The Future's Brown: Fallout 3 review

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quiet empire

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This is really my first reveiw, so sorry if it's awful.

Graphics:

The graphics in this game in my opinion is so-so,with the aformentioned brown landscape basically everywhere you go, though this being set in a post-apocolyptic wasteland it isn't unreasonable. And having never played Oblivion I can't complain of the two games likeness. The character models are quite wooden, as apposed to the impressive models of Mass Effect, with characters perhaps raising their head once in a conversation, and textures feel more in place in a PS2 game.

6/10

Story:

The story is really my main complaint with the game, or rather the ending. The story sets you up with a simple tutorial and a impressive character costom costomisation, even when I don't really see the point in messing with the lenth of my cheek. The idyllic yet cold atmosphere of Vault 101 is very immersive, even in your breakout of the Vault where one of my favorite things to do was to kill Butch, kill Butch's mum, steal both their clothes and items, use my magical telepathy, that you can use to move objects with your mind for no other reason then to dick around, and place both bodies on a bed and have a good laugh (no, i'm not disturbed, it was seriously funny). The immersion takes another slap to the face when before you leave the Vault a window pops up giving you the option to change the character when you really already spent enough time in the character costumisation. It also gives you the option to change your gender, which raises the question of who would castrate themselfs when going outside? Immersion also fades when you meet minor characters with the same face, which oddly reminded me of Star Wars: KotOR, which suffered the same problem. The ending is slightly underwelming, or rather the ENDINGS, there being, like, 5 of them, with no REAL difference between each. I must applaud the game for giving the neutral opition however, which is a welcome relief with other games with moral choice making you choose between being a evil tosser or being a goody two-shoes tosser. The main offenders being Bioshock, Star Wars: KotOR II, and other games that try to add variation by including RPG elements. Some missions were interesting, particulary 'Trouble on the Home Front', where you see for yourself the damage you did to the home you left behind in Vault 101.

5/10

Gameplay:

As an RPG has, quite a bit of the gameplay is messing around with your wardrobe to increse your stats for the better with a variety of interesting costumes that sadly seem to turn up a lot, particulary Raider and Enclave costumes. The only real difficulty curb is meeting new, repetitive enemy models, the Ferel Ghouls being bullet magnets and raiders getting annoying when they're shooting you in the arse. Super Mutants and Enclave Soldiers, while hard to bring down with a pistol or any other low-class weapon, are quickly dispatched with a few headshots. The main slightly original thing gameplay-wise that F3 brings to the table is V.A.T.S, which allows you to stop time and select which limbs to attach, which I felt myself doing at every encounter, not trusting my own manual aim. The game gives you the option of 1st or 3rd person veiw, and not being a fan of 1st person, I was usually in 3rd. Or rather, I tried to be. I quickly found out that the game was meant to be played in 1st person, which is fine, but it does piss me off they included a 3rd person for the sake of it. There would be times when I would be standing in front of a medkit in 3rd person, but I had to swich to 1st to make the game know I was trying to get it's contents and not just look in it's general direction.

7/10

Overall: 6/10
 

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OK first review, I don't really agree, except for the story a bit. To each his own, I say.

What did you play it on? PC or 360? If PC, what did you play it on? I have it on PC @ max, and while it's brown, it still looks good.
 

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[Gavo said:
]OK first review, I don't really agree, except for the story a bit. To each his own, I say.

What did you play it on? PC or 360? If PC, what did you play it on? I have it on PC @ max, and while it's brown, it still looks good.
The PS3, actually.
 

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zenoaugustus said:
No offense but it sounds like your making similar comments to Yathzee.
I can't blame you for saying that. I don't get that vibe though, and I wasn't trying to sound like him. I played this game and thought all this before I had ever heard of Yahtzee.
 

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quiet empire said:
[Gavo said:
]OK first review, I don't really agree, except for the story a bit. To each his own, I say.

What did you play it on? PC or 360? If PC, what did you play it on? I have it on PC @ max, and while it's brown, it still looks good.
The PS3, actually.
Hmm...don't know how the graphics stack up...oh well.
 

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quiet empire said:
zenoaugustus said:
No offense but it sounds like your making similar comments to Yathzee.
I can't blame you for saying that. I don't get that vibe though, and I wasn't trying to sound like him. I played this game and thought all this before I had ever heard of Yahtzee.
No I know. The ending was a complaint of many. I didn't think the graphics were that bad (but don't trust me on that, I usually don't care about graphics). Its just whenever someone makes their own review on this site, and it sounds remotely similar to Yathzee's, it's just nice to check to make sure that the person didn't make that review to sound cool.
 

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For a first review, it ain't half bad. Don't agree with everything you said, but it would be scary if I had. My main gripe with this game is that it's soooooo far removed from the older Fallout games. The thing that is missing the most had to be the in your face black comedy that I liked about the other ones so much. This one takes on a much more serious view point than the others did.
 

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Wow. That was almost like reverse fanboy rating of the game. It wasn't perfect, but sheesh, 6/10 for graphics that were really quite good? Lets be honest here. At best the style of the graphics didn't appeal to you.


Eh, I dunno, not terribly objective of a review in my eyes.
 

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Trisk said:
Wow. That was almost like reverse fanboy rating of the game. It wasn't perfect, but sheesh, 6/10 for graphics that were really quite good? Lets be honest here. At best the style of the graphics didn't appeal to you.


Eh, I dunno, not terribly objective of a review in my eyes.
In retrospect, I agree. I think I was too harsh on the graphics. |:
 

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quiet empire said:
[Gavo said:
]OK first review, I don't really agree, except for the story a bit. To each his own, I say.

What did you play it on? PC or 360? If PC, what did you play it on? I have it on PC @ max, and while it's brown, it still looks good.
The PS3, actually.
Ohh I see. Well I'm not going to be one of those people but the PS3's graphics for fallout 3 are by far inferior to both the xbox 360 AND the PC so you most definitely didnt get the best out of the game. You also dont get DLC which adds to the story making the game better.

And the 3rd person view is there to see your chacter in. Otherwise the face design and cool looking armour would be pointless. The shishkebab also looks better in 3rd person so it helos realise exactly how cool it looks
 

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Fallout 3 is one of my favorate games, with that said it annoys me when I encounter people who are blind to the faults of the games they like. The graphics are very brown and grey, and it adds to immersion to me, makes it feel bleak and desolate and generally a pretty shitty place to live.


As for the downloadable content, my first opinion of Operation Anchorage was that it was.. "Okay." But after playing through a second time my opinion of it actually went down to "It kindof sucks."


As for the Pitt? Got no opinions so far, i'll withhold judgement until March 24th.


Broken Steel is making some lofty promises that I refuse to believe until I actually see them.
 

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I agree with you - your complaints are mostly valid.

A little more detail would be nice for your next attempt.

While the dark comedy was only half there, and this one took a more serious tone, I felt like I had left a typical Fallout vault to wander the wasteland. Since that is the basis of all the fun I had in the first two, I was actually pleasantly surprised. I thought it would be monumentally worse. It wasn't.

For those who complain this should have been exactly like Fallout 1 and 2, remember that we're in the 2000's now. I expect to be more immersed in my environments and not detached by some shitty turn-based combat system from a 2-D, 16 bit isometric view.

In all honestly, they should have named it Fallout: Project Purity instead of 3. Because it has no relation story-wise (even with the Enclave and BoS, it's not a direct descendant of the first 2). It's still Fallout - just not a 3.
 

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Is it just me, or do you grade your final scores based on averages of certain aspects rather then overall enjoyment? I am not a fan of those systems. They basicly imply that a game with very bad gameplay(2) can get an average score(5) if the graphics are good(8). Gameplay always comes first, and reviews should be based on that enjoyment. A story can have the best presentation in the world, meaning story, visuals, and audio. But if the actual gameplay sucks, who wants to play it?
 

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Perhaps it lets you Screw Around with the size of your Cheeks, so you can make the Uglyist Misshapen head you can think of
 

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Gamer137 said:
A story can have the best presentation in the world, meaning story, visuals, and audio. But if the actual gameplay sucks, who wants to play it?
Well, gamers like me, really. Y'know, arty gamers who will fall in love with the game for it's characters and it's story, and not let gameplay fustration get in the way of enjoying the game. Prime examples are Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill.
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quiet empire said:
Trisk said:
Wow. That was almost like reverse fanboy rating of the game. It wasn't perfect, but sheesh, 6/10 for graphics that were really quite good? Lets be honest here. At best the style of the graphics didn't appeal to you.


Eh, I dunno, not terribly objective of a review in my eyes.
In retrospect, I agree. I think I was too harsh on the graphics. |:
Nah you were right, the graphics are horrible. It's an ugly game.
Tbh, I think it was meant to be ugly. In some respects.


I'm sorry to all you people who disagree with me, it's just what I think of the game, I deliberatly picked F3 because I knew a lot of people had already played it and would've been able to give me reasonable complaints about my work. Sorry.
 

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quiet empire said:
Well, gamers like me, really. Y'know, arty gamers who will fall in love with the game for it's characters and it's story, and not let gameplay fustration get in the way of enjoying the game. Prime examples are Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill.
I think games are an art form as well, but it is still a game at its core. If you think MGS and SH have good presentation but frustrating gameplay, would'nt they be better as movies? Not only does it remove the gameplay factor, but it also prevents bad gameplay from ruining the actual story.
 

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Gamer137 said:
quiet empire said:
Well, gamers like me, really. Y'know, arty gamers who will fall in love with the game for it's characters and it's story, and not let gameplay fustration get in the way of enjoying the game. Prime examples are Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill.
I think games are an art form as well, but it is still a game at its core. If you think MGS and SH have good presentation but frustrating gameplay, would'nt they be better as movies? Not only does it remove the gameplay factor, but it also prevents bad gameplay from ruining the actual story.
I think SH 2 was one of the better games of all time.
MGS... well...
it's too illogical for me, and I play LBP...

I do not think of a game as an art form, but rather as a game...