But that's my point! As soon as it has a brand, then it better be epic or it'll be decried. It's higher rated then any previous Star Trek film, according to Meta Critic, but it gets a '6' for what? X-Men Origins slaughtered at the box office, and so did Transformers...but they are bad because...? They aren't like the show? The cartoon? The comic book?Slycne said:
It is depressing but when shitty writing is ALL YOU GET anymore... you stop caring about it being a necessity and then go and watch (in my case) Casablanca or The Thin Man while weeping.Wouldukindly said:
Simple enjoyment is fine, but like a lot of people familiar with the Star Trek brand I don't find action movies as entertaining as I was when I was a young teen. They target these films to people who are younger than me, tell their audience that it is for them and isn't for me and then suddenly I'm cynical for not being interested in it?Baby Tea said:
If you could sue over being cantakerous and swearing alot George Carlin would have sued the shit out of Yahtzee (when he was still alive, RIP George)More Fun To Compute said:
But it's a popcorn movie! The trailer and all the promo material were pretty straightforward about it being a popcorn movie. Sure, it had its superficial moments, but it never sunk to the depths of Transformers (God, that was aweful). While I was in the theater, I felt something I hadn't felt in a long while: I was having a GOOD TIME at the movies. It was fun, there were a few laughs, and it looked fantastic. Take it for what it is and you might actually enjoy yourself.More Fun To Compute said:
The guy who does the Final Fantasy movies? He might be, but since I remember Lewis-Smith his style more similar to me. Looks similar from one of his old clips on youtube [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j39oSM9ppo] at least.PedroSteckecilo said:
The government scientists surgically removed my ability to have fun and enjoy myself at the allotted age. I'm told that it's a necessary operation required to maintain the social cohesion that comes from teenagers liking different things from older generations and provides material for official humour outlets such as The Onion.m_jim said:
Agreed here... I kinda had the feeling of listening to Comic Book Guy from the simpsons talk condescendingly about something he didn't enjoy... mixed with yahtzee and swears here. I enjoyed listening to your review, and I busted out laughing once or twice, but yeah... Transformers was as effective as it was ever going to be, its never had any semblance of reason for anything, and its about freaking cars from space, it was only ever going to be one orgasmic CG/explosionfest, and its wrong to hate it just because it was only ever that. and as for origins, It was enjoyable and fun to watch, followed 3 huuuuuuge movies that came before it, and managed to not let those who went to see the films preceding it down, so yeah, it did good... no reason to hate.Baby Tea said:
And Star Trek the Original Series was campy, poorly acted, and full of thinly-veiled social commentary, which is why it's awesome. It's also the reason why so many people get worried about a new movie - taking something that's awesome partially because it's so poorly made, and making it into an action-packed explosionfest wrought with drama and suspense is kinda the same thing as making Die Hard into Law and Order with a Vengance: the Animated Series.Baby Tea said:
Wait wait, isn't what is 'good' totally subjective? And if the masses enjoy something (As seen in Box-office sales), then isn't it safe to say it's mostly viewed as good? Not everyone would agree on a film, but popularity isn't something to be dismissed. Take the new Wolverine flick as an example, which has a 40 or 50 something on Meta Critic: It did exceedingly well at the box office, most people I know say they enjoyed it as a fun action movie (I know I did), but critics aren't taking to it too well. So, is it good or bad?CaptainCrunch said:
No, no I find reviewers and critics usually cast their opinion (Educated or not) into a medium that is ruled by subjectivism and fads. Even a movie panned by critics will do awesome in sales, and so who is right then? The pretentious 'know-it-all' critics who said it sucked? Or the Movie Studio execs, Actors, director, and producers walking off into the sunset with the press a buzz and millions in their pockets? Or the people who went out to see a simple film and were entertained for two hours?CaptainCrunch said:
DalekJaas said:
Thank you both, I completely agree. Also MovieBob cut down on the swearing. I had to stop half way through because all of your swearing made it way too hard to listen to.Baby Tea said: