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Some people suffer all their life and never amount to anything. There is nothing to guaranty that things will ever get better, that life will be bearable, that you will be alive tomorrow.

What you can do is to better yourself as a human being, create your own system of values. You can make yourself the person you want to be. You can make someone elses life a little less shit in the hope that someday someone will do the same for you, or you could not.

Be brave, confront yourself and change it.


I had that epiphany after 3/4 of a bottle of vodka, spending 4 days in my bed feeling sorry for myself and my brother talking to me about philosophy Nietzsche in particular. I am not emo or anything it was just a really bad month.
 

Martyr of Self

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Damn this thread took everything outta my head....Mean-heads. But I do have a happy one : Some people will put Ketchup/Catsup on anything....I know someone that puts it in soup...
 

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In soviet Russia does guitar smash you?

If Turning Point: Fall of Liberty spent another 6 months to a year in divelopement we would be praising it as an awesome game.

I am officially a "Carlinist", in this political party, George Carlin is always right.
 

John Galt

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Khedive Rex post=18.70987.719693 said:
Where are all the happy epiphanies?!)
Ask and ye shall receive.

It must have been roughly a couple months ago that this happened, but I've been trying to find the best way to put it into words for a while. After getting fed up with the lack of heavy discussion going on during that lull in the Escapist, I ventured out into the brave new world of anonymous political discussion. It was during one of these forays into the world without judgment that I had a discussion that's been repeating in my head for a while.

So here I am, a relatively new lurker to this board, fascinated by the user-base's ability to carry on anonymous conversations with such class and civility, when I stumbled into a thread discussing the merits of National Socialism. Now, my inner capitalist began to suspiciously eye my repressed fascist tendencies as I browsed the thread. Eventually, I yielded to my inner fascist and decided to chime in on which aspects of National Socialism could be worked into a present-day, capitalist system. In an effort to placate some of the horrified glances I'm probably earning by now, it's suffice to say that we agreed that a large-scale eugenics plan was not only something highly impractical to implement into a multicultural society such as America, but would consume a large amount of resources better put to use repairing our decaying infrastructure.

So, back and forth the posts flew, the other users and I confident enough in our anonymity to speak our minds. It wasn't until we'd just convinced each other that if our true goals were the re-industrialization and resurgence of America as prominent power, that subtle attempts to reverse current cultural trends and instill ambition into the average citizen would work much better than those silly rallies attended by trailer-trash and bikers, that I realized just who I was talking to.

I'm sure you all can claim to harbor some sort of animosity with Nazis and other fascists, hell, I myself find most of their policies unneeded and abhorrent, but I soon found out that most of the cultural predispositions we've come to build up are in most cases, absolutely false. Those who spout ideas that run contrary to popular consensus are not some bizarre fringe group, nor are they irrational backwoodsmen with no real foothold in reality. All of the people I encountered on that board were perfectly normal folks, just like us. Despite their holding of ideologies generally deemed as criteria for being a horrible person, there was nothing I could find wrong with them. They were able to back up their viewpoints with rational arguments, accept when they were proven wrong, and in many ways, act with more class than I expect out of the average person.

This brief contact with anonymous fascists ingrained upon me something that I'd long claimed to know intellectually. And that is the simple rule of not judging a book by it's cover, albeit in a way that you probably won't find in Reader's Digest or some children's story. It taught me that you can be deemed as a horrible person by society, and still be perfectly nice. It would seem that our society is more concerned with promoting a chosen few ideas rather than common human decency and rational discourse.
 
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Galt that is an awful epiphany. How can you consider that a pleasant one?

John Galt post=18.70987.734176 said:
And that is the simple rule of not judging a book by it's cover
"The worst truth young one, the most terrible thing you will ever come to realize, is that there are no monsters in this world."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofling_hospital_experiment
 

John Galt

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Imitation Saccharin post=18.70987.734224 said:
Galt that is an awful epiphany. How can you consider that a pleasant one?
It's a totally nice epiphany. It showed me that under every perceived villain, there's a human being that you can relate to and a rational nature you can appeal to.
 
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John Galt post=18.70987.734432 said:
It's a totally nice epiphany. It showed me that under every perceived villain, there's a human being that you can relate to and a rational nature you can appeal to.
Or maybe there isn't *points to previously posted links*
 

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Imitation Saccharin post=18.70987.734465 said:
John Galt post=18.70987.734432 said:
It's a totally nice epiphany. It showed me that under every perceived villain, there's a human being that you can relate to and a rational nature you can appeal to.
Or maybe there isn't *points to previously posted links*
I can tell you with certainty that the first two and last have nothing to do with being perceived as a villain, and whilst I cannot recall the third, it still seems to have nothing to do with being villanous;

The purpose of these experiments are, essentially, social authority/our perception of authority against morals, in which social authority almost always overcomes our morality.

How does this debunk what Galt is saying? If anything, it is showing you that, for example, the Nazis were not villains, they were merely citizens under the thrall of an incredibly charismatic authority. The purpose of the Milgram Experiment was to show that, despite the trauma it can inflict on them, people will obey someone they believe to be an authority figure regardless of morals - it is about social conformity, so I don't really see what those previously posted links have to say against Galt's epiphany.

In the current day, you do have to be pretty damn villanous to be a Nazi, seeing as it is viewed as wrong by most of us, but even this may be due to social norms in their lives or down to experience that gives them this hate-filled point of view.

If I've completely misjudged your statement, I'll delete this quicksmart, but it seems as if you are saying that those links somehow debunk Galt's epiphany.

My epiphany?

That sometimes the correct response to reality is to go insane.
 

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Besides Labyrinth's (at age 10 though) I learned salt can go on pretty much anything.
 

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John Galt post=18.70987.734176 said:
So here I am, a relatively new lurker to this board, fascinated by the user-base's ability to carry on anonymous conversations with such class and civility, when I stumbled into a thread discussing the merits of National Socialism. Now, my inner capitalist began to suspiciously eye my repressed fascist tendencies as I browsed the thread. Eventually, I yielded to my inner fascist and decided to chime in on which aspects of National Socialism could be worked into a present-day, capitalist system. In an effort to placate some of the horrified glances I'm probably earning by now, it's suffice to say that we agreed that a large-scale eugenics plan was not only something highly impractical to implement into a multicultural society such as America, but would consume a large amount of resources better put to use repairing our decaying infrastructure.
Thank you so much for my daily out-loud laugh, Galt.
 
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Recently, I had the epiphany that if I follow through with everything I want to do in my life, I'm going to end up broke, over qualified and possibly be bitten by a vicious camel.