The Felicia Day/Destructoid situation

[everythingbeeps]

Technically yes. Anyone listed in a game's credits contributed in some sense... except maybe some of the "Special Thanks" listings.

She contributed to a game, not the gaming "industry". There's a big difference. She didn't improve the pitiful working conditions developers have to suffer, she didn't fight for gamer rights, she did jack fucking shit apart from getting a couple of jobs because of her popularity, that's it.

Doing voice acting contributes. She also did the voice for a character in the last Dragon Age 2 DLC, and that wasn't a few lines.

See above. Unless, that is, you're suggesting Jessica Chobot also contributed to "ze vydia industreh" because if you are, this discussion is over.

Ookay, now you've completely lost it.

First of all, on what planet does someone need to actually picket EA in order to be said to have "contributed"? (And first-b, since when has this conversation been about who contributes to the welfare of gaming employees? You think that's what Ryan FuckFace was talking about? Pretty goddamn sure it wasn't.)

Second of all, people still do that thing where they deliberately misspell words in order to try to make the other person look stupid?

Third, as much as she sucks, yes, Jessica Chobot's contributed simply by having done voice work in a real game. She certainly hasn't contributed nearly as much as Day, but that's another conversation.

I can't wait to see what nonsense you come up with next.

 

[J. Mazarin]

Technically yes. Anyone listed in a game's credits contributed in some sense... except maybe some of the "Special Thanks" listings.

She contributed to a game, not the gaming "industry". There's a big difference. She didn't improve the pitiful working conditions developers have to suffer, she didn't fight for gamer rights, she did jack fucking shit apart from getting a couple of jobs because of her popularity, that's it.

And you've done what, exactly?

 

[TheScientificIssole]

People now flock to his Twitter, calling him ''sick'' and a ''misogynist'' (the latter is quite confusing as he never made any comment that was anti-woman,simply anti-Day).

They are right. Why isn't he saying this about Wil Wheaton or Alec Baldwin or Nathan Fillion, they are other nerd figures who have nothing to do with gaming. Also didn't she create "The Guild", a show that is more about humans interacting with gaming as a major plot note, and wrote an episode of the Dragon Age crap.

 

[everythingbeeps]

As if everyone whoever contributed to the game industry does that. What a joke. Game developers themselves hardly even do that.

Correct, which is why most of them don't contribute.

First of all, on what planet does someone need to actually picket EA in order to be said to have "contributed"? (And first-b, since when has this conversation been about who contributes to the welfare of gaming employees? You think that's what Ryan FuckFace was talking about? Pretty goddamn sure it wasn't.

I was pointing out that she has done nothing of note for gaming but seeing as you're White Knighting for her I guess you probably won't listen.

Third, as much as she sucks, yes, Jessica Chobot's contributed simply by having done voice work in a real game. She certainly hasn't contributed nearly as much as Day, but that's another conversation.

Really? How so? She did more than just voice work after all. She even writes for IGN for crying out loud. I'd say she's a much better both babe than Felicia Day.

If I'm White Knighting, what are you doing? What's the opposite of that? Your campaign against her borders on creepy.

 

[Seneschal]

So who is Felicia Day? What does she do that's related to the gaming industry? and Why should I care?
I can't be arsed reading 11 pages of posts so I'm gonna need someone to bring me up to speed in preferably 65 words or less.

She writes The Guild and The Guild is brilliant.

Ok and what's The Guild?

Popular comedy webseries revolving around a group of gamers that only knew each-other through their MMORPG guild, whose lives start falling apart after they finally meet in real life. Funny stuff, you can watch it for free here: http://www.watchtheguild.com/

As for Day, she's a famous person that's also a geek, she's likeable, and she blogs/vlogs about geek-culture topics. She's also been in Buffy, Eureka and Supernatural. That's enough for her to become a sort of gamer icon. You could argue that this is a nebulous kind of contribution, but I personally see no harm in it. She makes entertainment; people like it. There's nothing upsetting or objectionable about it.

 

[maninahat]

And because nobody answered my question, I went crying to Google. To my surprise, I found this article [http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2012/07/01/the-wreck-of-the-s-s-censorship-or-how-writers-steer-their-careers-into-the-rocks/] on top. So go and read it because it's by Chuck Wendig. I still didn't get my answers, but I love the dude's writing.

I thought it was a little over written myself, though his point was a good one.

Yes, it was unprofessional, and sexist. But most of all, it was an opinion this asshole (the ex-freelance writer) should have kept to himself. How on earth did he expect people to take it?

 

[everythingbeeps]

If I'm White Knighting, what are you doing? What's the opposite of that? Your campaign against her borders on creepy.

So this is what it's come to, isn't it? You have no more arguments to make so you resort to petty insults. Thanks for conceding, have a good one.

Oh, I'd have resorted to petty insults sooner if I'd known your intention here was just to "win".

Because it sure wasn't to say anything approaching truth. And lord knows YOU'VE never resorted to petty insults! God, people like you are hilarious and delightful.

 

[MaxiP62]

It doesn't matter if he was right or not, what he said was just plain rude. He wouldn't ask that to a male so why Felica? He's just being ignorant like so many other people on the internet.

 

[sethisjimmy]

If I'm White Knighting, what are you doing? What's the opposite of that? Your campaign against her borders on creepy.

So this is what it's come to, isn't it? You have no more arguments to make so you resort to petty insults. Thanks for conceding, have a good one.

Protip: You started by dismissing his arguments as "white knighting".

 

[Skratt]

That guy is a dick. His question is as irrelevant as he claims she is. Fuck Ryan Perez and good riddance.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Protip: You started by dismissing his arguments as "white knighting".

You know, there really should be a corollary to Godwin's Law for misapplication of the term "white knighting" (or uses "moralf*g" in any context).

 

[sethisjimmy]

Protip: You started by dismissing his arguments as "white knighting".

ProTip: I didn't. Funny how people never bother to read the entire discussion.

He gave legitimate arguments against your point in the last post, and you couldn't defend yourself, so you resorted to calling him a white knight.

 

[sethisjimmy]

He gave legitimate arguments against your point in the last post, and you couldn't defend yourself, so you resorted to calling him a white knight.

Really? Where? Care to provide a screenshot?

Right here.

First of all, on what planet does someone need to actually picket EA in order to be said to have "contributed"? (And first-b, since when has this conversation been about who contributes to the welfare of gaming employees? You think that's what Ryan FuckFace was talking about? Pretty goddamn sure it wasn't.

I was pointing out that she has done nothing of note for gaming but seeing as you're White Knighting for her I guess you probably won't listen.

 

[maninahat]

Honestly I dislike Felicia Day's acting. When she showed up in Eureka I didn't watch that either. She's not even that good looking, not sure why people are creaming themselves over her.

I agree with you - I saw her in that Dragon Age show, which was thoroughly terrible - but that is irrelevant to the discussion (the discussion being about professional courtesy and prudent behaviour).