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sneak_copter

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emwhite123 said:
yes they are stupid.
but let the stupid people have their fun.
its not hurting anyone.
if you don't like it, don't comment on it, simple as that.
Exactly. Let the idiots be. The mod's will take care of it.

As for you, OP, I'd be inclined to agree. Although I do enjoy telling the world all about the time I ordered a Salad in a Steakhouse.

... You heard.

THAT'S SARCASM.
 

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theklng said:
so, i was sifting through the threads of this forum and, like always, i noticed most if not all threads were pretty senseless in one way or another. a few examples would be "what was the most girly/manly/x-esque thing you've done today" or "what is your favorite beverage".

OPs in these threads are always going in for the personal opinion, because it's the best way to get a ton of replies with as little meaning associated with them as possible. i mean, who cares what the most manly or girly thing you've done today is? who cares whether your favorite beverage is mountain dew or whatever? who is going to read through all the entries in a thread like that, and for what? whenever i see a thread like that it makes me think of virtual, endless trash bins, where people can "fire-and-forget" their opinions into cyberspace.

the problem is hardly a new one; it has arguably persisted since the creation of the forums. it could well be the original intent of the forums was for threads like these to happen, so that users would have stronger associations or bonds with the magazine and thus more loyalty towards the corporation behind it (i am onto you, escapist). sadly, the problem has escalated to the point where repeated content happens every day and where people don't think before they write thread or post.

i have a personal stake in this. i'd like to consider myself fairly intelligent. at the very least i can keep up a reasonable discussion, granted that it is somehow worth my time; i.e. a discussion where i can learn something from reading and/or participating in it. on the escapist, these discussions happen a lot less than they should.
So don't participate in those threads. The fact is, some people consider those threads fun. Doesn't mean they're idiots! and to be honest you're just better off shutting your mouth and not paying any attention to those threads. Honestly though you've pegged yourself as just another idiot for this thread, you did exactly the things you dislike in a forum.

1 reasonable discussion: you started a bitchy rant, not a discussion.

2 learn something: wow we learned you were a snobbish prick, now there's some valuable info.

Great job making a total ass of yourself.

theklng said:
i bet there are at least a few of you that aren't here digging for achievements/gold, high post-counts, celebrityhood, or other equally vain reasons. a few of you that still have some intent of going to a place to listen and learn, rather than just spitting out an opinion and leaving. this thread is for those of you.

the premise is simply to discuss any well founded ideas or arguments that you might have and not know where to spill. this includes the discussion of this post itself, as i think it is in everyone's favor that the escapist becomes a more intellectually driven forum rather than a digital garbage disposal. feel free to post suggestions as to improve on the current state of forum affairs.

I'm sure if people wanted to discuss something they would just make a thread of their own. Most of the people who are smart enough to discuss something intellectual also are smart enough to use the "New Topic" button and the search bar.
 

Knight Templar

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Clearly I am not explaining myself or you are not understanding or something such as that, but it's clear this isn't going well for eather of us so I'll just back down.
I am sorry for any inadvernt insults, I wasn't out to attack you in any way.
 

Samurai Goomba

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The Escapist is as smart a forum as you make it. Don't like the topics? Make some "good" ones. The quality of the threads around here is entirely in your hands. You could even get together an Escapist Council of Doom to toss around topic ideas, then create something unique as a joint effort. Be a part of the solution if you think there's a problem needs fixin'.

The issue of The Escapist being too restrictive is something to take up with the mods, rather than gripe about it here. Most of the recent permabans of "core" community members were 100% deserved. If they wanted to be here, they should have acted like it. Maybe they made things "fun," but they clearly knew where the lines were and crossed them anyway. Hence, they are gone. Ain't nobody's fault but their own. If you enjoy discussing topics which are not allowed here, or want a less politically-correct forum, there are plenty of those out there. This just isn't one of them.

I've seen a lot of dull topics today, but usually there's at least one or two worth posting in.
 

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I wont lie, not to long ago I had a very similar thought to the one you expressed here OP, but then I realized two things.

1, I remembered that even when I was new to this forum and thought it was the last bastion of hope on the internet, truly well thought out topics were few and far between. They still are today. Nothing has changed.
2, I was being a pretentious ass. I was acting like one of those douchebags who continually complain that things were different when THEY were new and yet never provided anything that could steer the forum in the right direction.

I suppose that is my problem with this thread. You should, by now, know both of these things to be true. What you have done is made a thread that is intended to flame a group of people, you've made a thread that for a lot of people is nothing more than a fume and leave (or a fire-and-forget as you put it). You want to complain about all of these topics but, as of yet, you have done nothing to solve this problem. Do you want to know how you could solve it? Go into a thread that you can tell was made without thinking and post something that is truly profound that answers the question and yet doesn't insult the OP for making such a dumb topic. Doing that will allow people to see what they can do with their responses. You could also help by posting a topic that actually requires one to think (no, this isn't one of those topics).

A personal nitpick(as if this entire post wasn't one): Get an avatar, it allows me to understand one of your interests, even if that isn't what your post is about. It also adds a bit of personality.

P.S. Let it be known that I personally have nothing against you O.P. In fact, I think we could be good friends. It just seems that you have jumped onto a soapbox with nothing to do but complain.
 

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theklng said:
so, i was sifting through the threads of this forum and, like always, i noticed most if not all threads were pretty senseless in one way or another. a few examples would be "what was the most girly/manly/x-esque thing you've done today" or "what is your favorite beverage".

OPs in these threads are always going in for the personal opinion, because it's the best way to get a ton of replies with as little meaning associated with them as possible. i mean, who cares what the most manly or girly thing you've done today is? who cares whether your favorite beverage is mountain dew or whatever? who is going to read through all the entries in a thread like that, and for what? whenever i see a thread like that it makes me think of virtual, endless trash bins, where people can "fire-and-forget" their opinions into cyberspace.

the problem is hardly a new one; it has arguably persisted since the creation of the forums. it could well be the original intent of the forums was for threads like these to happen, so that users would have stronger associations or bonds with the magazine and thus more loyalty towards the corporation behind it (i am onto you, escapist). sadly, the problem has escalated to the point where repeated content happens every day and where people don't think before they write thread or post.

i have a personal stake in this. i'd like to consider myself fairly intelligent. at the very least i can keep up a reasonable discussion, granted that it is somehow worth my time; i.e. a discussion where i can learn something from reading and/or participating in it. on the escapist, these discussions happen a lot less than they should.

i bet there are at least a few of you that aren't here digging for achievements/gold, high post-counts, celebrityhood, or other equally vain reasons. a few of you that still have some intent of going to a place to listen and learn, rather than just spitting out an opinion and leaving. this thread is for those of you.

the premise is simply to discuss any well founded ideas or arguments that you might have and not know where to spill. this includes the discussion of this post itself, as i think it is in everyone's favor that the escapist becomes a more intellectually driven forum rather than a digital garbage disposal. feel free to post suggestions as to improve on the current state of forum affairs.

OFFENSE INTENDED
ok three points.

1. If you feel there isnt enough intelligent discussion, Make a thread (that hasnt been done before) with an interesting thought inducing point.

2. If your angry about repeated/similar threads, Live with it, I know i do. Trying to teach certain posters to use the search bar is like trying to teach a duck to play the xylophone.

3. And dont think your the smartest one here, There is always SOMEONE smarter & more elitest than you.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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scifidownbeat said:
Let me tell you something, this website is home to one of the most intellectually driven set of forums on the internet. I have yet to find even a single forum on any other site that can compete with the content of this site.
This.
 

Deralix

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emwhite123 said:
yes they are stupid.
but let the stupid people have their fun.
its not hurting anyone.
if you don't like it, don't comment on it, simple as that.

^This. Elitist attitudes are as equally retarded.
 

Lusperus

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I believe respect is earned not given. A person on here earns my respect when they act civil and calmly defend their opinion without getting mad and starting a flamewar on the subject.

To shorten what I mean is this. It is the content of the posts the person has made. Not how many posts they have made or how long they have been here.

This is my opinion though and people will most likely disagree with it. I am not going to argue with them over it if they disagree with my opinion.[/quote]

I agree, sure you've "gone gonzo" but you've only joined two months ago, and if I look at your profile and your last five posts are mostly saying "this" or "Lol" I'm probably not going to respect you.
 

Supreme Unleaded

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i dont see what the big idea is, so what if people make pointless threads, half the crap we do in life is pointless anyway.

And if threads werent reapeted now and then, the only thing we could post about would be the news, and then we'd have people rushing to be the first one to post it, in the end having 50 threading saying akmost the same excact thing.

We've already talked about global wormin, abortion, every video game ever made and some that arent, news, and pointless crap. So there is no reason to stop doing what we're doing,

And anyway, making a thread of what you saw on your public bathroom wall is just funny.
 

Zhalath

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Well, due to the nature of a forum and the method of posting, it's far easier to fire-and-forget. If you want to have a discussion, you have to get updates, have to keep checking the topic, and so on and so on.

But it's not like having intelligent discussions moves us towards any sort of goal either. Some people just want to screw around and have fun with a forum.
 

SplattererRoss

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I have to agree with your OT, there are definitely a lot of repeat topics, but I doubt that this topic will bring about any change to people who post repeat threads. If the OP was worded in a more constructive, less ranting format, I think we would be getting somewhere. Putting "Offense Intended" at the end really doesn't help anybody and just makes the whole thing seem like a long rant on forums. All in all, I do agree with the OT, but it definitely just seems like a rant and doesn't seem like you are trying to help.
 

cavsfan69

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I have wanted to discuss the tame traveling paradox for a while and haven't had anywhere to do it.
(if this is a thread about intelligent discussion then lets get to it.)
 

Horned Rat

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cavsfan69 said:
I have wanted to discuss the tame traveling paradox for a while and haven't had anywhere to do it.
(if this is a thread about intelligent discussion then lets get to it.)
I'll start.

The confusing thing for me has always been if that if you go back in time and change something, that will affect the future. So chances are the series of events that lead you to changing the past will never happen, therefore the past remains and you never go back and change anything.

However, if nothing changes, then the series of events do happen and you will try and change the past and so forth. Does this mean that we can't change the past no matter what we do or does this mean that going back in time creates an alternative timeline?

However, then if you are in the alternative timeline, what happens to you in the original timeline? If someone goes back in time do they join your timeline or start a 3rd alternate?
 

WrongSprite

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The forums havn't changed one bit since I joined a year ago. You all just tend to forget the idiots that were around back then, and remember the good bits.
 

cavsfan69

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Horned Rat said:
cavsfan69 said:
I have wanted to discuss the tame traveling paradox for a while and haven't had anywhere to do it.
(if this is a thread about intelligent discussion then lets get to it.)
I'll start.

The confusing thing for me has always been if that if you go back in time and change something, that will affect the future. So chances are the series of events that lead you to changing the past will never happen, therefore the past remains and you never go back and change anything.

However, if nothing changes, then the series of events do happen and you will try and change the past and so forth. Does this mean that we can't change the past no matter what we do or does this mean that going back in time creates an alternative timeline?

However, then if you are in the alternative timeline, what happens to you in the original timeline? If someone goes back in time do they join your timeline or start a 3rd alternate?
Maybe The time-stream has already been altered so that anyone who ever goes back in time would have done what they wanted and modern day society reflects the will of future. timetravellers
 

ThebigZ

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All i have to say is if you dont like it. Then stop looking its your personal fault for looking and reading these things just push them aside. If you look at them then its your fault for being aggravated at these. If you just say screw that then your fine. You still can find good forums Just go to a different website one that hold your views and values in heart.
 

Sparrow

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Right...

Apparently intelligence is directly linked to douchebaggery nowadays.

Count me in on being an idiot, please. I'm much happier being obvlious to this forum's "problems". I like it how it is, it's a good place for discussion. Your blabbering is pointless. It serves no purpose, and it seems it's only directed at the forum to get a negative response.

Kindly stop making posts that provoke flames, and read the damn guidelines.