The cure for Avatar depression

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Captain Blackout

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WARNING: If you flame or troll this without reading it because you're another jaded Dawkinsian net meme quoting twat, you suck.

Now that I've pissed off everyone who came here to slap down the Avatar depression poster, let's get this on.

EDIT: Because I'm a presumptive tool I need to explain something. Avatar depression is a phenomenon where people who see the movie Avatar realize their lives will never be as cool/pretty/exotic as Pandora and get really depressed about it.
EDIT#2: For those who want to picture me without knowing what they're talking about, I have lived in places with a minimum of technology. I spent a summer on a native reservation climbing mesas. I spent another summer raising chickens and a winter in the same place where our only source of heat was a single wood stove. It can be tough. It can also be strengthening. I'm not advocating abandoning technology, and if you claim that I am in any way, you're lying about what I've written here. I am saying we should NOT worship tech, or dogmatic religions, or capitalism, or anything that has destructive ends when carried too far. Read and learn folks, don't blindly quote in an attempt to prove your own half-baked ideas

At it's core Avatar depression brings out a very basic fact of Western European culture (read: roots of western culture from ancient Rome, brought to it's fullest stupidity in America because we use capitalism to drive everything into the ground). We have spent a large portion of our history as humans relying on technology after technology while ignoring or destroying every culture that put learning how to live first and foremost. Mao did it to the Taoist and Buddhists, America did it to the native tribes here, Rome did it to, well, damn near everyone they possibly could. When we weren't using technology as our crutch, we have relied on spoon fed religions devoid of compassion. Christianity was a beautiful thing until Constantine (another fucked up Roman) completely ruined it.

The world is beautiful place. I live on the north west coast area of the US. It's a rainforest here, and there's nothing quite like hiking in the woods out here. I personally prefer it stoned, so I get my own "Avatar" fix whenever I want it. Still, there's a lot of beauty and wonder around. Go study and ancient religion you know nothing about. Go make friends with random people. That beauty and wonder can be found.

We are slowly driving it out of the world, still. A few years back I went to a Buddhist meditation and discussion session. I about geeped at the idiot who said buddhism was about meditating on what you want so you can get it. According to him I could meditate myself a new car. This actually works, by the way. Meditation focuses the self, and if you focus yourself on your goals you have a better chance of achieving them. However, if buddhism is about new cars for you, you really missed the fucking point completely.

We have the technology now to look outwards and find near-habitable and eventually habitable planets. We have the technology to begin building generational starships. If we can re-focus ourselves on learning how to live first, and treating the rest as it should be treated (all the tech is toys folks), if we can relax in the world we have around us instead of finding new and interesting ways of crushing each other physically and economically, then the galaxy is ours with world after world to discover. If we don't learn how to live first, then the first generational ship we send out will end in insanity as the crew destroys itself.

If you suffer from Avatar depression (I know, escapists are better than that. Share this with someone who needs it then) then work to keep beauty in this world and to find the beauty in others.
 

SnootyEnglishman

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I've yet to see Avatar cuz i'm a poor person. But i highly doubt i'll get this emotional afterwards because i know that it is just a movie a very artsy one i give it that but still just a movie
 

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yugioh rly?

Im not sure what you trying to say here, people are sad because we destroyed the world so we should be like Buddhist and meditate for cars?

Ill keep your last part in mind though, its always good advice to beauty in all.
 

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You should probably put a brief description of what Avatar depression is, because not everyone is aware it exists, and to those that don't, your rant seems... odd.

Otherwise, I generally agree.
 

Captain Blackout

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Hexenwolf said:
You should probably put a brief description of what Avatar depression is, because not everyone is aware it exists, and to those that don't, your rant seems... odd.

Otherwise, I generally agree.
Fixed it, thanx. Would explain some of the posts I was getting.
 

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Surival of the fittese, what all the natives who have been destroyed by nations seeking to expanded deserved there fate, did nature protect them? No why? because nature does not give two shits about us and what we do. We need to take what we can then guard it, I bet if the indians knew how to make guns and cultivate like us they would ditch there living in huts and dying ever time a cold snap came by and go for the easier route.

Also I saw Avatar all it did was convey some bullshit message about killing are mother, There earth is fine and after were gone it will move on as if nothing happen.
 

Coltelement

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I actually felt more of a high when I left the theaters...

But I get where you are coming from and would agree that the movie may cause depression rates to rise...

Mcupobob said:
I bet if the indians knew how to make guns and cultivate like us they would ditch there living in huts and dying ever time a cold snap came by and go for the easier route.
I agree. When they were introduced to liquor, their tribes disappeared...
 

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This is probably a moot point, but I doubt we'll truly ever be able to go to a habitable planet outside of this solar system. It really is so unimaginably far.

I mean, we've yet to even go to Mars for crying out loud, and that's only ~150 million kms from the Earth. Pluto, on the other hand, is nearly 6 BILLION kms away from the Earth.

So yeah, treating the planet properly and not consuming the ever-living crap out of it would be in our best interests as quite obviously it's the only one we've got.
 

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Mcupobob said:
Surival of the fittese, what all the natives who have been destroyed by nations seeking to expanded deserved there fate, did nature protect them? No why? because nature does not give two shits about us and what we do. We need to take what we can then guard it, I bet if the indians knew how to make guns and cultivate like us they would ditch there living in huts and dying ever time a cold snap came by and go for the easier route.
Compassion is not in your nature, and I think all beauty has fled your soul.
 

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Visulth said:
This is probably a moot point, but I doubt we'll truly ever be able to go to a habitable planet outside of this solar system. It really is so unimaginably far.

I mean, we've yet to even go to Mars for crying out loud, and that's only ~150 million kms from the Earth. Pluto, on the other hand, is nearly 6 BILLION kms away from the Earth.

So yeah, treating the planet properly and not consuming the ever-living crap out of it would be in our best interests as quite obviously it's the only one we've got.
Maybe if we are able to reach the speed of light (therefore travel "trough" time)...
 

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No, I think I'll go poke fun at them instead. I'm just a barrel of monkeys like that.

Seriously, it would probably work. But I hope it doesn't. Again, monkeys in a barrel.

As my money is on the idea that anyone who suffers from Avatar Depression, probably has the imaginative abilities of a sprout. If they get depressed about Avatar? Well use your imagination and the possibilities are near enough endless, and the good thing is you can dip in and out as you please.
 

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Coltelement said:
Visulth said:
This is probably a moot point, but I doubt we'll truly ever be able to go to a habitable planet outside of this solar system. It really is so unimaginably far.

I mean, we've yet to even go to Mars for crying out loud, and that's only ~150 million kms from the Earth. Pluto, on the other hand, is nearly 6 BILLION kms away from the Earth.

So yeah, treating the planet properly and not consuming the ever-living crap out of it would be in our best interests as quite obviously it's the only one we've got.
Maybe if we are able to reach the speed of light (therefore travel "trough" time)...
We have another option. Simplified form:
Take a large asteroid. Hollow it out. Create large ship capable of supporting generations, and capable of achieving say 1/10 the speed of light. The galaxy is ours EXCEPT if we don't cure 'avatar depression' or what I call 'we have lost our souls as humans' we'll never make it across the void.
 

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I don't see why we should limit the complaints to Western culture (and then mention China as well for some reason). Most cultures are like this, including the ones that the Western and Eastern empires have opressed.

And you mentioned Tibetans. I'm going to go a little off topic now...*Angry hat on*...Funny how they seem to get a free ride, especially when it comes to religion. Before China started slapping tibet around, Tibet was a country ruled not by politicians, but by the religious caste. Tibet relied on serfdom, where only 5% of the population were educated at all, and only the wealthy had any power. I'm not saying that Chinas actions are in any way good, but Tibet is no saint either. It was certainly not the happy, harmless place that pritesters have painted it.

Why is religion and technology being bitched about here? One thing that annoyed me about the film Avatar is the portrayal of the Navi religion. It turns out by the end of the movie that their spiritual beliefs were actually based on a tactile, real, magical understanding of the World and not some distant theological premise based on supernaturalism or superstition. Their religion was portrayed as 100% correct, making it automatically superior to any human religion such as Christianity or Buddhism.

Technology is not a problem either. Where did the Navi get their weapons and building material from? Magic? No, they had to exploit the World around them to some extent. They had to use technology to a limit. Technology itself is a tool, not inately evil in itself. The same can be said of religion.
 

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Avatar depression is for lazy people who don't want to make their lives better and want to just complain about something.

They're close relatives to the console and PC fanboys, but under a different skin.

On topic, I agree with the OP completely.
 

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Mcupobob said:
Surival of the fittese, what all the natives who have been destroyed by nations seeking to expanded deserved there fate, did nature protect them? No why? because nature does not give two shits about us and what we do. We need to take what we can then guard it, I bet if the indians knew how to make guns and cultivate like us they would ditch there living in huts and dying ever time a cold snap came by and go for the easier route.
I think you missed what the OP was trying to say. He's essentially saying...sorta...that we're sapping the beauty out of the world through conformity. Go out, do new things, and live life and you will not have depression. He mentioned nothing about the natural theme of Avatar, which I agree is bullshit for us. Humans cannot live effectively in nature.
 

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Captain Blackout said:
Mcupobob said:
Surival of the fittese, what all the natives who have been destroyed by nations seeking to expanded deserved there fate, did nature protect them? No why? because nature does not give two shits about us and what we do. We need to take what we can then guard it, I bet if the indians knew how to make guns and cultivate like us they would ditch there living in huts and dying ever time a cold snap came by and go for the easier route.
Compassion is not in your nature, and I think all beauty has fled your soul.
Compassion for humans is in my souls, yes the world is beautiful I know I live in the middle of a forest partically I enjoy it, What I do remeber though is that nature is power we have no control over and should not even try it is a entity that has no compassion us, and never will. Don't appeal to nature appeal to your species enjoy us while we are still here. The earth is not are mother the earth is a torrotent of emotionless beauty and destrution, It does not care for us and instead fights us, so we have to fight it back.
 

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Mcupobob said:
Captain Blackout said:
Mcupobob said:
Surival of the fittese, what all the natives who have been destroyed by nations seeking to expanded deserved there fate, did nature protect them? No why? because nature does not give two shits about us and what we do. We need to take what we can then guard it, I bet if the indians knew how to make guns and cultivate like us they would ditch there living in huts and dying ever time a cold snap came by and go for the easier route.
Compassion is not in your nature, and I think all beauty has fled your soul.
Compassion for humans is in my souls, yes the world is beautiful I know I live in the middle of a forest partically I enjoy it, What I do remeber though is that nature is power we have no control over and should not even try it is a entity that has no compassion us, and never will. Don't appeal to nature appeal to your species enjoy us while we are still here. The earth is not are mother the earth is a torrotent of emotionless beauty and destrution, It does not care for us and instead fights us, so we have to fight it back.
Yeah, let's face it. One day the Earth will get real pissed at us and it's gonna wipe us all out.