the height of music was the 60's......

[Conner42]

fact is I *geniunly* don;t like classic rock alot of the time, and its jsut this attidude that was..."around" I guess when I was younger....people would listen to stuff like gun's n roses and metalica as if ti was the greatest music ever..and I just kind of accepted that untill I grew my own taste

and now I fucking hate gun'n'roses

my point is stuff like that while not "bad" is still just "ok" mainstream nostalga fodder...not that special in my eyes (subjective of coarse..but I hope I'm making sense)

Wait? Metallica? Guns n Roses?

OOOOOOHHHHHH.....OOOOoohhhh.....ooohhhh

That might explain a couple of things.

I have to admit, I'm really jaded when it comes to music. The only band that I honestly truly like that still has relevance today is Franz Ferdinand.

Actually, the music on my iPod can be summarized with "Franz Ferdinand, Peter Frampton, Half of the Beatles entire music career, and then some other guys.

To be honest, I was actually introduced to most of the music I like through Guitar Hero and Rock Band. And now I play guitar.

Well, I guess if I were to make suggestions, I would suggest you could listen to either the albums Rubber Soul or Revolver. Who's Next by The Who is a really great album as well. And I one of my favorites is Frampton Comes Alive, though, I'm almost willing to call it guilty pleasure, but, damn, can that guy play guitar!

I unno, that's a couple of my examples of 60s and 70s. I...ugh...really like the Beatles if you couldn't tell.

I kind of had an aneurysm when you mentioned Guns n Roses. I mean, they royally fucked up Live and Let Die. It honestly makes me want to stab people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7aGAIWe3uE

That's the only version that exists as far as I ever want to know.

Though, it's not the only reason why I don't like that band, but I have to admit that it's a big reason why though.

Also, I managed to find Rubber Soul in it's entirety on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v4rrHX5D58

But, as far as I can guess, you might already have a dislike for The Beatles, but, I guess it was worth a shot.

Here's Who's Next as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVM5OVxLfq0

Also, I'm 18 and I tend to like older music. I think what usually happens is that I'll just wait for groups to be officially deemed as "not shit" before I listen to them. I couldn't give less of a damn about the pop music of today. I mean, not even the masses who listen to it probably even care; think about how music from just 6 months ago gets pushed aside for the "hip" and "cool" thing.

 

[lacktheknack]

Who cares when POP was most diverse and interesting? There's all kinds of awesome and weird music available today that wasn't even DREAMED of back in the sixties. Electronic music was a sort of doomsday scenario to them, where artistic integrity and creativity was replaced with stone cold machine logic. As you can see, that's not what happened.

I mean, I have a library that covers The Fray to Skrillex to Bjork to Nicki Minaj to Aphex Twin to Ke$ha to Eskmo to Florence + The Machine to neoclassical stuff I've taken from my music courses. You won't find better variety in music than today.

I don't regard things like Skrillex, Nicki Minaj (whose stage name, incidentally, reminds me of the trumpeting sound of a diarrhoeal shit) or Ke$ha to be "awesome" at all. I regard them as about as musical as hooking up a speaker to a square wave generator stuck on a random setting. Actually, I'd probably have more fun with random square waves.

Well, congratulations to you!

Did you actually have anything to say about my point, or did you just want to make another tired old insult to artists you don't listen to?

 

[HardkorSB]

main point here being that music reached its "peak" in the 60's...that there is less variety and more loudness in songs

The 60's might have been a peak for rock and roll and... that's about it.
Also, less variety?
We have more genres, more instruments, more sounds, more ways to make music, more people making music, better production values than ever before.
A lot of artists don't want to change their art in order put their songs on TV and the radio because they don't have to anymore. They have the internet now.
The truth is, you most likely haven't heard over 99% of current music because there's so much of it now.

[quote/][i/]"Hence, an old tune with slightly simpler chord progressions, new instrument sonorities that were in agreement with current tendencies, and recorded with modern techniques that allowed for increased loudness levels could be easily perceived as novel, fashionable and groundbreaking."
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Again, only if you're analyzing pop songs on the radio and TV.

this pisses me off greatly..I've argued time and time againt those "people" who hang out in their little nostalga bubbles hating on whatever current trend in music is..but it turns out they are right....and it fucking depresses me.....becuase I cant stand classic rock, I fucking hate it

People who dismiss current music without even listening to it can't be right.

so I supose what I'm essentially asing is what do you think? I mean ok if I step back and think about it for a second the article isnt exactly specified [i/]what[i/] kind of music is "worse" thease days aside from pop..and we all know pop is on the shallow end of the pool...the very VERY shallow end

I heard some generic popular music from the 1950's and 1960's. Countless Little Richard/Sinatra/Beatles/Presley wannabes (depended on who was on top of the charts at the moment), playing the same 4 chords in 90% of their songs, dumb and/or uninspired lyrics (some of the songs didn't even have lyrics, just "Na na na, da da da, yeah yeah yeah" all throughout the song) goes in through one ear and goes out through another. It's really hard to find because almost nobody gave a fuck about these songs a month after they were released. That's why you only hear about the greats of that era but there was a lot of crap back then as well, there always is.

 

[Evil Smurf]

Popular music peaked... As in: Executives left more freedom in the hands of DJs who decided what music to play in the radio. Popular music was more experimental because DJs let people listen the stuff they liked. Today the executives hold a stronger grip in that regard.

Today we can't simply take only popular music. We have so many genres outside of the popular spectrum which are ignored by this graph...

I love talent from all ages, we still have it, it is just hiding behind shitty radio stations.

 

[BreakfastMan]

Not sure I understand your line of reasoning: you don't like something because someone somewhere else is elitist about that thing? As someone who loves old-school RPGs and adventure games, yet still loves many, many modern games as well... This line of thinking makes no sense. Why should you let what someone else thinks of something ruin it for you?

OT: As someone who loves rock and metal... No, the 60's was not the best. 70s-90s was best.

 

[lacktheknack]

Well, congratulations to you!

Did you actually have anything to say about my point, or did you just want to make another tired old insult to artists you don't listen to?

When I was suggesting that I would rather listen to random square waves, I wasn't being completely facetious. I've piped raw data from computer binary files through sound editors to see what the results would be, and I found the harsh, electronic screams from those files to be more entertaining than modern-day electronica or electronically-altered pop. When the results, not of stone-cold machine logic, but of the discordant, cacophonous demonstration of the machine equivalent of farting, is more entertaining than something ostensibly made for artistic reasons, there is something seriously wrong.

Probably, but not with the music.

If I found a series of armpit farts more entertaining than, say, Argo, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the movie. It means my entirely subjective opinion is rather weird.

(I haven't seen Argo, which is why I picked it.)

I can go into a long list of why TiK Tok is a fantastic pop song, why "Starships" and "Pound The Alarm" are some of the best this year, why Skrillex is great, etc... or we could take the more normal route of having you just admit that you hate pop music because you've grown up with a mental block towards it, like 98% of the rest of this forum.

(Also, in the original context, I never claimed they were amazing (although I think they are), I simply used them to show how diverse music is today. A point that you seem rather dedicated to missing because you want to hate on things.)

 

[Olas]

What are we judging decades on here? The quality of all the music released in that decade? The quality of just the best songs of that decade? The quality of the most remembered songs of that decade?

Fact is there was a LOT of shit in the 60s, even shit that was popular at the time, that gets overlooked today. Music like

Sugar, Sugar by the Archies (#1 single of 1969)
Surfin Bird by the Trashmen
Yummy Yummy Yummy by someone else nobody remembers
I Got You Babe By sonny and cher

These songs they were objectively HUGE in the 60s and they all objectively suck arse. Every decade has it's version of shitty pop music, as well as really influential and brilliant music that don't get properly appreciated until later decades. I imagine most people would be surprised if they went back in time to their favorite decade and turned on the radio.

 

[Al-Bundy-da-G]

The article just stated that common chord progressions have been used over and over, and have just been updated and made louder. Which is for the most part true, as aanyone who picks up a guitar and knows a few simple chords can probably play about 1000 pop songs.

Also, in another Cracked article, they state that the nostalgia goggles in music are moot because bad music has always been at the top of the charts, it's just that the good music is usually remembered more.

Does the fact that a good majority of people remember "I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts" go against this theory?

 

[Dr Jones]

As a person with the avatar that I have I can only wholeheartedly agree!

 

[Rawberry101]

'I'm 12 and I love The Beatles! I can't believe the crap my generation listens to.'

Anyone else seen those posts on Youtube?

It's all relative. Personally, I love 60's music, but a single decade is way too thin of a realm. Most early 60's rock music is terrible when compared to what's come after.

 

[Vault101]

'I'm 12 and I love The Beatles! I can't believe the crap my generation listens to.'

Anyone else seen those posts on Youtube?
.

right before everyone was blaming beiber for EVERYTHING

and aside from that the 50th post in a flamewar that somhow became about bronies....

but yeah...youtube comments are the epitome of musical ignorance....acording to them good music died at *date of song in the video*

 

[outie]

I think that every decade has its own superstars and musical geniuses. But the 60s are so important because they really changed music as a whole and have effects on what came after. It was not only music they influenced, but also fashion and literature. New makeup styles made it into the world. And I am glad to have such thing as blemish balm [http://www.schrammek.com/products/regulating-care/blemish-balm.html] nowadays as well! Some of the musicians back than are even poets in my ears, Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Paul Simon.

 

[Nazulu]

I'm not gonna lie, I don't agree with any one when they say it's all just opinion, but can't you just ignore these people and enjoy what you like any way? You should be happy if you like music these days, because your time is now, and you can rub it in my face that the past decades are done with.

Cracked is full of it any way, 70's were the most interesting and powerful by far. I still can't believe fusion jazz and progressive rock were really popular back then. Actually, to be more accurate, the late 60's and early 70's.

 

[JochemHippie]

I'm going to say that the 70's were definitely a peak. (That's just me though, I have a soft spot for progressive rock.)

However, it was restricted to a couple of bands, these days anyone can go into a studio and record with good equipment, actually having a sound back then was expensive as hell.

Whoever says music these days sucks really needs to start paying attention to music and not media

 

[Keoul]

I don't think so.
Sure there were a lot of great songs back in the 60s but that doesn't mean music these days suck, it's just shifted, changed. And that's a good thing.

Spoiler

Pretty sure atleast ONE of these songs would appeal to everyone. The good music is still out there, it's just that the repetitive ones are what's popular these days.

 

[Dangit2019]

The article just stated that common chord progressions have been used over and over, and have just been updated and made louder. Which is for the most part true, as aanyone who picks up a guitar and knows a few simple chords can probably play about 1000 pop songs.

Also, in another Cracked article, they state that the nostalgia goggles in music are moot because bad music has always been at the top of the charts, it's just that the good music is usually remembered more.

Does the fact that a good majority of people remember "I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts" go against this theory?

How dare you blaspheme such a classic. For shame, sir.