The end of gaming
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Why would people NOT want to play a perfect game?
And anyway, perfection is unnatainable, so there will never be a perfect game. There eventually may be a point where games are close to perfection but there will always be room for imporvement.
And anyway, perfection is unnatainable, so there will never be a perfect game. There eventually may be a point where games are close to perfection but there will always be room for imporvement.
That wont ever happen, because people will still make crappy games for people to hate.
Plus, not everyone likes the same games, so there will never be a perfect game that everyone will love.
But - if they do make the perfect game, I doubt they would stop playing it.. Because it's perfect.
Plus, not everyone likes the same games, so there will never be a perfect game that everyone will love.
But - if they do make the perfect game, I doubt they would stop playing it.. Because it's perfect.
There are always new places in gaming to explore, more creative minds. Everyones tastes are different as well, so I'm not sure this future you predict will exist.
Not going to happen.
Chess hasn't changed for hundreds of years, people still play it en masse. Old games will eventually die out as the technology to operate them gradually vanishes. Although emulators will slow the process down.
As for new games becoming perfect? Unlikely, have you seen the amounts of crap the videogame industry produces, perfection will never happen.
Chess hasn't changed for hundreds of years, people still play it en masse. Old games will eventually die out as the technology to operate them gradually vanishes. Although emulators will slow the process down.
As for new games becoming perfect? Unlikely, have you seen the amounts of crap the videogame industry produces, perfection will never happen.
I don't think gaming will survive past another generation.. Well, at least consoles won't.
The problem is that around 80% of gamers are almost never happy with games that come out now'er days. Everyone believes they're a licensed gamer reviewer and instead trying to enjoy something, they much rather look for every single flaw (or what they believe to be a flaw). Storylines in games are a perfect example. Why this comes up as a hot topic for almost every game in the past two generations is beyond me. Video games are not movies; they're not written by movie writers, and they're not directed by Stephen Speilburgs. Voice acting and dialogue follow the same paths.
Secondly, comes the issue with single player campaigns. How often do you hear people complain about them? All fucking time! "It's too short!" "Uninspiring!" "Too many cutscenes!" "boss fights suck!" etc. I'm going to go off and do something I've never done. Defend Halo 3. Exactly how many of you REALLY bought Halo 3 for the single player? Was 'finishing the fight' a large part of the money you spent at launch? Halo is a franchise that prides itself on multi-player, and it does just that.
Third and lastly, Fanboyism (/girlism in rare cases). I'm not even going to go into that and just tell you to watch the now famous Adam Sesslar Soapbox fanboy rant on Killzone 2.
The problem is that around 80% of gamers are almost never happy with games that come out now'er days. Everyone believes they're a licensed gamer reviewer and instead trying to enjoy something, they much rather look for every single flaw (or what they believe to be a flaw). Storylines in games are a perfect example. Why this comes up as a hot topic for almost every game in the past two generations is beyond me. Video games are not movies; they're not written by movie writers, and they're not directed by Stephen Speilburgs. Voice acting and dialogue follow the same paths.
Secondly, comes the issue with single player campaigns. How often do you hear people complain about them? All fucking time! "It's too short!" "Uninspiring!" "Too many cutscenes!" "boss fights suck!" etc. I'm going to go off and do something I've never done. Defend Halo 3. Exactly how many of you REALLY bought Halo 3 for the single player? Was 'finishing the fight' a large part of the money you spent at launch? Halo is a franchise that prides itself on multi-player, and it does just that.
Third and lastly, Fanboyism (/girlism in rare cases). I'm not even going to go into that and just tell you to watch the now famous Adam Sesslar Soapbox fanboy rant on Killzone 2.
Well, considering the perfect game to me will involve a chip in my brain that makes games the equivalent of the Matrix, I imagine I'll quit reality before I'll quit games.
What I would love to see games do over the next decade is to physically involve the player in a Lawnmower Man style full body experience... have full buildings to play in and a VR headset, like Quazar in a virtual world.
Now THAT would rock
Now THAT would rock
You can't really perfect a medium such as gaming. Sure you could make games that were incredibly good or incredibly realistic or many other things, but perfection is too... well absolute a concept in order to be a plausible achievment.
Thats ironic cause i personally never seemed to find flaws in games, well most games, until i joined forums such as this one.Syphonz said:
Before then i only had one friend who'd pick flaws with a game, and i just assumed he was a whiny ass who complained when he got stuck.
OP: Perfect games may one day come to exist, its possible. But then they'll always be different variations of games in perfect format.
example, if you had a perfect RPG format down. What of the plot etc? You could be in space, have a fantasy, locations of plot style of characters etc. List goes on with the mass of variables taken into consideration with any story, let alone an interactive one like in videogames.
=] So no, if perfect games arrive, developers will still stay busy.
Oh and there will always be independant developers making stupid games for a few laughs. So i see no reason why we as a community would cease to play, and escape reality.
first off. "perfect" is a subjective. it changes for everyone. some people think tetris was the perfect game, some think halo. sense perfection changes from person to person, that argument was DOA.
now the end of gaming as you say wont come because of the "perfect" game. the end of gaming wont come untill the world blows up. but once again the end changes from person to person. I personally see the end of gaming coming because of the influx of this Casual Gaming bullshit. I blame this on Nintendo. the other down fall is the fact that gaming has gone way to Mainstream. I blame this on Microsoft. because of these 2. games with good stories. i mean really good, make you think stories are few and far between. our standard of a good story has been lowered that people think halo had a wonderful story. In the beginning i was really happy to hear and see more people playing games. people i never thought would play games playing. but because of this. the industry has become predictable. there are fewer original IPs then there use to be and award winning, long running games have become dull because the writers are trying to please everyone. It would be one thing if this were something like sports, or something like that. but this is a creative field that is having a lot of the creativity choked out of it because of the casual and mainstream crowds.
now the end of gaming as you say wont come because of the "perfect" game. the end of gaming wont come untill the world blows up. but once again the end changes from person to person. I personally see the end of gaming coming because of the influx of this Casual Gaming bullshit. I blame this on Nintendo. the other down fall is the fact that gaming has gone way to Mainstream. I blame this on Microsoft. because of these 2. games with good stories. i mean really good, make you think stories are few and far between. our standard of a good story has been lowered that people think halo had a wonderful story. In the beginning i was really happy to hear and see more people playing games. people i never thought would play games playing. but because of this. the industry has become predictable. there are fewer original IPs then there use to be and award winning, long running games have become dull because the writers are trying to please everyone. It would be one thing if this were something like sports, or something like that. but this is a creative field that is having a lot of the creativity choked out of it because of the casual and mainstream crowds.
It's not really advancing as fast as you think. Sure, things have gotten prettier, but they're certainly not getting anywhere near a point of perfection. The fact remains that a great majority of the games released, especially major titles, are incredibly flawed pieces of code, that the devs usually don't end up bothering to fix. Take a look at Fallout 3 for the PC as an example. 4 Months since launch, 2 patches, and the game is still broken, failing to work on the majority of systems with what is fairly common hardware (quad core cpus being the biggest killer of the game).Leeathal said:
Then throw in the fact there's been what, 3 original concepts in the last decade? I think your end result is possible, but I think people will stop gaming because developers will cease to produce anything that isn't a rehash of things that have been done over and over again, the quality of code will get worse and worse (code by committee is just as bad as design by committee), and no one will be interested in playing halo 40000 where master chef gets a new gun that shoots tentacle monsters dressed up in street fighter cosplay, but the game fails to work on anything other than a specific system configuration that was abandoned 3 years prior to release.
Wordy, I know, but I struggled to express my thoughts concisely with this one. Sorry.