The Definition of a Gamer

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t3h br0th3r

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I've been working on coming up with a definition of what a gamer is for a while and I have an idea but I don't think its quite their yet. Please take a look at it and tell me what you think.

Gamer- Someone who plays non-casual video games on the regular bases during their free time.
 

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t3h br0th3r said:
I've been working on coming up with a definition of what a gamer is for a while and I have an idea but I don't think its quite their yet. Please take a look at it and tell me what you think.

Gamer- Someone who plays non-casual video games on the regular bases during their free time.
Fixed it.

I would say someone who spends a good hunk of their free time playing casual games is still a gamer.
 

MGlBlaze

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If you play computer games, you're a gamer. Full stop. Doesn't matter if it's Demon's Souls, Super Meat Boy, Mario, FarmVille, whatever, as long as you on average dedicate a resonable amount of time to it.
 

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MGlBlaze said:
If you play computer games, you're a gamer. Full stop. Doesn't matter if it's Demon's Souls, Super Meat Boy, Mario, FarmVille, whatever, as long as you on average dedicate a resonable amount of time to it.
Disagree. Just because you drive a car doesn't make you a racer. Just because you play a game of football, you're not a football player.

Farmville and the likes are not games. If you count them as games, then posting on forums should be a game too, post counts are like highscores.
 

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t3h br0th3r said:
I've been working on coming up with a definition of what a gamer is for a while and I have an idea but I don't think its quite their yet. Please take a look at it and tell me what you think.

Gamer- Someone who plays video games during their free time.
Edited that definition for you to make it more accurate. Saying that a gamer is someone who plays non-casual games on a regular basis is one of the most elitist and arrogant things I can think of. A gamer is anybody, I say again, ANYBODY, who plays any video game at any point in time. My mother owns a Wii and plays Just Dance, Wii Fit, and Wii Sports. Not very often though, because she's often busy with work. However, she still plays games, so she is still a gamer. She owns a games console, so she is a gamer.

Claiming that someone isn't a proper gamer because they don't play regularly or because they don't play 'hardcore' games is just a really stuck-up and arrogant way of looking at things. It's as simple as that.
 

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mindlesspuppet said:
MGlBlaze said:
If you play computer games, you're a gamer. Full stop. Doesn't matter if it's Demon's Souls, Super Meat Boy, Mario, FarmVille, whatever, as long as you on average dedicate a resonable amount of time to it.
Disagree. Just because you drive a car doesn't make you a racer. Just because you play a game of football, you're not a football player.

Farmville and the likes are not games. If you count them as games, then posting on forums should be a game too, post counts are like highscores.
Ummmmm, that's a silly way of looking at it. If you drive a car then you are a driver. If you play games then you are a gamer. A racer is someone who races cars, which is completely different to just driving them for the sake of driving them. Same applies to your football idea. Anyone who plays football is still a football player, because they play football. The difference is whether or not they are professional or if they simply play with their friends, it doesn't stop them from being a football player though, even if it's only for the duration of a single match...

EDIT: Oh, and technically, Farmville is a game. It technically comes under the classification of game, according to the dictionary's definition of a game. We may not like it, and barely tolerate it, but just because we don't like it doesn't mean we can deny it as being a game. That road leads to people denouncing everything else they don't like in the industry as 'not being games', and just isn't true or feasible.
 

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Trivun said:
Claiming that someone isn't a proper gamer because they don't play regularly or because they don't play 'hardcore' games is just a really stuck-up and arrogant way of looking at things. It's as simple as that.
This is why we can't have nice things. D:

I think, personally, that a gamer is someone who doesn't put a lot of time necessarily into gaming, but picks up a game on a day to day basis, whether it be on the subway going to work, or a Halo tournament on XBL.
 

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mindlesspuppet said:
Disagree. Just because you drive a car doesn't make you a racer.
Buh? Hang on a second, am I missing something here, or is there some requirement needed to be a 'gamer' other than basic fundamental requirement of playing computer games? If you answer 'yes' then I have a very strong suspicion that you're one of the elitists that is doing the gaming community no favours.
Also driving a car normally and driving it for a race are, while similar on the surface, very different things that require a significant jump in skill and knowledge.
Also, someone who drives a car is a driver. A racer is a sub-set of being a driver.

mindlesspuppet said:
Just because you play a game of football, you're not a football player.
You kind of are actually, unless you define 'football player' in a strictly professional sense.

mindlesspuppet said:
Farmville and the likes are not games. If you count them as games, then posting on forums should be a game too, post counts are like highscores.
Okay then, how do you define a 'game'?
A game is an activity designed to engage an individual, or individuals, in the act of play. This can cover a wide area and the concept of play extends far and wide, including computer games.
Computer games at their most basic level require the ability for the player to make control inputs, there must be obstacles or challenges of some description to overcome (combat is an obvious one, though it can be something else) and provide conflict, and the results of actons should be presented to the player while hiding things like random calculations behind the scenes. There should also be some form of goal; this can be defined by the game as some story, or able to be defined by the player though game mechanics. Objects in the 'world' should also provide player interaction, and interact with eachother. Choice and problems should also be present, giving 'pathways' for the player to progress down. All of this should be bound by a set of rules that constrains what is possible for the player and everything else in the world to do.
These rules also cover a wide area; from something as simple as defining the bounds of the world, to more complex interactions of and action X affecting Y in manner Z; for example, if you click somewhere on the screen it will cause something in your control to move to that location or attack what you clicked on like in Strategy games.

FarmVille counts, like it or not.
Forums do not, except when an individual contructs a set of rules for the purpose of making a forum-based game.
 

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A gamer is someone who plays games.
This. Why does it have to be "OOH IF THEY PLAY CASUAL GAMES THEY DON'T COUNT!111"

My Dad plays Minecraft and Poker Night at the Inventory maybe for an hour every week, I would consider him a gamer. My brother has over 1.5 thousand hours in Team Fortress 2, and is currently playing Global Agenda as I type this(And it's almost midnight) and I consider him a gamer as well.
 

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Doe this really matter at all? Sure, creating labels for people as a society might make things easier for categorization of people; but in the end all this categorization has led to is the seclusion and exploitation of others. Gamers are what they make of themselves.
 

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Gamer sounds anything but non-casual.
It shouldn't exist as a definition really.
Like misquoting the Koran, with which both Al-Qaeda and conservative Christians excel at, the term gamer benefits those who believe they are in the known and those who want to refer negatively to those who play videogames in one large terminology.

It's not a profession (not recognized as a field of major, anyway), nor a status, what it really compares to is reader, which only describes an individual by his/her hobby.

Yahtzee worded this better than I can.
 

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t3h br0th3r said:
I've been working on coming up with a definition of what a gamer is for a while and I have an idea but I don't think its quite their yet. Please take a look at it and tell me what you think.

Gamer- Someone who plays non-casual video games on the regular bases during their free time.
That's a "Hardcore Gamer".

A gamer is simply someone who semi-frequently plays ANY video games. I'd put it along the same lines as a movie-goer or a tv-watcher. Both of those have hardcore versions too.

Gamer - Hardcore Gamer
Movie Goer - Movie Nut (There's probably a better term for this.)
Tv Watcher - Couch Potato
 

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Verex said:
Trivun said:
Claiming that someone isn't a proper gamer because they don't play regularly or because they don't play 'hardcore' games is just a really stuck-up and arrogant way of looking at things. It's as simple as that.
This is why we can't have nice things. D:

I think, personally, that a gamer is someone who doesn't put a lot of time necessarily into gaming, but picks up a game on a day to day basis, whether it be on the subway going to work, or a Halo tournament on XBL.
Day to day? I guess I'm not a gamer then. For about six months a year I won't touch games because I don't have free time--while on the train to work, I'll be doing work. If I start gaming, I get addicted, and neglect work.

I don't think regularity has anything to do with it.
 

SimuLord

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9_6 said:
A gamer is someone who plays games.
SLASH THREAD.

Though I would go a step further and say that "a gamer" who identifies as such is a different animal than a gamer who is so because playing games is his hobby and preferred form of stress relief.

To quote Daniel Floyd, "that's all I get?!"
 

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Gamer- A person who enjoys and spends time playing video games regardless of genre or release date.

I don't care if you play Hello Kitty games, it is a game and you are playing it. You are a gamer.

[sub]This casual vs hardcore split is just ridiculous IMO.[/sub]
 

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Okay, for argument's sake (and to prevent everyone from going "Anyone who plays any game" blah blah blah), I going to assume you mean what makes a Gamer. Note the captial 'G'. The people in this catagory are separate from those who sit at their office and play games like the ones on Facebook and whatnot. My definition is "A person who plays, follows, and understands video games. Not someone who just ran out and bought the newest 'Call of War' game because it's the big thing right now. Someone who, when asked about video games, can give an indepth answer regarding his or her favorite game or games that isn't just 'It's so awesome (or whatever adjective you'd prefer).'"

That's how I consider someone a Gamer. I have some friends at work that go, "Dude, I'm a gamer. I got Black Ops." As soon as they can't even tell me the name of the main character or anything about the story, but can give me how many people they killed in the last match, I dismiss them as a Gamer.