Actually, no. I included the "get all the bottles", which implies that you've collected all the chickens in Kakariko, among others. Same goes for the gold scale one if I remember correctly, you have to get it before going for the special fish (the lure won't appear until then I think).Jmp_man said:1. Get the Fire Arrows
2. Complete Gerudo's Training Grounds
3. Get the Gold Scale
4. Plant all the Magic Beans
5. Collect the chickens in Kakariko Village
Etc...
You can see I have included ONLY achevements that would not be achieved by normal gameplay
The fire and ice arrows, yeah, I thought of that too and now that you mention it I would include it. Discarded them at first because for some reason I thought they indeed were a must while a normal playthrough.
I don't care about the master sword achievement tbh. I already expressed at the OP that the less, the better. It's just that I'm aware of how hard is for developers to let go their beloved achivement-minefields.Jmp_man said:Let me point out a few of yours for a second...
These should be a given and not necessary to use as achevements (even if they are major turning points of the story we don't want stupid popups ruining the monent).Qvar said:- Obtain the master sword
- Beat the game
I do think that there should be one for finishing the game. It should be a given? Oh really? So you check a friends achievements list and you have absolutely no idea if he has beaten the whole game or not.
I thought we were talking about actual achievements here, not lollypops for 11 years olds in order to get them happy with the game daddy just gifted them. Oh wait, I actually was 11 years old when I got the max score at the horse achery range.Jmp_man said:These achievements would be better served as: Get a highscore in [minigame]. Mostly because the Horse Archery is way, way, WAY too hard to get a max score on, and the slingshot is way too easy. It makes the achevements less daunting an it coincides with the top tier item that you would get from the game anyway.Qvar said:- Get max punctuation at the horse archery range
- Get max punctuation at the slingshot range
- Get max punctuation at the bow range
What? You can. He gives you an extra empty bottle. Ofc I was refering to all the BIG poes. The ones that you have to shoot from horseback at the field. Not regular poes.Jmp_man said:(Also all the poes souls can't be collected in this game... how about [Soul Trader - Sell a Poe's soul] instead?)
Yup although that one would make the "get all the songs" redundant. It would be either one or the other (which one I wouldn't care).Jmp_man said:(BTW it was the Suns Song which reminds me... [Achevement: Freeze a Re-dead with the Suns Song]
TL;DR Achevements should not be tied into story elements but rather as incentive for the player to try something new that they would not have tried otherwise.
I do agree with the tl;dr.