I told myself I wasn't going to be fooled into getting an MMO by the CGI trailer like I was for The Old Republic. I prefer in game trailers that actually resemble the appearance and combat of the game.
Thanks for the effort you put in your reply, but I am an Elder Scrolls fan, and I do know what is happening, who the factions are, and about all the races. My comments were more towards how the trailer was so generic that there was nothing predominately Elder Scrolls about it.Apointicus said:If you've researched the game a bit (http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/game-guide) it's really easy to tell apart what the races and factions are.Well, impressive as it was, I couldn't tell any of the factions apart. I couldn't even tell what race was what.
Nords and Imperials are all/or predominately white and the Redguards are all black, im pretty sure its so people can tell which race is which, and it sticks to the general look of the races. As for the following races being the main attraction...Why did they have to go for generic white males (obviously being Imperials and/or Nords) as the main attraction, and then either a Bosmer or Altmer female that just looked like a person with pointy ears?
- The Daggerfall Covenant is ruled by a Breton (Redguards and Orcs belong in this faction)
- The Ebonheart Pact is ruled by a Nord (Dark Elves and Argonians)
- The Aldmeri Legion is ruled by, who else, the High Elves (Wood elves, Khajiit)
Notice a pattern?
As for the elves, the female is definitely Altmer. Altmers are known for spellcraft and Bosmers are known for their expertise in Archery. I'm guessing the people who were following the Altmer were all Bosmers, since they generally like hunting (How many Bosmer archers have you encountered that LOVE hunting?) and their armor makes them look like hunters, there is the possibility that one of the people in that armor is Khajiit but with the blur effects in the video its really hard to tell.
Apparently in Lore, Bretons are known for being really deadly assassins(This was pointed out by a Youtube comment, take it or leave it.) Also, if an Argonian was the assassin it would not make sense, the Argonians belong in a different faction.Volan said:Why couldn't the badass guy with the slick bow and knife skills have been an Argonian?
My apologies and thanks.Volan said:Thanks for the effort you put in your reply, but I am an Elder Scrolls fan, and I do know what is happening, who the factions are, and about all the races. My comments were more towards how the trailer was so generic that there was nothing predominately Elder Scrolls about it.Apointicus said:If you've researched the game a bit (http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/game-guide) it's really easy to tell apart what the races and factions are.Well, impressive as it was, I couldn't tell any of the factions apart. I couldn't even tell what race was what.
Nords and Imperials are all/or predominately white and the Redguards are all black, im pretty sure its so people can tell which race is which, and it sticks to the general look of the races. As for the following races being the main attraction...Why did they have to go for generic white males (obviously being Imperials and/or Nords) as the main attraction, and then either a Bosmer or Altmer female that just looked like a person with pointy ears?
- The Daggerfall Covenant is ruled by a Breton (Redguards and Orcs belong in this faction)
- The Ebonheart Pact is ruled by a Nord (Dark Elves and Argonians)
- The Aldmeri Legion is ruled by, who else, the High Elves (Wood elves, Khajiit)
Notice a pattern?
As for the elves, the female is definitely Altmer. Altmers are known for spellcraft and Bosmers are known for their expertise in Archery. I'm guessing the people who were following the Altmer were all Bosmers, since they generally like hunting (How many Bosmer archers have you encountered that LOVE hunting?) and their armor makes them look like hunters, there is the possibility that one of the people in that armor is Khajiit but with the blur effects in the video its really hard to tell.
Apparently in Lore, Bretons are known for being really deadly assassins(This was pointed out by a Youtube comment, take it or leave it.) Also, if an Argonian was the assassin it would not make sense, the Argonians belong in a different faction.Volan said:Why couldn't the badass guy with the slick bow and knife skills have been an Argonian?
Sorry, but I'm kind of like, "yeah.....I know. I too am a fan of the series."
I take it you liked the trailer as well?
No, you'll be able to play every race except the Imperials afaik. And there is an Argonian in the cinematic, no Khajiits in the cinematic I think. Also, I highly doubt the game will be a "generic fantasy setting with the TES name lazily slapped onto it" as the devs are actually working really hard in this game, i've already put a link to this in an earlier post, but check out Jesse Cox's review on the Alpha version of the game, what he says is very promising that this game will be great. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp0ykvotEIsanquin said:This better not be a preview of all the races in the game. As if that's true, then this will just be a generic fantasy setting with the TES name lazily slapped onto it. No Khajiit and Argonians, and elves and such looking very generic and nothing like in the TES games...yea, not looking good. It would really, really not be a TES game any more if all you could play was nords, imperials and altmer. (I think?) The three people circling each other in the end, I mean.
I like it a lot better now that I've seen it more than once, definitely. And after watching the Alpha review you posted earlier:Apointicus said:My apologies and thanks.But most of what you said made me think that you couldn't tell which race is which. But other than that yes, Honestly I didn't really think the trailer was all that generic despite being similar to other trailers, it was about the Alliances and the war and what better way to show it than...well, the Alliances going to war.
Oh, and I still got the Elder Scrolls vibe. The trailer I feel is showing you how different TES:O is going to be. It's an MMO, so the experience is going to be so so drastically changed(Captain Obvious STRIKES AGAIN! more at 11.)
I'm definitely more excited to see it in action. It seems the game is far more Elder Scrolls than everyone's fearing right now. The combat A.I. sounds particularly awesome.Apointicus said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp0ykvotEI
I don't blame people for fearing the worst (I was one of them,) as we all know most MMO's just copy the WoW formula (which is not a bad thing, mind)and not many try to innovate the genre, only Guild Wars 2 is an MMO that comes to mind that was innovative or different. Many people would just think that this is going to be a heavily Hotkey-based game that doesn't feel like Elder Scrolls gameplay at all, but right now it sounds like they just simply improved aspects of the MMO genre and taped as much of the EC into it, which is exactly what they should be doing. =DVolan said:I like it a lot better now that I've seen it more than once, definitely. And after watching the Alpha review you posted earlier:Apointicus said:My apologies and thanks.But most of what you said made me think that you couldn't tell which race is which. But other than that yes, Honestly I didn't really think the trailer was all that generic despite being similar to other trailers, it was about the Alliances and the war and what better way to show it than...well, the Alliances going to war.
Oh, and I still got the Elder Scrolls vibe. The trailer I feel is showing you how different TES:O is going to be. It's an MMO, so the experience is going to be so so drastically changed(Captain Obvious STRIKES AGAIN! more at 11.)
I'm definitely more excited to see it in action. It seems the game is far more Elder Scrolls than everyone's fearing right now. The combat A.I. sounds particularly awesome.Apointicus said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp0ykvotEI
No offense, but you're jumping to conclusions way too fast and judging the game on a cinematic which was not meant to be focused on the main story. The game is going to have common MMO aspects that you see in almost every other MMO, but it's not going to be a WoW Clone, far from it.Lil_Rimmy said:My god... this makes me sad.
I mean, hell, I have always wished for the Elder Scrolls to have a co-op, so that me and my buddy could save The Imperial City, or defend a castle, or anything in these amazing games, and yeah, I have also sometimes wished for an MMO. Imagine a bunch of people holing up in a castle, setting ambushes for the people who cross near there. Imagine that a couple of people banded together, and with the help of the guard, pushed the bandits out of the castle.
Imagine, being a swindling merchant, travelling to Anvil or Whiterun or even Vivec city, to sell your amazing West Dickens (cough cough reference) tonics to all of the towns folk. Imagine living just out of the Imperial City, and heading into town to sell your crops. Taking the money back to buy more, only to then be invaded by some ra- er... goblins and invisible bears (fuck I loved that quest XD)
What would you do? Would you run, leaving behind everything? Would you fight? Would you leave to find a worthy adventurer, who would slay the Level 5 beasts invading your Castle. (A man's home is his castle.)
(Holy shit the references in this post.)
But all of this, everything I wished would happen, all are played out like any Elder Scrolls game. Same combat, same skills, same people, same everything.
What I do not want is a rip-off MMO which completely changes the style of the game to "Generic MMO press 1-2-3."
I wanted it to be like Skyrim, charging in and hitting Mouse Button 1 to attack, swinging your axe. Not like WoW, running in and pressing 1 to cast Fireball. Then waiting. Then pressing 1 to cast Fireball.
I am just so sad that instead of an epic, open, multi-conitent Elder Scrolls game, we are getting something completely different, with the Elder Scrolls name plastered on.
The biggest thing for me was connecting to the world of Elder Scrolls. Frankly that just doesn't happen in the kind of run around accept quests get wolf hearts jump on lamp post hand in wolf hearts run out of town kind of MMO.
Yeah, the trailer was pretty generic, but so was the Cyberpunk 2077 one. The whole "Slow-motion-camera-moving-dramatic-shots-and-cool-looking-stuff" styles been done so many times as well.Look on the bright side: At least you can now show someone this 5-minute video and save them 2 hours of watching 300.
Yes, it's horribly generic and full of "PHWOAAAARRRR!! Look how badass this is!!!" Just a while ago, we had the Cyberpunk 2077 trailer, and it at least took a shot at originality. This one looks like a pre-made trailer you can paste onto any high fantasy title. Hell, maybe that's what it is. Two Steps From Hell specializes in generic trailer music, and Blur took the next logical step.
If that's super generic fantasy crap, then I'll take more of that.SajuukKhar said:all I saw was some super generic fantasy crap.