The Dragon Age 2 Preorder Bonus Cavalcade Continues

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manythings said:
ZeppMan217 said:
manythings said:
ZeppMan217 said:
So you'd punch EA for selling BW's milk? I mean, games.
What's wrong with it? Is it the fault of the staff at BioWare that they want to be paid for their work? Why should what they make be given away or worse be sold by another party without them recieving any of the proceeds?
...Say, do you like CoD: MW2?
I don't even know if I've played it. FPS's don't offer the replayability I like and I've gotten sick of "Grizzle T. McGrizzlington's never ending Surly Military Gun Man adventures".
Damn. I already planned to get away with "good day, sir" :3
Did you notice that average price on quadruple AAAAA...+n titles increased by 10$?
 

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This is smart, this is how you fight against used games. Instead of punishing people for buying used, you reward them for buying new, while also offering the content available to the new buyers for free with purchase, to the used buyers for a price. Just the signature edition alone was enough to get me to preorder Dragon Age 2, but now with all this free extra stuff, I'm going to suggest to every one of my friends to preorder this one. Can't wait to slaughter me some Darkspawn in March!
 

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ZeppMan217 said:
manythings said:
ZeppMan217 said:
manythings said:
ZeppMan217 said:
So you'd punch EA for selling BW's milk? I mean, games.
What's wrong with it? Is it the fault of the staff at BioWare that they want to be paid for their work? Why should what they make be given away or worse be sold by another party without them recieving any of the proceeds?
...Say, do you like CoD: MW2?
I don't even know if I've played it. FPS's don't offer the replayability I like and I've gotten sick of "Grizzle T. McGrizzlington's never ending Surly Military Gun Man adventures".
Damn. I already planned to get away with "good day, sir" :3
Did you notice that average price on quadruple AAAAA...+n titles increased by 10$?
Not so much over here. The demand for games is enough for stores to open to sell but not enough that they can just charge what they want. There are times you can get games that are less than a month old for half the regular price (?60-ish).
 

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This is a step closer to what I want from DLC. I want devs to give most or all of the DLC for free to people who buy the game new (since DLC is a way to get money froom used buyers, and I rarely buy used. If I do, the game usually doesn't have DLC as it is older).

Can't wait until this comes out. I preordered it at BestBuy.
 

ZeppMan217

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manythings said:
ZeppMan217 said:
manythings said:
ZeppMan217 said:
manythings said:
ZeppMan217 said:
So you'd punch EA for selling BW's milk? I mean, games.
What's wrong with it? Is it the fault of the staff at BioWare that they want to be paid for their work? Why should what they make be given away or worse be sold by another party without them recieving any of the proceeds?
...Say, do you like CoD: MW2?
I don't even know if I've played it. FPS's don't offer the replayability I like and I've gotten sick of "Grizzle T. McGrizzlington's never ending Surly Military Gun Man adventures".
Damn. I already planned to get away with "good day, sir" :3
Did you notice that average price on quadruple AAAAA...+n titles increased by 10$?
Not so much over here. The demand for games is enough for stores to open to sell but not enough that they can just charge what they want. There are times you can get games that are less than a month old for half the regular price (?60-ish).
You see, they already charge more money for the same...stuff. With DLCs they can get even more money.
In the past they used to work it out by releasing fat (like, positively fat), price-y expansion packs. Now, Pubs/Devs can simply throw only a piece of a pie to you, like 3 weapons for what, prolly, seems to be a reasonable price - about 2 bucks (160 BW points). BUT, you can only buy a five bucks voucher (i.e. 400 BW points). See what they did?
 

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ZeppMan217 said:
You see, they already charge more money for the same...stuff. With DLCs they can get even more money.
In the past they used to work it out by releasing fat (like, positively fat), price-y expansion packs. Now, Pubs/Devs can simply throw only a piece of a pie to you, like 3 weapons for what, prolly, seems to be a reasonable price - about 2 bucks (160 BW points). BUT, you can only buy a five bucks voucher (i.e. 400 BW points). See what they did?
Are you only ever going to buy DLC once? Do the BW points expire? If neither of those is true then it's only a problem right now but the second the next DLC you would buy appears then your issue disappears. On the same note wasn't it Microsoft who were pushing to make sure you could buy no less than $10 worth of points for XBL? You never NEED any of the DLC but I wanted it and they provided a means to recieve at a better overall price.
 
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sir.rutthed said:
Anyone else getting kinda nervous about all this preorder bonus business? I mean, it almost seems like they're trying to cash in on the hype for fear that it's a terrible game and won't sell well. I hope I'm over analyzing this, but that's the impression I'm getting.
i would agree to this, but i watched those gameplay videos and honestly it looked pretty polished from both angles (the action view and the tactical style)

so I'm sure the game will be at least decent, because biowares strengths certainly aren't gameplay..and I was decently impressed with it.
 

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3nimac said:
What kind of an idiot is swayed to throw money at a game for a virtual shield and sword
What kind of idiot is swayed by a collectible that sits on a shelf gathering dust?
 

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This is getting really ridicoulous imo. I have preordered it before the january 11nth so I get a lot of stuff. yey
 
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Omnific One said:
I'm wondering if all the free stuff is to get people to preorder before they find out how bad it is. Just a thought.

On a side note, I'm buying this game used to protest the amount of content they are cutting for Day 1 DLC for peorders only. It's ridiculous.
DO you realize that it won't make a single difference to bioware?

their pre-orders are obviously pretty buffed up by now, and your used sale doesn't make a difference to them in the long run, therefore what your doing is proving that what THEY are doing are doing it for the exact reason that you are boycotting. And obviously your going to have to wait around like a hawk to find the person who trades it in used.

I seriously don't see what is so wrong for a company trying to get paid for their work, and this is just one more incentive for them to try and knock people out of buying used, and if you don't buy used then hey, full game for you then just like was intended from the start, if you buy used, well, you don't get that certain % of the game.
 

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I'm getting the Signature edition so it's all good, but I wouldn't mind so much if I didn't.

That said, when Mass Effect 3 comes out, I will get the most ridiculous version they sell. I'll take the one with the flipping night-vision Volus outfit if there is one. There is no limit to how stupidly I will act to get hold of that game.
 

ZeppMan217

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manythings said:
ZeppMan217 said:
You see, they already charge more money for the same...stuff. With DLCs they can get even more money.
In the past they used to work it out by releasing fat (like, positively fat), price-y expansion packs. Now, Pubs/Devs can simply throw only a piece of a pie to you, like 3 weapons for what, prolly, seems to be a reasonable price - about 2 bucks (160 BW points). BUT, you can only buy a five bucks voucher (i.e. 400 BW points). See what they did?
Are you only ever going to buy DLC once? Do the BW points expire? If neither of those is true then it's only a problem right now but the second the next DLC you would buy appears then your issue disappears. On the same note wasn't it Microsoft who were pushing to make sure you could buy no less than $10 worth of points for XBL? You never NEED any of the DLC but I wanted it and they provided a means to recieve at a better overall price.
They don't expire but will this next DLC be of any interest to me is another question.
And "better overall price"? PSN offers it by selling DLCs for bucks. They offer even more, a choice: to buy all DLCs or only some of them, without additional fees or hopes, that somewhen, in a not too distant future, something that might or might not interest me will come out and I'll be able to buy it...Oh, wait, I need more 50 points but there's only a 400 points option :)
 

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Shoggoth2588 said:
All of this incentive to preorder the game and, to buy new copies when it does come out makes me really suspect that Bioware and EA have little faith in this title.
Or they want to use the carrot approach to pirating instead of the stick approach after learning their lesson with Spore.
TsunamiWombat said:
sir.rutthed said:
Anyone else getting kinda nervous about all this preorder bonus business? I mean, it almost seems like they're trying to cash in on the hype for fear that it's a terrible game and won't sell well. I hope I'm over analyzing this, but that's the impression I'm getting.
I considered that. Then I remembered, rolol, it's bioware.

BIOWARE. LET ME PREORDER OFF OF STEAM. I AM NOT FUCKING AROUND WITH ALL THESE WEBSITES JUST PUT IT ON STEAM!
Ummm, it is on Steam. Hell a few days ago one of the start-up adds was about DA2.
 

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gmaverick019 said:
Omnific One said:
I'm wondering if all the free stuff is to get people to preorder before they find out how bad it is. Just a thought.

On a side note, I'm buying this game used to protest the amount of content they are cutting for Day 1 DLC for peorders only. It's ridiculous.
DO you realize that it won't make a single difference to bioware?

their pre-orders are obviously pretty buffed up by now, and your used sale doesn't make a difference to them in the long run, therefore what your doing is proving that what THEY are doing are doing it for the exact reason that you are boycotting. And obviously your going to have to wait around like a hawk to find the person who trades it in used.

I seriously don't see what is so wrong for a company trying to get paid for their work, and this is just one more incentive for them to try and knock people out of buying used, and if you don't buy used then hey, full game for you then just like was intended from the start, if you buy used, well, you don't get that certain % of the game.
No, I would have bought the game new normally. I have no issue with them restricting content for new games, but preorders just forces people to blindly buy something without seeing reviews. It's incredibly underhanded to make the bonus content so much when I would have bought the game for $60 anyway, just after it came out.
 

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manythings said:
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Ah, a Bio-boy. Fun.

Helpful hint: I couldn't care less about the lack of a few crappy pieces of preorder armor. I know they would definitely prefer it if I bought it new, hence why I am buying it used.

Therefore, this point:

Oh wait, BioWare don't care since they aren't actually getting a cut for trade-in resales, hence the policy.
doesn't make sense as they DO care if I buy it new versus used. If they didn't why would there be Project Ten Dollar?
Well yes, but if you are hell-bent on it then you are basically taking from them, so why should they care what you do or don't get? 0% goes to a dev on any trade-in so any dev you like gets less, makes less and produces less. It's like shooting the cows on a farm THEN milking them.
Copied from my reply to another misinformed post:

No, I would have bought the game new normally. I have no issue with them restricting content for new games, but preorders just forces people to blindly buy something without seeing reviews. It's incredibly underhanded to make the bonus content so much when I would have bought the game for $60 anyway, just after it came out.

I'm willing to spend the same $60 dollars, I just want to make an informed decision based on reviews. In essence, I am getting punished for not blindly buying the game.
 

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manythings said:
3nimac said:
What kind of an idiot is swayed to throw money at a game for a virtual shield and sword
What kind of idiot is swayed by a collectible that sits on a shelf gathering dust?
That kind of a collectible is a different thing. It is its own point. You can display it to your friends, decorate your bathroom with it or whatever. But its kind of ridiculous to buy the collectible just so you can watch a movie when it gets released. For everyone. Can a sword and a store that sells swords really compare to the (possible) grandness of the game and a thousand swords you will find in it?
 

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Seeing as I haven't got any dlc for origins, bought awakening or even finished the story of origins once, it would seem unlikely for me to pre-order this game.

By the time I get round to wanting to play it, it'll be ultimate edition and way cheaper then release date price.

(unless there's some sort of combat overhaul, I think that's the main thing stopping me enjoying origins so much. No idea why as I enjoyed KotOR)
 

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sir.rutthed said:
Anyone else getting kinda nervous about all this preorder bonus business? I mean, it almost seems like they're trying to cash in on the hype for fear that it's a terrible game and won't sell well. I hope I'm over analyzing this, but that's the impression I'm getting.
EA controls the promotions, but Bioware is making the game. Consider your fears laid to rest.

obscurumlux01 said:
People are really sheep sometimes.
Let me break this down for the sheep here.

Its not 'free' if you paid for it.
Its NOT 'free' if you paid for it.
Its NOT 'FREE' if you PAID for it already!.

Removing content from the final product (hence day zero/one 'DLC') is an absurdity that I can't believe people tolerate.
This isn't a 'pre-order bonus' thing. Its not 'free' stuff. You already paid for it and its just locked away/removed from the final disk so they could do their promotional stuff.

You're all paying for 'mods' that used to be free!
Enjoy it then, enjoy emptying your wallets to feed these corrupted marketers. Be the sheep that you are.

/facepalm
While you're busily preaching to the unwashed masses, have you ever considered that if they couldn't offer this content as pre-order bonuses, they wouldn't have spent time developing it at all?
 

manythings

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3nimac said:
manythings said:
3nimac said:
What kind of an idiot is swayed to throw money at a game for a virtual shield and sword
What kind of idiot is swayed by a collectible that sits on a shelf gathering dust?
That kind of a collectible is a different thing. It is its own point. You can display it to your friends, decorate your bathroom with it or whatever. But its kind of ridiculous to buy the collectible just so you can watch a movie when it gets released. For everyone. Can a sword and a store that sells swords really compare to the (possible) grandness of the game and a thousand swords you will find in it?
I'm not getting what you mean.