I'm pretty sure you just right-click it. If not, try holding shift down while right-clicking.80Maxwell08 said:
The Elder Scrolls modders amaze me.
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There are really no other games that allow you to do whatever you want and shoot lighting at things. Just name another fantasy open world game that gives you the freedom to go anywhere form the begging of the game. The elder scrolls games also have large amounts of lore behind them, which combined with the open world aspect gives you games that people (like me) can get really interested in. Which explains why people are so eager to mod out the bugs and fix the combat in them, because it makes a already good game (In my opinion) great and fun to play.
Ok I'll try that soon thanks. Felt incredibly anti climatic to stop playing a game because my character picked up so much stuff in 5 minutes he couldn't move anymore.Freaky Lou said:
Well the moding community i don't know about i have it for 360. But from what iv seen I like the people who make new locations, quest and make some cool looking armor is good for it....BUUUUUUT The people who make the girls have better hair and bigger boobs and make them have outfits with cleavage exploiting get ups and the nude mod. I hate that side its really just a bunch of perverts who faps to stupid stuff and have no real interest in making a game better but rather for just spank material.
Despite TES games being released rather, well, broken they are HUGE games.
There's something addictive about having a game that lets you play it YOUR WAY.
You can be anything from a thief to a warlock or something in-between.
All the while you're exploring this MASSIVE world that, during their initial release, are graphically AMAZING.
That's not even getting into things like being able to read books that can be kind of 'cool' or how you can play (and beat) TES3/4/5 like GTA if you like.
There's something addictive about having a game that lets you play it YOUR WAY.
You can be anything from a thief to a warlock or something in-between.
All the while you're exploring this MASSIVE world that, during their initial release, are graphically AMAZING.
That's not even getting into things like being able to read books that can be kind of 'cool' or how you can play (and beat) TES3/4/5 like GTA if you like.
It was meant to be an extreme case of what you said, which was "I've heard that the Elder Scrolls games are shit and am assuming that's right, so why do people still like the series?"80Maxwell08 said:
I reread it and felt like a douche so I deleted (but not soon enough, and I apologize for coming off as the stereotypical forum douche in that first section). xD
Anyway. My point overall was that even though there are mods/unofficial patches and even though there are people who have experienced horrible bugs, that is not the experience of everyone who had played the game (I'd even hazard to say that the majority of players will not have experienced a major bug, AKA a bug that halted story progress or ruined a saved game or froze the console/computer).
I"m not understanding this last section. Are you saying that no one has said that the Elder Scrolls overall isn't as poorly written as some have said? It isn't. Oblivion had ideas poking through (although it is the weakest by far). Shivering Isles was outstanding game writing, in my opinion. Morrowind was interesting up until a point. Skyrim's main quest had an interesting story with some well written characters (the questions asked and responses by the Greybeard's leader in particular made me stop to think after the conversation).
I'm not sure what the third one is (after writing and bugs), though, because I'm too tired to back through and read. Feel free to reply and tell me, though. I'll respond eventually. xD
Modern Warfare is a samey shooter, god of war phoned it in around halfway through 2 with the story degenerating into "I. WILL. END. EVERYTHING". Arkham asylum (and city) had irritating happy slap feeling insubstantial combat (it was cool, everything felt a bit slap on the cheek though...perhaps thats just me), Okay DoW is awesome (Soulstorm is a fucking abomination), Prince Of Persia...got obnoxiously hard but perhaps the problem i have with it was me being thick, KOTOR...other than some horrible bugs is a very good RPG and i can't hammer down any issues gameplay wise, so fair play aaaaand...Mario Kart. Bugger. Got me.irishda said:
Edit: Oh, D2. Good game, got boring as buggery around the Hell playthrough. Same thing, harder things to kill felt a bit..bleh. But i did come into playing it when it was ancient already. Spoiled modern gamer and all that (One of those plebs who started at n64)
It might be shift and a regular click, too. I need to play Oblivion again sometime.80Maxwell08 said:
Why do so many people think I hate them? I was just asking about the modders. Grief this happens with every single one of my posts. Hold on I'm going to add a note at the beginning unless I can think of a better rewording.lovest harding said:
Because there is nothing quite like a Bethesda open world game. Nothing else really comes close.
Their fundametal strengths easily make up for their superficial flaws.
Their fundametal strengths easily make up for their superficial flaws.
I don't think you hate me or the Elder Scroll community. I think the idea that the assumption that what you heard is in fact the true experience for all who played the game (that the games are horribly bugged and badly written) is incorrect.80Maxwell08 said:
My first line was douchey (which is why I deleted it and apologized in my other post). But I didn't mean to imply that I was hating on you. I just felt you were being unfair (and I felt that the post came across as saying "Certain people say these games are shit, so they must be, so why do other people still like them?")
EDIT: I will say, though, I didn't realize the entire thing was meant to be solely about modders. I read the modders section as being just another aspect of the community rather than the point of the post. Sorry about that.
God of War overuses quick time events in gameplay and had a story that went downhill at a 90-degree angle in the third installment; Modern Warfare has truncuated single-player campaigns with enough plot holes to sustain a sizable population of prairie dogs; Arkham Asylum had horribly cliched exchanges of dialogue at every turn and one thoroughly repetitive boss fight that showed up about eight times; Diablo 2's gameplay consisted mainly of finding items with higher numbers than the numbers on your current items, all for the purpose of finding even higher numbered items later; Warrior Within turned the character of the Prince into something I tried to convince myself was a parody but, as it turns out, wasn't, and was in general an immature "adult" oriented game that sent the franchise into a spiral that Two Thrones didn't really recover from; the main draw of Little Big Planet is user-generated content, and I think we're all familiar with Sturgeon's law as applied to that; never played Mechwarrior; KOTOR uses the arbitrary good/bad dichotomy to give you the choice between being Hitler and being Charlie Chaplin; Mario Kart relies on rubber-banding and items to severly undercut the advantage of those who are actually good at the game.irishda said:
And yet I would consider all of the above to be good games. Great games, some of them. There is no work ever produced that can not be argued to have flaws; anything, given the correct assumptions, can be clearly demonstrated to be crap. Whether or not that claim of "crap" holds water for you depends on whether or not you have the same initial opinions. Different people like and dislike different things, by virtue of being different people.
I actually meant why do people think I hate the games. Sorry I came off that way. Also I didn't think your post was douchy (though if I took a few days to dissect and analyze it until I understood it I might have though by then I might have stopped caring).lovest harding said:
Just that first part was. xD80Maxwell08 said:
Also I added this edit to that post:
EDIT: I will say, though, I didn't realize the entire thing was meant to be solely about modders. I read the modders section as being just another aspect of the community rather than the point of the post. Sorry about that.
I feel like a major dick to overreact out of misunderstanding now. Sorry.
You're probably the only person in existence who's criticized Arkham asylum's combat. And I was mentioning the original Modern Warfare, one of the first shooters that wasn't set during WWII or Vietnam. It's easy to call it a samey now, but that's only because it spawned the whole current shooter generation.Versuvius said:
No problem now we got that cleared up. Just a simple misunderstanding. Hopefully no one else will misunderstand now. Though since this has been happening for a while now I doubt it.lovest harding said:
