The Fade, and the hate thereof

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So, I've been playing through Dragon Age: Origins for the first time, and I've recently finished the Fade portion of the circle tower questline. And it was awesome. Normally I can kind of see where people are coming from when they say that they dislike something in a game, but this one just baffles me. Why is the Fade so hated?
 
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It's convoluted filler with no substance, not to mention it's just annoying to play.


The first playthrough is fine, but it's like the Deep Roads, long and tedious.
 

Jolly Co-operator

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I agree, it's really not annoying the first time through, but it starts to grate when replaying the game. And trust me, you probably will want to replay this game a bare minimum of one time, if you like it as much as I did.
 

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It's good the first time through but it's boring on subsequent playthrough but if you take different characters in with you it will be more interesting.
 

DementedSheep

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It was fun....the first time but replaying it is terribly boring and the game is built around party combat so fighting with one character is bleh. Once you know what your doing there is nothing too it.
 

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I liked the concept, the shape-shifting puzzles, and seeing a manipulated desire of your allies, but it could feel quite prolonged with it all being done in one lengthy segment. Especially on replays.

There's also the foggy visuals getting to be a potential eyesore for some people.
 

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Thats why I got it on PC, fade skip mod. Its just out of place and tedious. The deep road section was almost as bad though.
 

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It's long, it's boring, it's tedious. It completely destroys the party-based combat for quite a while, and Dragon Age: Origins is not at its most interesting when you're fighting 1v1.
 

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sneakypenguin said:
Thats why I got it on PC, fade skip mod. Its just out of place and tedious. The deep road section was almost as bad though.
Does the fade skip mod give you the stat points? I've never used it because, unlike the majority, I actually enjoy the Fade.

Also, if you don't mind cheating a little, you can abuse the shitty coding and use the stat point nodes multiple times in rapid succession, allowing you to get several points per node. I did that on a recent playthrough for the fun of it and ended up with over 50 in all stats at like level 18. made the Deep Roads go by really, really quickly when you're one-shotting everything. Now that's a level I can understand the hate for.
 

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wintercoat said:
sneakypenguin said:
Thats why I got it on PC, fade skip mod. Its just out of place and tedious. The deep road section was almost as bad though.
Does the fade skip mod give you the stat points? I've never used it because, unlike the majority, I actually enjoy the Fade.

Also, if you don't mind cheating a little, you can abuse the shitty coding and use the stat point nodes multiple times in rapid succession, allowing you to get several points per node. I did that on a recent playthrough for the fun of it and ended up with over 50 in all stats at like level 18. made the Deep Roads go by really, really quickly when you're one-shotting everything. Now that's a level I can understand the hate for.
It does, you get all the points. You click on the NPC to enter the fade then it just takes you to all the fights then your out after you beat everybody.
 

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Lots of tedious combat with precious little story content to string it along. Also, it's really long, comes out of nowhere and adds nothing to the overarching plot.

Unlike what some others have said, I didn't even enjoy it the first time.
 

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Once I got the hang of what was going on, I actually quite enjoyed it the first time. While the game does suffer without party-based combat, I thought the shapeshifting puzzles were an interesting change of pace if nothing else. For me the most annoying thing was that it doesn't occur to anyone to stab the Sloth demon before he can send you to sleep.
 

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wintercoat said:
sneakypenguin said:
Thats why I got it on PC, fade skip mod. Its just out of place and tedious. The deep road section was almost as bad though.
Does the fade skip mod give you the stat points? I've never used it because, unlike the majority, I actually enjoy the Fade.

Also, if you don't mind cheating a little, you can abuse the shitty coding and use the stat point nodes multiple times in rapid succession, allowing you to get several points per node. I did that on a recent playthrough for the fun of it and ended up with over 50 in all stats at like level 18. made the Deep Roads go by really, really quickly when you're one-shotting everything. Now that's a level I can understand the hate for.
Yes it gives you the stats.

Like everyone else said, fun first time tedious in subsequent playthroughs.
 

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Main reason I never have finished the game more than once. It's boring and just frustrating for me.
 

UrinalDook

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I dunno, even first time through I hated it. It screws up the pacing something awful. I mean, you're in this desperate rush to make it to the top of the mages' tower to stop whatshisface before the Templars exterminate all of the innocent mages within the tower, when all of a sudden you blunder into a room where you get locked into conversation with 'horrible monotone monster', who promptly sends you on an hours long diversion with the bare minimum of dialogue, no plot progression and worst of all, no squadmates.

That tactical RPG based on perfectly balancing your team of four goes out the window, and all of the fights become this immensely irritating trial and error process of working out the specific ability you need out of the selection given to you, that you've never seen before and never get to use again.

It's brown, utterly uninteresting to look at, and the atmosphere and music are just dreary.

The concept of shapeshifting to solve puzzles is a good one, I will grant it that. I just wish they could have inserted it somewhere you didn't feel like the clock was against you back in the real world. In other words, if it was it's own separate quest with it's own goal, and not randomly inserted into another, more pressing quest, I might have tolerated it better.
 

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I really liked it, tho i have not replayed the game. But i found it really fun and interesting. Felt like a bad-ass taking down that troll ( or was it an ogre? One of those really big enemies that likes to pick you up and smash your face in) all alone, tho I'm sure he was a weakened version or something like that. The shape-shifting part was cool, as well. Can't really remember much more of it, to be honest. But i do remember that i liked that part.