The difference of isms.

[The-Traveling-Bard]

and people making ism jokes.

There's seems to be a lot of people that can not tell the difference between a person who is genuinely racist and someone just being a jerk. This is quite sickening. I find it disturbing that people are being mis-labled as sexist, racism, with other isms.

Look at this.

If you're a female reading this. Get off the computer and get me a sandwich.

^ Now by that statement many people will label me as sexist.

But am I truly sexist?

I didn't make the comment out of anger/hatred for women. I made the comment without emotion, without a nano second worth of thought.

Even facebook pages saying that "Girls deserve to be rape" or other things like "All blacks are niggers"

Are these pages truly racist/sexist?

are these pages driven by a desire to see a group of a certain community oppressed or this dickheads just being dickheads? Come on are you seriously telling me you can't tell the difference between a jerk and someone who is genuinely racism/sexist/whatever?

I really wish people would stop throwing around words like they're pennies in a wishing well.

A person making a sexist/racism/ mark does not mean they're sexist

I make sexist remarks all the time.
But that doesn't make a sexist. My remarks don't come from a deep anger/hatred from women it comes from because I have a difference sense of humor. And that does NOT make me less of a person.


If you want to fight against REAL sexism and REAL racism. Please fight against these people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aplfYAbOvgA

This is REAL sexism people. This is the REAL issue.

Not some asshole who is being asshole for the sake of being a asshole.
I think this is why I have no respect for majority of feminist and equal rights fighters because at least on the internet.(Also in my experience) They seem to attack EVERYONE who even makes the slightest remark. Are you seriously going to tell me the real issue on sexism is some 14-16-18 year old making a sammich joke?

No. No. No. No.
Please grow up, and stop acting like anybody who makes even a slight sexist statement is a sexist person. We live in a age where trolling is very wide spread and people will say horrible things because they can get away with it.

In fact.. my girlfriend actually just texted me this.
Me: Go cook it yourself.
Her: I can't! ;-;
Me: Why not? D:
Her: I like it on the grill. Grilling is a man's job!


... is she really being sexist, or is she just being a smartass?

Remember sexist COMES FROM A HATRED/ANGER TOWARDS THE OPPOSITE GENDER.
Did she say this out of hatred towards me?
No. She didn't.

Learn some fucking context people and stop throwing words around like your throwing pennies in a wishing well.

 

[Phasmal]

Ok, so now we have to be psychic and know everyone's intent.
Because intent is magical and makes words not mean things.

No, I don't think so.
Why should I try and determine the intent of every shithead who throws a sexist remark my way?
It's okay for guys to harass female gamers online as long as they don't actually hate women with every fiber of their being?

`Stop calling me sexist if I say a sexist thing!`
Seriously Escapist.

 

[Realitycrash]

In fact.. my girlfriend actually just texted me this.
Me: Go cook it yourself.
Her: I can't! ;-;
Me: Why not? D:
Her: I like it on the grill. Grilling is a man's job!


... is she really being sexist, or is she just being a smartass?

Remember sexist COMES FROM A HATRED/ANGER TOWARDS THE OPPOSITE GENDER.
Did she say this out of hatred towards me?
No. She didn't.

Learn some fucking context people and stop throwing words around like your throwing pennies in a wishing well.

..Gee, it couldn't be the fact that CONTEXT is hard to DETERMINE, especially on the internet or with strangers you do not know.
Hell, I pull racist and sexist with my black and female (and black-female) friends all the time, but I know they GET them. I do NOT throw such words and jokes around with people that I am sure as hell unaware of will get them or not (like at a new job, or an internet forum).
There, you are enlightened.


Edit: And by the way, I am Equalitarian. I say this now because I know this will turn into a Feminism-thread sooner or later.
As an Equalitarian, I believe in equal opportunity, positive-discrimination (though certain cases are gray areas and up for debate), equal treatment and equal support for both sexes. The guiding principle overall is to create a better, more equal society without violating basic principles of rights for either sex (unless they are covered by the gray-areas of positive discrimination).
If you believe the same, then please, call yourself an Equalitarian (a term I made up about a month ago), just so that when the next asshat silly person says 'Feminists are sexists and just hate men' you can tell them that you are indeed NOT a feminist and tell them to up the shut f*ck be quiet.

(Code of Equalitrianism may change over time if proper arguments are given, if so, you will all be noted. Thank you.)

 

[Phasmal]

Ok, so now we have to be psychic and know everyone's intent.
Because intent is magical and makes words not mean things.

No, I don't think so.
Why should I try and determine the intent of every shithead who throws a sexist remark my way?
It's okay for guys to harass female gamers online as long as they don't actually hate women with every fiber of their being?

`Stop calling me sexist if I say a sexist thing!`
Seriously Escapist.

Hahaha. That made me laugh.
This isn't really about me personally.
But I just hate how people throw around the word like racism/sexist all the time just because someone makes a slightest slur. The meaning of sexism is a hatred for a gender.

If someone makes a joke.
That doesn't mean he hates the other gender.

There is no hatred there. No evil intent on oppressing his girlfriend.

You're kind of trying to make this something it isn't.
Not to mention you've got the definition of sexism wrong. I'm sure dictionary.com can help you there.

Jokes with friends in context may be acceptable. But the internet is not your friend.
You claim other people can't understand context while ignoring this context.

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

Ok, so now we have to be psychic and know everyone's intent.
Because intent is magical and makes words not mean things.

No, I don't think so.
Why should I try and determine the intent of every shithead who throws a sexist remark my way?
It's okay for guys to harass female gamers online as long as they don't actually hate women with every fiber of their being?

`Stop calling me sexist if I say a sexist thing!`
Seriously Escapist.

Hahaha. That made me laugh.
This isn't really about me personally.
But I just hate how people throw around the word like racism/sexist all the time just because someone makes a slightest slur. The meaning of sexism is a hatred for a gender.

If someone makes a joke.
That doesn't mean he hates the other gender.

There is no hatred there. No evil intent on oppressing his girlfriend.

You're kind of trying to make this something it isn't.
Not to mention you've got the definition of sexism wrong. I'm sure dictionary.com can help you there.

Jokes with friends in context may be acceptable. But the internet is not your friend.
You claim other people can't understand context while ignoring this context.

Yeah, I understand that I should have used the word Misogynistic instead of sexism. o.e

 

[Thaluikhain]

If someone says something racist, they are being racist. It's not a leap to assume that this isn't the only time they are racist.

It doesn't mean they are very racist, but it means they are being at least somewhat racist.

 

[Realitycrash]

Ok, so now we have to be psychic and know everyone's intent.
Because intent is magical and makes words not mean things.

No, I don't think so.
Why should I try and determine the intent of every shithead who throws a sexist remark my way?
It's okay for guys to harass female gamers online as long as they don't actually hate women with every fiber of their being?

`Stop calling me sexist if I say a sexist thing!`
Seriously Escapist.

Hahaha. That made me laugh.
This isn't really about me personally.
But I just hate how people throw around the word like racism/sexist all the time just because someone makes a slightest slur. The meaning of sexism is a hatred for a gender.

If someone makes a joke.
That doesn't mean he hates the other gender.

There is no hatred there. No evil intent on oppressing his girlfriend.

In fact.. my girlfriend actually just texted me this.
Me: Go cook it yourself.
Her: I can't! ;-;
Me: Why not? D:
Her: I like it on the grill. Grilling is a man's job!


... is she really being sexist, or is she just being a smartass?

Remember sexist COMES FROM A HATRED/ANGER TOWARDS THE OPPOSITE GENDER.
Did she say this out of hatred towards me?
No. She didn't.

Learn some fucking context people and stop throwing words around like your throwing pennies in a wishing well.

..Gee, it couldn't be the fact that CONTEXT is hard to DETERMINE, especially on the internet or with strangers you do not know.
Hell, I pull racist and sexist with my black and female (and black-female) friends all the time, but I know they GET them. I do NOT throw such words and jokes around with people that I am sure as hell unaware of will get them or not (like at a new job, or an internet forum).
There, you are enlightened.

So.. you're not smart enough to realize someone is just being a dick for the sake of being a dick?
Kay. That's all I got out that paragraph that you can't think outside your box.

"Well, I don't know that person. Therefor he is sexist"
LOGIC! Also judgmental.

Online? No. And honestly, I doubt that you are either. And with people that throw a casual racist-joke? No. And once again, I seriously doubt your power to always tell the difference either.
And pretty much, it comes down to this: Some stuff you say are hurtful. You shouldn't be hurtful. Unless you know what you say will hurt someone (and sexist/racist remarks do), then don't.

Edit: And it's 'I don't know if that person if sexist or not, but I am unsettled by his sexist remarks, and it hurts me. I would prefer if he would keep his unsettling and rude humor to himself until he makes sure no-one around him takes offense. Because that's the respectful thing to do'

 

[Realitycrash]

If someone says something racist, they are being racist. It's not a leap to assume that this isn't the only time they are racist.

It doesn't mean they are very racist, but it means they are being at least somewhat racist.

Geh, okey, this is a tad too extreme of a conclusion. Should you keep your jokes to yourself in order to not hurt others you know will take offense? Yes.
Does a joke make you racist/sexist? No. It makes you a man with (at times) improper social-skills.

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

Ok, so now we have to be psychic and know everyone's intent.
Because intent is magical and makes words not mean things.

No, I don't think so.
Why should I try and determine the intent of every shithead who throws a sexist remark my way?
It's okay for guys to harass female gamers online as long as they don't actually hate women with every fiber of their being?

`Stop calling me sexist if I say a sexist thing!`
Seriously Escapist.

Hahaha. That made me laugh.
This isn't really about me personally.
But I just hate how people throw around the word like racism/sexist all the time just because someone makes a slightest slur. The meaning of sexism is a hatred for a gender.

If someone makes a joke.
That doesn't mean he hates the other gender.

There is no hatred there. No evil intent on oppressing his girlfriend.

In fact.. my girlfriend actually just texted me this.
Me: Go cook it yourself.
Her: I can't! ;-;
Me: Why not? D:
Her: I like it on the grill. Grilling is a man's job!


... is she really being sexist, or is she just being a smartass?

Remember sexist COMES FROM A HATRED/ANGER TOWARDS THE OPPOSITE GENDER.
Did she say this out of hatred towards me?
No. She didn't.

Learn some fucking context people and stop throwing words around like your throwing pennies in a wishing well.

..Gee, it couldn't be the fact that CONTEXT is hard to DETERMINE, especially on the internet or with strangers you do not know.
Hell, I pull racist and sexist with my black and female (and black-female) friends all the time, but I know they GET them. I do NOT throw such words and jokes around with people that I am sure as hell unaware of will get them or not (like at a new job, or an internet forum).
There, you are enlightened.

So.. you're not smart enough to realize someone is just being a dick for the sake of being a dick?
Kay. That's all I got out that paragraph that you can't think outside your box.

"Well, I don't know that person. Therefor he is sexist"
LOGIC! Also judgmental.

Online? No. And honestly, I doubt that you are either. And with people that throw a casual racist-joke? No. And once again, I seriously doubt your power to always tell the difference either.
And pretty much, it comes down to this: Some stuff you say are hurtful. You shouldn't be hurtful. Unless you know what you say will hurt someone (and sexist/racist remarks do), then don't.

I hate to throw the grow a thicker skin argument. But when it comes to the internet and especially the youtube section of teh webz. Don't comment their if you don't expect to be harassed a little bit.

I hate how (and I swear this only do this in America) this idea came about that you should always have to censor yourself, and make sure you don't offend anyone at all. I find that utter complete bullshit. Everyone is going to offend someone at some point in time some where, some how. Grow a a pair and suck it up.

and honestly.. if you take ANYONE says on the certain places like 4chan. You just need to log off and never come back.

 

[MysticSlayer]

The thing is, racism and sexism are not the same as hate for a particular race or gender. Yes, hatred of a race or gender can be classified as racism or sexism, but it isn't the only thing that can be classified under those -isms. Stereotyping, prejudice, and superiority complexes are all part of the issue with racism and sexism, and all of them can be unpleasant for those who find themselves on the wrong end of it. Yes, we do need to take context into consideration, as with the recent debacle over the trash talking during Microsoft's E3 conference, but keep in mind that a person can be racist or sexist even without hate. A man believing women to be lower than himself doesn't have to hate the women to be a sexist (you find this a lot if you look at different religions and philosophies throughout history). Yes, some people take things too far, and I certainly can't think of a reason why jokes that are obviously jokes are bad, but we shouldn't try to belittle the stereotyping that takes place simply no hate is involved and a few people take things too far.

 

[Realitycrash]

Ok, so now we have to be psychic and know everyone's intent.
Because intent is magical and makes words not mean things.

No, I don't think so.
Why should I try and determine the intent of every shithead who throws a sexist remark my way?
It's okay for guys to harass female gamers online as long as they don't actually hate women with every fiber of their being?

`Stop calling me sexist if I say a sexist thing!`
Seriously Escapist.

Hahaha. That made me laugh.
This isn't really about me personally.
But I just hate how people throw around the word like racism/sexist all the time just because someone makes a slightest slur. The meaning of sexism is a hatred for a gender.

If someone makes a joke.
That doesn't mean he hates the other gender.

There is no hatred there. No evil intent on oppressing his girlfriend.

In fact.. my girlfriend actually just texted me this.
Me: Go cook it yourself.
Her: I can't! ;-;
Me: Why not? D:
Her: I like it on the grill. Grilling is a man's job!


... is she really being sexist, or is she just being a smartass?

Remember sexist COMES FROM A HATRED/ANGER TOWARDS THE OPPOSITE GENDER.
Did she say this out of hatred towards me?
No. She didn't.

Learn some fucking context people and stop throwing words around like your throwing pennies in a wishing well.

..Gee, it couldn't be the fact that CONTEXT is hard to DETERMINE, especially on the internet or with strangers you do not know.
Hell, I pull racist and sexist with my black and female (and black-female) friends all the time, but I know they GET them. I do NOT throw such words and jokes around with people that I am sure as hell unaware of will get them or not (like at a new job, or an internet forum).
There, you are enlightened.

So.. you're not smart enough to realize someone is just being a dick for the sake of being a dick?
Kay. That's all I got out that paragraph that you can't think outside your box.

"Well, I don't know that person. Therefor he is sexist"
LOGIC! Also judgmental.

Online? No. And honestly, I doubt that you are either. And with people that throw a casual racist-joke? No. And once again, I seriously doubt your power to always tell the difference either.
And pretty much, it comes down to this: Some stuff you say are hurtful. You shouldn't be hurtful. Unless you know what you say will hurt someone (and sexist/racist remarks do), then don't.

I hate to throw the grow a thicker skin argument. But when it comes to the internet and especially the youtube section of teh webz. Don't comment their if you don't expect to be harassed a little bit.

I hate how (and I swear this only do this in America) this idea came about that you should always have to censor yourself, and make sure you don't offend anyone at all. I find that utter complete bullshit. Everyone is going to offend someone at some point in time some where, some how. Grow a a pair and suck it up.

and honestly.. if you take ANYONE says on the certain places like 4chan. You just need to log off and never come back.

You should hate it, because it's a poor argument. It's poor because you assume people have the same opinions and feelings as you, and if they do not, they need to 'grow a pair and suck it up' or 'grow a thicker skin'. Why don't you 'grow some respect', I might reply.
So no, argument denied. Your opinions and feelings are not more important than others.

...Also, especially on the Escapist, it's poor because it breaks the CoC, namely the 'Don't be a dick'-rule. Many websites have them.

Edit: Removed unnecessary language, though it was rather mild, but hey, I don't know how others might see it.

 

[darlarosa]

To a point that's true the intent, actions, and person are not always indicative of each other. I make racist comments all the time, but it's clear that the intent is to play on stereotypes and that I don't really buy into them. I tell people if they are offended they can offend me back in the same way and I apologize. Sometimes people say things that accidentally hit a chord with some people. Sometimes making a "nigga" joke really actually hurts a person, or making a "get in the kitchen" joke hurts deep down. The problem is with things like that there are many people who feel that certain responses are legitimate.

Online and in person ultimately if you make a sexist/racist/homophobic comment and someone calls you on that, regardless of whether or not it's a joke, don't act like they're in the wrong. They don't know you and the internet does not account for tone, nor do you know them or the things they've had to go through. It's one thing to say certain things around friends because they know you. When you make a stereotyping joke around strangers you are giving them information about you that will interpreted in all likelihood it will be interpreted wrong and it's your fault for thinking "They'll find this funny". When you say certain things to strangers you are telling them "this is how I think" and you may find it unfair, but tough luck. Welcome to the human race.

And honestly...if you make certain jokes all the time, there's probably a kernel of truth that you believe it.

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

To a point that's true the intent, actions, and person are not always indicative of each other. I make racist comments all the time, but it's clear that the intent is to play on stereotypes and that I don't really buy into them. I tell people if they are offended they can offend me back in the same way and I apologize. Sometimes people say things that accidentally hit a chord with some people. Sometimes making a "nigga" joke really actually hurts a person, or making a "get in the kitchen" joke hurts deep down. The problem is with things like that there are many people who feel that certain responses are legitimate.

Online and in person ultimately if you make a sexist/racist/homophobic comment and someone calls you on that, regardless of whether or not it's a joke, don't act like they're in the wrong. They don't know you and the internet does not account for tone, nor do you know them or the things they've had to go through. It's one thing to say certain things around friends because they know you. When you make a stereotyping joke around strangers you are giving them information about you that will interpreted in all likelihood it will be interpreted wrong and it's your fault for thinking "They'll find this funny". When you say certain things to strangers you are telling them "this is how I think" and you may find it unfair, but tough luck. Welcome to the human race.

And honestly...if you make certain jokes all the time, there's probably a kernel of truth that you believe it.

It's not a stupid argument. It's a damn fucking fact. Bullying has always been apart of species and it's a part of growing up. Bullying teaches you many, many lessons about life. (bullying, not harassment.) It also teaches you that even in the real world that are going to be jackasses who are going to make fun of you. (outside of school) Are you seriously okay with a generation of kids that break out crying every time someone calls them a little *****?

Well I am not.

Also your second paragraph.
Stop judging them yo.
But yeah, I do agree with you on your last paragraph, but why is this behavior acceptable?
People have senses of humor, people like certain types of jokes.
It does not make them a sexist/racist person.

What makes them a sexist/racist person is when they actually start taking negative actions towards that group.

Not sitting around a camp fire telling dumb blonde jokes.

 

[Glongpre]

If someone says something racist, they are being racist. It's not a leap to assume that this isn't the only time they are racist.

It doesn't mean they are very racist, but it means they are being at least somewhat racist.

Geh, okey, this is a tad too extreme of a conclusion. Should you keep your jokes to yourself in order to not hurt others you know will take offense? Yes.
Does a joke make you racist/sexist? No. It makes you a man with (at times) improper social-skills.

Well, in a sense if you make racist jokes it means you are not entirely against racism. It is kind of hypocritical otherwise.

 

[Realitycrash]

To a point that's true the intent, actions, and person are not always indicative of each other. I make racist comments all the time, but it's clear that the intent is to play on stereotypes and that I don't really buy into them. I tell people if they are offended they can offend me back in the same way and I apologize. Sometimes people say things that accidentally hit a chord with some people. Sometimes making a "nigga" joke really actually hurts a person, or making a "get in the kitchen" joke hurts deep down. The problem is with things like that there are many people who feel that certain responses are legitimate.

Online and in person ultimately if you make a sexist/racist/homophobic comment and someone calls you on that, regardless of whether or not it's a joke, don't act like they're in the wrong. They don't know you and the internet does not account for tone, nor do you know them or the things they've had to go through. It's one thing to say certain things around friends because they know you. When you make a stereotyping joke around strangers you are giving them information about you that will interpreted in all likelihood it will be interpreted wrong and it's your fault for thinking "They'll find this funny". When you say certain things to strangers you are telling them "this is how I think" and you may find it unfair, but tough luck. Welcome to the human race.

And honestly...if you make certain jokes all the time, there's probably a kernel of truth that you believe it.

It's not a stupid argument. It's a damn fucking fact. Bullying has always been apart of species and it's a part of growing up. Bullying teaches you many, many lessons about life. (bullying, not harassment.) It also teaches you that even in the real world that are going to be jackasses who are going to make fun of you. (outside of school) Are you seriously okay with a generation of kids that break out crying every time someone calls them a little *****?

.

Wait...Your counter-argument is that 'bullying is a part of growing up'? Really..? REALLY? Do you even know what bullying amounts to?
And these people do not 'break down and cry', we get offended. It not only hurts those who hear it, but it hurts you, because these people will/might get a lower opinion of you.
Seriously. Just..Don't do that here. You will get banned so, so fast if you think it is acceptable.

 

[Johanthemonster666]

Ok, so now we have to be psychic and know everyone's intent.
Because intent is magical and makes words not mean things.

No, I don't think so.
Why should I try and determine the intent of every shithead who throws a sexist remark my way?
It's okay for guys to harass female gamers online as long as they don't actually hate women with every fiber of their being?

`Stop calling me sexist if I say a sexist thing!`
Seriously Escapist.

This. I'm a queer dude and I can tell you from experience that it took a while for me to confront my own racism, xenophobia, sexism, interalized homophobia, and transphobia. This does not clear me the responsibility of acting like a decent human being (anonymously or in person) to others (particularly marginalized and oppressed people).

The basis of all racism, sexism and all sorts of 'isms' starts with "I'm not a racist, I'm a great person with high-minded ideals and moral values". Doesn't make dick comments any less insensitive or wrong. Nor does it justify the conditions that gave rise to those ideas in the first place.

 

[Realitycrash]

If someone says something racist, they are being racist. It's not a leap to assume that this isn't the only time they are racist.

It doesn't mean they are very racist, but it means they are being at least somewhat racist.

Geh, okey, this is a tad too extreme of a conclusion. Should you keep your jokes to yourself in order to not hurt others you know will take offense? Yes.
Does a joke make you racist/sexist? No. It makes you a man with (at times) improper social-skills.

Well, in a sense if you make racist jokes it means you are not entirely against racism. It is kind of hypocritical otherwise.

No, it means I am not against humor. Humor (except puns) will always have a 'target'. Someone will ALWAYS be the one laughed 'at' instead of 'with'. I'm an equal-opportunity offended, I laugh at pretty much everything if I know no-one will be offended by it (Pedophilia, gang-rape, genocide, etc). I don't support either. As an example, I find the homophobic right-wing moron Rorschach from Watchmen to be an awesome guy to read about, but I hate his world view.
You really can't equate these things.

 

[The-Traveling-Bard]

To a point that's true the intent, actions, and person are not always indicative of each other. I make racist comments all the time, but it's clear that the intent is to play on stereotypes and that I don't really buy into them. I tell people if they are offended they can offend me back in the same way and I apologize. Sometimes people say things that accidentally hit a chord with some people. Sometimes making a "nigga" joke really actually hurts a person, or making a "get in the kitchen" joke hurts deep down. The problem is with things like that there are many people who feel that certain responses are legitimate.

Online and in person ultimately if you make a sexist/racist/homophobic comment and someone calls you on that, regardless of whether or not it's a joke, don't act like they're in the wrong. They don't know you and the internet does not account for tone, nor do you know them or the things they've had to go through. It's one thing to say certain things around friends because they know you. When you make a stereotyping joke around strangers you are giving them information about you that will interpreted in all likelihood it will be interpreted wrong and it's your fault for thinking "They'll find this funny". When you say certain things to strangers you are telling them "this is how I think" and you may find it unfair, but tough luck. Welcome to the human race.

And honestly...if you make certain jokes all the time, there's probably a kernel of truth that you believe it.

It's not a stupid argument. It's a damn fucking fact. Bullying has always been apart of species and it's a part of growing up. Bullying teaches you many, many lessons about life. (bullying, not harassment.) It also teaches you that even in the real world that are going to be jackasses who are going to make fun of you. (outside of school) Are you seriously okay with a generation of kids that break out crying every time someone calls them a little *****?

.

Wait...Your counter-argument is that 'bullying is a part of growing up'? Really..? REALLY? Do you even know what bullying amounts to?
And these people do not 'break down and cry', we get offended. It not only hurts those who hear it, but it hurts you, because these people will/might get a lower opinion of you.
Seriously. Just..Don't do that here. You will get banned so, so fast if you think it is acceptable.

lol, Oh god! someone has a different opinion than me! BAN HIM!

Good thinking.

Also YES bullying is part of growing up.
What you see today is not just normal bullying but it's harassment.

There's a big, BIG difference.

 

[wearesoneutralthatithurts]

If someone says something racist, they are being racist. It's not a leap to assume that this isn't the only time they are racist.

It doesn't mean they are very racist, but it means they are being at least somewhat racist.

Geh, okey, this is a tad too extreme of a conclusion. Should you keep your jokes to yourself in order to not hurt others you know will take offense? Yes.
Does a joke make you racist/sexist? No. It makes you a man with (at times) improper social-skills.

racism, homophobia, sexism&co is no joke, its assholery. if you think ist funny to hurt people and your fun is more worth than emotions of maybe even hundreds of people(which get shit like that every fucking day-so ist seriously not funny for them), than you aren't funny, you are a prick.
And hopefully decent people don't like pricks which conseíder themself so much more relevant than people they dont know (so its okay to hurt them, they dont exist in your mind-space anyway)

 

[Realitycrash]

To a point that's true the intent, actions, and person are not always indicative of each other. I make racist comments all the time, but it's clear that the intent is to play on stereotypes and that I don't really buy into them. I tell people if they are offended they can offend me back in the same way and I apologize. Sometimes people say things that accidentally hit a chord with some people. Sometimes making a "nigga" joke really actually hurts a person, or making a "get in the kitchen" joke hurts deep down. The problem is with things like that there are many people who feel that certain responses are legitimate.

Online and in person ultimately if you make a sexist/racist/homophobic comment and someone calls you on that, regardless of whether or not it's a joke, don't act like they're in the wrong. They don't know you and the internet does not account for tone, nor do you know them or the things they've had to go through. It's one thing to say certain things around friends because they know you. When you make a stereotyping joke around strangers you are giving them information about you that will interpreted in all likelihood it will be interpreted wrong and it's your fault for thinking "They'll find this funny". When you say certain things to strangers you are telling them "this is how I think" and you may find it unfair, but tough luck. Welcome to the human race.

And honestly...if you make certain jokes all the time, there's probably a kernel of truth that you believe it.

It's not a stupid argument. It's a damn fucking fact. Bullying has always been apart of species and it's a part of growing up. Bullying teaches you many, many lessons about life. (bullying, not harassment.) It also teaches you that even in the real world that are going to be jackasses who are going to make fun of you. (outside of school) Are you seriously okay with a generation of kids that break out crying every time someone calls them a little *****?

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Wait...Your counter-argument is that 'bullying is a part of growing up'? Really..? REALLY? Do you even know what bullying amounts to?
And these people do not 'break down and cry', we get offended. It not only hurts those who hear it, but it hurts you, because these people will/might get a lower opinion of you.
Seriously. Just..Don't do that here. You will get banned so, so fast if you think it is acceptable.

lol, Oh god! someone has a different opinion than me! BAN HIM!

Good thinking.

Also YES bullying is part of growing up.
What you see today is not just normal bullying but it's harassment.

There's a big, BIG difference.

Yes, the rules are quite clearly on my side. Tell poor jokes that offend others, and you will get warned. Which will get you banned. Which I do not wish for you to be. It's a fair warning.

Eh, you and I have a very different view of what the concept of 'bullying' means, obviously. Either way, I don't support it, especially not as a teaching-method for people to not grow up to be 'little bitches'.
It's not allowed here either, by the way.