The end of season 19 of South Park

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TheRightToArmBears

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Pooli said:
It was well written, it took until the final speech to actually see what Stone and Parker were writing about.

It's islam.

Islam extremists use American PC culture to get into the country, but they themselves are extremely prejudiced against anyone that isn't Muslim and wants them dead. PC principal is violent against anyone who is not PC because that is the only real test to tell them apart; like the scene at the beginning of the last episode in the bar. They use tactics that are 'unfair,' he says, like in prisons how muslim gangs force other inmates to convert, and allowing Islamic customs but not Christmas in public schools.

"We cannot let them take our PC." because to alienate an entire race would be wrong, we must make our PC stronger, so we can spot those who only want to convert or kill us. "This is going to be really hard."
Uhhh...

I think the nicest thing I can say is that if Matt & Trey were going to take the piss out of Muslims, they would have been a bit blunter about it. These are the guys that literally put Mohammad in an episode, they're not going to pussyfoot around for an entire season.


I thought the finale was a little bit of a let down, it seemed a bit like they had written themselves into a corner and it was a bit more about tying up loose ends. Still, it was pretty damn funny- I was in bits when Cartman pulled a gun on his mum.
 

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I didn't think my first post would be contested but I should have. Few people track Islam extremist news and editorials as much as I do, but Stone and Parker would. They based a career on controversy and current events.

There are further parallels in the show such as Leslie perfectly mirroring a sleeper; but it isn't enough. It's hard to justify the phrase:
'an almost invisible foe that is so bigoted, so racially biased, they actually think we should all die,'
in any other context, but its just an interpretation.

There's a good chance I'm mistaken about ads representing ISIL. The season ends with the election, and it's easy to see Garrison's victory is based on a certain well known US presidential candidate. All this proves is that season 19 is based on current events. I can't be proved right until the next season gives conclusive evidence. At the moment its just a crazy idea.
 

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In my opinion, this season was absolutely genius. Plenty of people complained about the finale feeling "rushed" but I didn't get that impression at all. Everything was tied together very well and very cleverly. I can see how it might have felt overwhelming to some, considering Matt and Trey had a LOT to say about pc culture, guns, the rise of ads, etc. but I thought it was all pieced together brilliantly. Can't wait for season 20. And I really hope they keep PC Principal on for as long as possible.
 

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Individually, the whole season was spot on. There wasn't a single episode I hated. Trying to judge the whole season as one continuous work is ironically short-sighted. Individually, all the episodes were great.

From the morphing of Garrison into a Donald Trump character (and later fucking Canadian Trump to death,) to kids playing "ninjas" being mistaken for Isis terrorists, and even the random Yaoi Tweek and Craig being-framed-as-gay episode. The individual episode quality of south park has gotten better than ever.

Shifting gears and trying to tie it all together is what made the last episode feel awkward. I wouldn't fault them for trying something different. Especially when they credited everyone having guns as the reason everything turned out unexpectedly fine.
 

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As to why that person didn't die, of course he didn't die. They spent the whole season building him as the worst heel and then having him live and be badass is the kind of anticlimax they thrive on.

Overall a great season, every episode was worth it!
 

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Loved this season, probably had some of the best episodes and jokes yet. The finale, on its own, was also a very funny episode with the 'guns solve everything' gag and gun/dog show. However, as a finale for the whole season it wasn't great. The overarching plot lines are resolved very hastily and boringly. They built things up for a great conflict with multiple sides but it ends up being diffused by a tiny bit of explanation from Jimmy. There is also very little reaction to what should have been a huge reveal and shock to the characters. I think they might have benefited from scraping the gun bit for a different episode so they would have more time to resolve the season's arc in a more satisfying way.

Great season regardless. Some personal highlights for me were Randy's slow 'scary/gay' realization in the Ninja episode, Jimmy standing up to PC principal for freedom of press/speech and using his handicap to his advantage over him, the collection of 'consent forms' at PC house, as well as the jokes they made about safe spaces that result in Butters being broken by having to filter through all the bile of the internet.

Personally was not expecting PC principal to die but to turn out to be an unwitting 'ad-person' kinda like a freed synth from fallout 4. I thought this was implied by his shock at appearing in an ad with Leslie that he apparently knew nothing about.
 

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Pooli said:
I didn't think my first post would be contested but I should have. Few people track Islam extremist news and editorials as much as I do, but Stone and Parker would. They based a career on controversy and current events.

There are further parallels in the show such as Leslie perfectly mirroring a sleeper; but it isn't enough. It's hard to justify the phrase:
'an almost invisible foe that is so bigoted, so racially biased, they actually think we should all die,'
in any other context, but its just an interpretation.

There's a good chance I'm mistaken about ads representing ISIL. The season ends with the election, and it's easy to see Garrison's victory is based on a certain well known US presidential candidate. All this proves is that season 19 is based on current events. I can't be proved right until the next season gives conclusive evidence. At the moment its just a crazy idea.
You... Err... may need to go outside and take in some fresh air. Well, polluted air but step away from the internet and conspiracy theories, dude.

Just... chill, dude.
 

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I thought it was funny, if a tad anti-climactic. I'll echo the person that said the stadium thing is really par for the course in South Park.

I'm actually now interested in seeing how much of this season will continue on in to the next one (like will the town go back to normal or will we still have the ruins of Sodosopa etc. hanging about?).

Plus I wonder what they're gonna do with Victoria given that PC Principal is still the principal
 

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Parasondox said:
Pooli said:
I didn't think my first post would be contested but I should have. Few people track Islam extremist news and editorials as much as I do, but Stone and Parker would. They based a career on controversy and current events.

There are further parallels in the show such as Leslie perfectly mirroring a sleeper; but it isn't enough. It's hard to justify the phrase:
'an almost invisible foe that is so bigoted, so racially biased, they actually think we should all die,'
in any other context, but its just an interpretation.

There's a good chance I'm mistaken about ads representing ISIL. The season ends with the election, and it's easy to see Garrison's victory is based on a certain well known US presidential candidate. All this proves is that season 19 is based on current events. I can't be proved right until the next season gives conclusive evidence. At the moment its just a crazy idea.
You... Err... may need to go outside and take in some fresh air. Well, polluted air but step away from the internet and conspiracy theories, dude.

Just... chill, dude.
Maybe he's a good Internet example of an old drunken family relation? The one who says something outlandish and the main reaction is to either try to ignore them or just be slightly stunned in awkward silence.
 

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Groxnax said:
So what do you guys think of the episode? Were you disappointed that a certain person didn't die?
Hell naw, if anything major props on keeping him alive after having turned him into a likeable character xD
I mean cmon, the character seemed like a dead man walking after episode 2.

This season has been one of my favs overall, pretty thought all the episodes were decent and even though the finale was somewhat subdued (didn't realize it was a finale until after when checking for when next episode was out), it still had some lulzy moments like "that certain person" finally settling things with a certain blabbermouth and expelling her...permanently.
 

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I know that they were trying to make a dig at the non-existent boogeyman of "political correctness", but there's something inherently funny about an aging douchebag frat boy talking about microaggressions.

I liked the Yelp episode though. I think that may have been the first instance of multiple occurrences of televised defecation and masturbation within a single 5 minute span.