing (swallowing a LOT over time) could result in accumulation in organs (kidney or gall stones), possibly crystalisation around the bladder causing false-alarm pee's, etc.. one girl needed her bladder removed.. i dunno if she was just like nomnom'ing the ket or what but it was a pretty foolish state to get into considering a plethora of warning symptoms. but i digress.. these are the extreme side effects, caused by regular habitual usage involving extremely high doses though.. a few mates have been known to bosh grams in one line.. that's when u need to slow it down. the body's immunity/tolerance is rapid, recovering within a few weeks so you wont need to be using excessive amounts.
so that's it for now.. should be back to post another soon, probs on mandy and the new alternatives
{longest, post, evarrrrr)
I take acid now and again, its not as crazy as people would have you believe.
The reason i do this is because i write and draw some utterly bizarre and briliant things while in a sort of psychadelic high.
A month or so back, i locked myself in my room with a typewriter, and wrote 600 A4 pages of story about a killer lobster. Again, utterly bizarre, and brilliant.
The reason i do this is because i write and draw some utterly bizarre and briliant things while in a sort of psychadelic high.
A month or so back, i locked myself in my room with a typewriter, and wrote 600 A4 pages of story about a killer lobster. Again, utterly bizarre, and brilliant.
It is understandable that adverts would want to exaggerate the dangers of drugs because this is effectively preparing your for the worst (even if realistically it isn't a likely occurance).
Imagine if there was a drug awareness ad that simply said, 'you'll take some of [insert drug here], you'll see funny shit, laugh your ass off and enjoy an in depth conversation with a chair and that's it' and then somebody dies from an overdose (an unfortuneate occurance that no-one could have predicted), there would be an absolute outrage that they weren't warned of how potentially dangerous drugs could be.
If you want to enjoy recreational drug use then go ahead and don't listen to the ad, listen to your own experience (I don't quite understand why some people are so sore over it).
Some people don't want to do drugs and some people do. Some people are offended by the idea of using them and some find it weird when someone doesn't use them, it takes all kinds.
Imagine if there was a drug awareness ad that simply said, 'you'll take some of [insert drug here], you'll see funny shit, laugh your ass off and enjoy an in depth conversation with a chair and that's it' and then somebody dies from an overdose (an unfortuneate occurance that no-one could have predicted), there would be an absolute outrage that they weren't warned of how potentially dangerous drugs could be.
If you want to enjoy recreational drug use then go ahead and don't listen to the ad, listen to your own experience (I don't quite understand why some people are so sore over it).
Some people don't want to do drugs and some people do. Some people are offended by the idea of using them and some find it weird when someone doesn't use them, it takes all kinds.
i think it's mainly down to my dislike of those who condemn drugs without having stepped outside the lines once just to try at least 1 (yet booze is obviously fine)... pps miss out on experiencing an alternative way of percieving life, giving the world a new context. it's just the rigid regimentation imposed by society to avoid people asking questions.
@furburt .. dabbled in some mephedrone + major missions last night, just about to catch some z's now like.
@furburt .. dabbled in some mephedrone + major missions last night, just about to catch some z's now like.