The Flat Earth Societyl

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Riverwolf

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I've interacted with someone from there before.

Apparently, the actual pictures from space aren't proof of anything because they're "CG". However, hand-drawn maps from centuries ago tell the "real" story.

TBH, I think these guys are just trying to rebel against the status quo; people have known the earth is round for thousands of years, since anyone who travels even a little bit would notice that things disappear over the horizon.
 

Snotnarok

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One of the women on the view is a flat-earther, friend sent me a clip on youtube and I was very. :|

I find it more crazy that there's those who believe the earth to be 6k years old, evidence abound but something written and handed down says otherwise so they believe that. Well, better believe those older textbooks from the 1950's or as well then. It's harmless till they are forcing kids to listen to that dribble vs actual evidence.
Yes I'm sure this is the kind of statement to make someone riled up, but after the Nye vs Ham debate I was pretty shocked myself.
 

Queen Michael

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Snotnarok said:
One of the women on the view is a flat-earther, friend sent me a clip on youtube and I was very. :|

I find it more crazy that there's those who believe the earth to be 6k years old, evidence abound but something written and handed down says otherwise so they believe that. Well, better believe those older textbooks from the 1950's or as well then. It's harmless till they are forcing kids to listen to that dribble vs actual evidence.
Yes I'm sure this is the kind of statement to make someone riled up, but after the Nye vs Ham debate I was pretty shocked myself.
I know, but it makes sense when you know that their God tells them they have to interpret evidence according to their scripture. Kind of like a jury going "We find the defendant guilty, which by pure coincidence just happens to be what our religion says we must do!"

On topic: What do flat-earthers think is at the edge of the world?
 

lacktheknack

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Why on Earth do you care?

These people will never be in a position of actual power, never able to do any damage to the education system. Ergo, there is literally no reason to give the most microscopic of a crap about what they believe, evidence or no.
 

Ryan Hughes

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Am I seriously the first person with an uncontrollable urge to quote the Bad Religion song?

The Flat Earth Society is somewhere far away/
With their candlesticks and compasses/
And the bright ship Humana is well on its way/
-With great determination
-And no destination

 

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renegade7 said:
I once found a tumblr blog (It has since been removed but archives exist) about "Intelligent privilege." The gist of "This is Intelligent Privilege" is that there is an elite class of people in the "Neurotriarchy" (I suppose a combination of "kyriarchy" and "neurological")

[SNIP]

But basically, the internet is full of crazy people and morons, and that's never going to change. They're a minority, but in the end it's kind of a good thing, because it shows just how powerful the internet is at giving everyone a voice...even if you choose to use that voice to say that the Earth is flat.
Why would it be that? Looks more that person meant "rule by intellectuals", which neurarchy would make sense as, and threw in tri for some (probably very detailed) reason. Maybe because there's three ultimate rulers in this fantastical secret society?

Anyway, it's one of the problems of the Internet that lunatics like these will find each other and be emboldened because others "know the truth" instead of fuming alone in futility (and hopefully growing quiet).

Flat-earthers aren't the worst of it though. At least they have some stupid book they were indoctrinated to revere above all else telling them their nonsense. There's people who believe in the luminiferous ether of all things (and presumably a global scientific conspiracy to cover up it's existence). I've even seen a guy try to explain how the Michelson-Morley experiment conclusively proves it exists!

lacktheknack said:
Why on Earth do you care?

These people will never be in a position of actual power, never able to do any damage to the education system. Ergo, there is literally no reason to give the most microscopic of a crap about what they believe, evidence or no.
They may have no power now, but whose to say they won't ever? Yeah it's unlikely but it could happen, after all this group is probably (along with most any fringe group) always looking for ways to assert more influence. Currently there's plenty of pseudoscientific, anti-intellectual, and paranoid imbecile groups with plenty of power causing society a lot of harm.

Furthermore, in a slightly more esoteric sense it's simply better for society if fewer of its members are uneducated. There's a strong negative correlation between how well educated a society is and its rates of poverty and violent crime for example.

To put it simply: I want humanity to be the best it can be and misinformation-promoting groups of all kinds hinder that.
 

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renegade7 said:
Oh internet. Between that blog (what proof of it is left anyway) and the site linked in the OP I feel as if I'll never get tired of the lunacy people put up on the web. As long as these people aren't going out of their way to hurt others, they're free to believe that Earth really is just a rat and we're living on its back or whatever.
 

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You think that's bad? Look at this!
This is so amazingly stupid! Apart from the fact that it's so obviously not Satanic, but if they wanted to be Satanic they'd be celebrating bands like Darkthrone, Watain and Deicide. I've gotten into long arguments that I don't care to continue on this video.
 

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renegade7 said:
ClockworkPenguin said:
renegade7 said:
I'm 90% certain that that's a send up parodying the tumblr stereotype. My reasoning is because it would upset me to much to believe otherwise. Its depressing enough that I can only be 90% sure.
That's what I thought at first, surely no one could be that stupid (oh no I just offended her neurotype!). But as I was reading through the thing in morbid fascination and seeing that it had seen updates for over a year, and the sheer hostility evident in the writing, it slowly began to dawn on me, holy shit, this person is genuinely insane. I mean, I think trolling would be a little less viciously insane.

Read for yourself http://archive.is/kg3MC (the blog itself no longer exists, there are only archived snapshots)
Out of morbid curiosity, I read a few posts. The content of that blog is so stupid that it causes me physical pain. I almost wish that the blog was still up just so that I could troll it.
 

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Well apparently 1/4 of americans think that elvis presly is still alive so im not too surprised at that. There are also people that still believe that the sun goes around the earth and pretty much every other outdated thing there is.
 

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mitchell271 said:
You think that's bad? Look at this!
This is so amazingly stupid! Apart from the fact that it's so obviously not Satanic, but if they wanted to be Satanic they'd be celebrating bands like Darkthrone, Watain and Deicide. I've gotten into long arguments that I don't care to continue on this video.
And sorry for the double post but if that kind of stuff herald the end of days the world would have been over on a daily basis since the roman empire. That doesn't mean i agree with the moral questionability but ehhh.
 

Saltyk

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I heard of these guys years ago. A teacher told us about them. He even stated that he was a member, as I recall. I never got the impression that he actually believed it. I think he just liked stating that he was a member partly as no one even knows or would believe that such a group would exist in modern days.

It's really amazing how much effort they go through to explain how the Earth is flat. As I recall (not gonna bother looking it up) they came to that conclusion because the founder tried to open a delivery business using balloons. The idea being that the balloon should float back and could be gathered by someone far away. Of course, that didn't happen and the only logical explanation being that the Earth is flat.

Also, I think they think the moon is like a mile in diameter and only 20,000 feet away and the Sun isn't much larger or further.

Frankly, I find this idea hilarious.

renegade7 said:
I once found a tumblr blog (It has since been removed but archives exist) about "Intelligent privilege." The gist of "This is Intelligent Privilege" is that there is an elite class of people in the "Neurotriarchy" (I suppose a combination of "kyriarchy" and "neurological") that uses their intellect unfairly to both 1.) oppress "Neuroregressives" and 2.) use their intelligent privilege to enforce a fascist society of things like grammar and logic (apparently, being forced to follow the "intscum's grammar" is oppressive) by labeling those who refuse to follow the "intscum fascism" as being stupid. The neurotriarchy ("intscum shitlords") also tries to prevent people from using alcohol and drugs, because the death of brain cells caused by alcohol and drug overuse is the only way for a person to lose their intelligent privilege and become "Trans-neuroregressive". Apparently, there will be a "revolution" at some point in the future in which the neuroregressives and transneuroreggressives will rise up against the neurotriarchy and force them to take drugs and alcohol until they no longer have intelligent privilege either. Or kill them. Also you have to use personal pronouns on the blog and carefully mind the blog-runner's triggers which include everything from not using proper pronouns to pointing out that maybe she is being a little too hostile, of course, the multi-paragraph rants about how the "Intscum" should be properly tortured and executed (which included beheading, drawing and quartering, and flaying) did not in any way faze or "trigger" her. Men, "cishets", and "intscum" exist only to rape and oppress "womyn" (with a y, not an e, because revolution or something) and the neuroregressives.

My post on the page about how she was writing this with a computer on the internet, the culmination of years of work by scientists and engineers, and also pointing out that for all her talk about rebellion against the "neurotriarchy's grammar" he own grammar was actually remarkably good, apparently triggered her. If only I had screencapped the multiple-page rant I got in return! (Basically I'm a rapist cishet intscum and I should kill myself for "mentally raping and murdering" [???] neuroreggressives).

Well, actually I say "her" only because of a picture on the blog, but I should be saying "Them", not because "them" is neutral (the common reason by social justice warriors) but rather because she is not just one person but a "multi-persona collective being" which I suppose I should take to mean that she somehow is more than one person at once...IDK.

But basically, the internet is full of crazy people and morons, and that's never going to change. They're a minority, but in the end it's kind of a good thing, because it shows just how powerful the internet is at giving everyone a voice...even if you choose to use that voice to say that the Earth is flat.
You know I was thinking that sounds a lot like something that a coworker showed me. A huge blog about how male-female sex is rape. As in any time a man has sex with a woman, it is rape. No matter what.

Then, I looked at some of what you posted and she actually stated exactly that. Well shit... You know, I'm not even surprised by that. Seems to explain the logic in both.
 

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Well first of all, none of you have any proof that the earth is older than 6000 years old, none of us were there so we cannot prove it. I mean come on folks, this is simple historical science! And going on about how the earth is not flat? PFfft. I ask, how many of you have circumnavigated the earth? Or better yet seen it from space? I doubt anyone on this forum has done either so there is just no proof!

 

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Let me think a moment
*God exists
*God gives a damn who and how are you banging
*Homeopathy works
*Elvis is alive
*Aliens anally probe us on regular basis
*Ghosts exist
*You can curse someone by wishing them harm
*Negros are animals and not humans
*Homosexuals are pedophiles
*Global warming doesn't exist
*Global warming is caused by mankind
*Government is transmitting messages to our teeth
*Pigs are especially dirty animals
*Vaccines are used to mentally manipulate us
*Humans can stay healthy only on plant food
*Jews are running world
*People in good old pre-industrial days lived better lives
*Antibiotics can heal viral diseases
*End of the world will happen in 1914, 18, 20, 25, 41, 75, 94, 97, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2012, 2013, soon.

So Earth is flat you say?
Not the first stupid thing people believe/claim and it isn't even stupidest thing
(IMO, 1st place goes to homeopathy)
 

Something Amyss

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Matthew Jabour said:
First Ken Ham, now this-what is wrong with the world?
Since the Flat Earth society was founded when Ham was five, it's safe to say they came first. I don't count their haitus in the early 2000s--the crazy still existed.

Saltyk said:
I heard of these guys years ago. A teacher told us about them. He even stated that he was a member, as I recall. I never got the impression that he actually believed it. I think he just liked stating that he was a member partly as no one even knows or would believe that such a group would exist in modern days.
I know a couple of people who joined up basically for the sake of amusement. I don't think the entire group is like that, of course, but I have to wonder how many people are just part of it to have some fun.

Part of my thing with conspiracy theories is the whole question of "to what end?" It's not quite the same as, but similar to the question of "who profits?"

Like, I have no trouble understanding the logic behind, say, the possibility of a 9-11 conspiracy. Certain people wanted us to go to war well before 9-11. I'm not saying I think the US was behind it, just that I understand how distrust of government.

I don't know what benefit or reason there is for hiding the square or disc-shaped earth with ice walls does, or why all of our technology seems dedicated to confounding attempts to prove otherwise. It seems like if this were a real thing, it'd be the largest troll ever. And if I had the money, I would fund something like that.

"I'm bored. Wanna help me rewrite science to screw with a few thousand people tops?"

wombat_of_war said:
welcome to the internet folks. its had two effects on people. first is that alot of people are able to find others with the same beliefs and interests so they no longer feel alone and isolated and the second is that people are able to find others with the same beliefs and interests that are batshit crazy and never have to associate with others outside that group
While I agree with you for the most part, I would note that The Flat Earth Society was actually more popular pre-internet.

However, it's amazing how uninquisitive people are in this day and age. It's so easy to just find things that agree with you and never look beyond them. In the case of the FES, they used to ban people and delete comments that argued or even approached certain topics. I don't know about now. But if you go on to one of these sites you have nothing to challenge your views,

On the other hand, I think these guys are ultimately harmless. We have far more sinister groups in the real world.
 

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Serinanth said:
Well first of all, none of you have any proof that the earth is older than 6000 years old, none of us were there so we cannot prove it.
I happen to be 13,000 years old. I am offended by your assumptions!
 

DementedSheep

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I found out about them a few years back. If it makes you feel any better most the people who liked them on facebook were probably doing it for lolz. At least it looks like a fairly harmless one that isn't likely to inspire attacks against groups or the government, cause people to not use life saving medicines and vaccines or do dangerous "treatments" for things that don't exist.