The failure of Obama's economics

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ea9_1222928000

Since I only just discovered this video and it is only less than 3 weeks from the election I think you should watch it...
 

Ultrajoe

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For some reason, why do i feel that i will only feel rage towards this video?

His voice is irritating already.
 

TomNook

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Ultrajoe post=18.74255.827470 said:
For some reason, why do i feel that i will only feel rage towards this video?

His voice is irritating already.
Because your a hopeless naive change monger?
 

Ultrajoe

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TomNook post=18.74255.827494 said:
Ultrajoe post=18.74255.827470 said:
For some reason, why do i feel that i will only feel rage towards this video?

His voice is irritating already.
Because your a hopeless naive change monger?
And that folks, is why we can't have nice things.
 

Spartan Bannana

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snowplow post=18.74255.827544 said:
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/time_for_some_campaignin
Care to have some content in this post besides the link?

Anyway, I like Obama's plan, the tax raise only affects rich people, and there's been analysis done, I can't remember the exact numbers but John Mccain's plan will raise our debt about 14 trillion dollars, and Obama's plan would raise our debt about 78 billion dollars.

I heard that from an anaylist on Nine News right after the 3rd debate.
 

minignu

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I couldn't watch more than 20 seconds, due to the guy's condescending nature and blatent pushing for McCain. Really, videos like this mean jack - I could find dozens of videos on YouTube which attack the economic policies of both sides, why is this particular one important? Just because he agrees with your own political viewpoint.

Also, trickle down economics don't work kthxbai.
 

BaronAsh

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Spartan Bannana post=18.74255.827553 said:
snowplow post=18.74255.827544 said:
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/time_for_some_campaignin
Care to have some content in this post besides the link?

Anyway, I like Obama's plan, the tax raise only affects rich people, and there's been analysis done, I can't remember the exact numbers but John Mccain's plan will raise our debt about 14 trillion dollars, and Obama's plan would raise our debt about 78 billion dollars.

I heard that from an anaylist on Nine News right after the 3rd debate.
I want some proof on that one.

Besides Obama says he's going to tax the rich folks even more, their tax rate is already 35% which is the second highest in the world. In my mind taxing somebody because he is successful is such bullshit I think their should just be less government spending.
 

minignu

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Man, those poor, vulnerable rich people, what will they do?

They have my sympathy.
 

Spartan Bannana

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BaronAsh post=18.74255.827562 said:
Spartan Bannana post=18.74255.827553 said:
snowplow post=18.74255.827544 said:
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/time_for_some_campaignin
Care to have some content in this post besides the link?

Anyway, I like Obama's plan, the tax raise only affects rich people, and there's been analysis done, I can't remember the exact numbers but John Mccain's plan will raise our debt about 14 trillion dollars, and Obama's plan would raise our debt about 78 billion dollars.

I heard that from an anaylist on Nine News right after the 3rd debate.
I want some proof on that one.

Besides Obama says he's going to tax the rich folks even more, their tax rate is already 35% which is the second highest in the world. In my mind taxing somebody because he is successful is such bullshit I think their should just be less government spending.
Oh my, yes, let's help those who can already help themselves and leave the poor people who don't have the money to afford healthcare or gigantic houses.
Also, you want proof? Go to nbc.com and see if they have news clips, it was right after the debate coverage
 

teh_gunslinger

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BaronAsh post=18.74255.827562 said:
Spartan Bannana post=18.74255.827553 said:
snowplow post=18.74255.827544 said:
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/time_for_some_campaignin
Care to have some content in this post besides the link?

Anyway, I like Obama's plan, the tax raise only affects rich people, and there's been analysis done, I can't remember the exact numbers but John Mccain's plan will raise our debt about 14 trillion dollars, and Obama's plan would raise our debt about 78 billion dollars.

I heard that from an anaylist on Nine News right after the 3rd debate.
I want some proof on that one.

Besides Obama says he's going to tax the rich folks even more, their tax rate is already 35% which is the second highest in the world. In my mind taxing somebody because he is successful is such bullshit I think their should just be less government spending.
You think 35% is a lot? In Denmark I pay 49% and I'm student. That's the lowest tax rate. I make about 1087$ a month. If I was "rich" I would be paying 66%. I'm alright with this. The money is mostly spent well, but I don't think you have a lot to complain about. :)
 

Alex_P

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That video is punctuation fail. The creator seems to be of the opinion that he should insert a comma anytime he stops for air.

I have to keep saying this because apparently it's news to people: a financial crisis is not a fiscal crisis. The thing to do right now is to spend lots of government money on stuff we know we need but have been putting off, like infrastructure improvements.

-- Alex
 

Random Argument Man

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I predict that the two candidates will never be favorites when they become president. Not a lot of leaders are favorites when trying to bring back an economy.



Note*McCain is one dead beat away of dying. I'm scared of Sarah Palin.
 

Rolling Thunder

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In SA, anyone with over the equivalent of $20,000 dollars a year pays into a 40% tax bracket. God knows what the super-rich pay.

Andon the video- WHY THE FUCK CAN'T THE NARRATOR BLOW HIS FUCKING NOSE!!! IT'S FUCKING DISGUSTING, HEARING THE WHINY LITTLE SHIT SNIFFLINF AWAY!!

dipshit narrator said:
Any economist would say: Allow the banks to fail.
Any economist with 3/4s of their brain removed, that is. The last time America had a large-scale bank failure was the Great Deppression. Ask your grandparents -unless they were millionaires, they probably didn't have such a good time...

In short: Bank Failure screws everyone, because

a) The Government has to far more money in preserving savings than bailing out banks.

b) If the government chooses not to, then a lot of hardworking people lose their money through no fault of their own. And if that's capitalism, then you can hand me that hammer and sickle if you please.

c) It precipitates a massive withdrawal of money from said economy, thus strengthening the tendancy towards protectionsim and speeding up the collapse of economies globally.



dipshit narrator said:
If we tax the top too much, they will tighten up there liquidity and slow economic growth in America
So,if we tax the rich less, then demand will shift to the right, but if we tax the poor less, demand will not shift to the right.

Spectacular load of shit. S.P.E.C.T.A.C.U.L.A.R. The facts are

A) The poor and lower middle classes constitute the largest consumer base. By reducing there taxes, Obama is in essence creating a dramatic increase in the demand curve of the entire American economy towards the right. By increasing demand, he will stimulate growth in the sectors that matter-consumer goods, basic neccesities and, in essence, 'real investements' (Factories, farms-actual production.)

B) By decreasing taxes on the rich, who historically have a much higher propesnity to save, we will not stimulate a great increase in demand (as the rich generally represent a saturated and minimal market for most products-there are only so many TVs you can use, and only so many kilos of food you can eat.). What will admittedly increase is the demand for stocks, shares and 'paper investments', as more moneygoes into the finacial sector. This in turn could produce a slight increase on the supply side of the curve, as credit becomes cheaper, but without the increasing demand it will simply result in lower prices, driving smaller businesses out of business and, in the longer-term, once again reducing supply.




I must say this: This gentlemen with the nasal problem really needs to pick up an economics textbook sometime.


Also: During reccesion, you do not reduce government spending. A balanced budget is not an neccesity during times of economic crisis-in fact, by increasing government spending, one can increase demand and help roll back the effects of reccesion much faster.
 

GCM

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*sigh...

I wonder if we can just let the Republicans take it. Then, when they mess it up, we can have fun watching people trying to make up excuses for them again like they did for Bush.

But then again, people would suffer for that.

Regardless, I won't pretend to know anything about economics or how they falio, so I won't impose. (Nor did I really watch that)

EDIT: I'm sorry, I meant "fali", not "falio".