My only importance this coming week is my bro coming over to visit. Yeah I know people do care about this celebrations since there has been people asking for the Flag at the store I work in (we don't have any althought the Welsh store do sell them).
Lets face reality here, if you removed the royal family the replacement wouldn't be someone interesting but yet another self serving gutless political moron. We would end with the choice between president Blair, Clegg or Osborne. Then you will add half dozen shady advisors who dine with dodgy businessmen in the hope of short term political gain. No French Republic has yet lasted longer than 60 years, compare that to British stabilityReginald said:You do realize, that through the implementation of new laws and such, the Monarchy could be done away with without sacrificing any of the benefits? Or, we could replace the frightfully dull Windsors with some people who might do more to help out around the country. Or, we could perhaps get someone interesting. It's not like being a monarch is a difficult job, nowadays. I could probably do it, if I was asked politely.
Because France is the only other country on Earth, amirite?albino boo said:Lets face reality here, if you removed the royal family the replacement wouldn't be someone interesting but yet another self serving gutless political moron. We would end with the choice between president Blair, Clegg or Osborne. Then you will add half dozen shady advisors who dine with dodgy businessmen in the hope of short term political gain. No French Republic has yet lasted longer than 60 years, compare that to British stabilityReginald said:You do realize, that through the implementation of new laws and such, the Monarchy could be done away with without sacrificing any of the benefits? Or, we could replace the frightfully dull Windsors with some people who might do more to help out around the country. Or, we could perhaps get someone interesting. It's not like being a monarch is a difficult job, nowadays. I could probably do it, if I was asked politely.
Oh yes let add those well known really useful Presidents, G.W Bush, B Assad, V Putin, R Mugabe and so and so forth. All them well known humanitarians and have done wonders for the country both home and abroad.Hazy992 said:Because France is the only other country on Earth, amirite?albino boo said:Lets face reality here, if you removed the royal family the replacement wouldn't be someone interesting but yet another self serving gutless political moron. We would end with the choice between president Blair, Clegg or Osborne. Then you will add half dozen shady advisors who dine with dodgy businessmen in the hope of short term political gain. No French Republic has yet lasted longer than 60 years, compare that to British stabilityReginald said:You do realize, that through the implementation of new laws and such, the Monarchy could be done away with without sacrificing any of the benefits? Or, we could replace the frightfully dull Windsors with some people who might do more to help out around the country. Or, we could perhaps get someone interesting. It's not like being a monarch is a difficult job, nowadays. I could probably do it, if I was asked politely.
And British Prime Ministers are innocent of this... how exactly? The presidential system doesn't make you evil you know. If you think the fact that they have presidential systems is the problem you're incredibly naive.albino boo said:Oh yes let add those well known really useful Presidents, G.W Bush, B Assad, V Putin, R Mugabe and so and so forth. All them well known humanitarians and have done wonders for the country both home and abroad.Hazy992 said:Because France is the only other country on Earth, amirite?albino boo said:Lets face reality here, if you removed the royal family the replacement wouldn't be someone interesting but yet another self serving gutless political moron. We would end with the choice between president Blair, Clegg or Osborne. Then you will add half dozen shady advisors who dine with dodgy businessmen in the hope of short term political gain. No French Republic has yet lasted longer than 60 years, compare that to British stabilityReginald said:You do realize, that through the implementation of new laws and such, the Monarchy could be done away with without sacrificing any of the benefits? Or, we could replace the frightfully dull Windsors with some people who might do more to help out around the country. Or, we could perhaps get someone interesting. It's not like being a monarch is a difficult job, nowadays. I could probably do it, if I was asked politely.
Yeah but it helped us avoid President Blair.Hazy992 said:And British Prime Ministers are innocent of this... how exactly? The presidential system doesn't make you evil you know. If you think the fact that they have presidential systems is the problem you're incredibly naive.
I'd like to point out that this does not represent the opinion of most Irish people.370999 said:I'm Irish so I would rather celebrate a successful Al-Qaeda assassination on the Royal family, then the Queen's birthday. God how much I hate them so.
Just to make it clear, that was hyperbole on my part, I don't want anyone to die in a terrorist attack.Colour-Scientist said:I'd like to point out that this does not represent the opinion of most Irish people.370999 said:I'm Irish so I would rather celebrate a successful Al-Qaeda assassination on the Royal family, then the Queen's birthday. God how much I hate them so.
OP: I didn't even realise this was happening, I probably won't give to much though after I leave this thread, either. Nice for her, I guess. She's a cute little old lady.
President Blair wouldn't be much different to Prime Minister Blair in all honesty.Hoplon said:Yeah but it helped us avoid President Blair.Hazy992 said:And British Prime Ministers are innocent of this... how exactly? The presidential system doesn't make you evil you know. If you think the fact that they have presidential systems is the problem you're incredibly naive.
I'm honestly on the fence about the whole thing, Yes hereditary power is a massive pile of balls but if you think that is done away with by not having aristocracy/royalty then I point you towards people like the Hilton's or the Murdoch's of Newscorp etc.
I don't like it but I also don't like the alternative much either.
The attitudes you see on this thread are partly down to the great British tradition of complaining about everything, and different places are behaving in different ways. In my street most people know each other to an extent and so almost every house has put flags up and we're planning an 8 hour street party, on the other hand there are other streets in the same town which have virtually nothing up and aren't doing anything. I myself am a proud monarchist but a lot of people, particularly younger ones going through a rebellious phase, tend to disagree.dyre said:Do the English generally not care about the Royal Family? I always found absurd the attention Royal family stuff gets in the US (you should see the attention it gets on CNN), but I thought at the very least the English probably cared.
Anyways, the only way the Diamond Jubilee affects me is that all the news here will be reporting about it instead of covering actual news.
That... Seriously don't even go there.JoJo said:a lot of people, particularly younger ones going through a rebellious phase, tend to disagree.