The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey

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Scytail

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They finally released the teaser trailer for The Hobbit (imdb site here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903624/#lb-vi1699192345)

Thoughts? Opinions? Personally the dwarfs singing brought a tear to my eye and Peter Jackson can have my money now.
 

Combustion Kevin

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I found the trilogy sorely lacking in dwarves, good to see this has been rectified.(even if it was lore consistant)

definately looking forward to this.
 

Bradeck

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Frodo? Saruman? Legolas? Galadriel? Why? Hey, if we're going to detract from the main story line so we can cram in characters from the last three, why not include SAURON. Oh, he's in the movie to. Not a passing reference like in the book, nope, he gets screen time. And lets add even more characters, as if 17 central characters aren't even. You know what everyone likes? Elves! MOAR ELVES PLEASE, Taladrial. And while we're at it, Here's everyones favorite sword, NARSIL.

I'm sorry, but I really wish that Peter Jackson would stop channeling George Lucas, and adding stupid crap that wasn't in the actual story to begin with, just to get more viewers. And one final thing. The entire trailer did not mention ONCE, the ENTIRE REASON FOR THE BOOK. Why are they suddenly 14 dwarves in this Hobbit's house? Why are they fighting trolls? Are they going on some sort of adventure? WHY???

We could have EASILY shown the plot synopsis in 30 seconds. And again, WHY IS GALADRIEL IN THIS???

I have a really bad feeling the whole "Ancient Dragon takes over Dwarf Mountain" is going to take a back seat to "Bilbo finds ring/Dwarves get in really awesome battles with Elves and Orcs". Peter Jackson is a fucking tool, and I'm sick of him destroying the lore.

/end rant
 

ZeroMachine

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Bradeck said:
Frodo? Saruman? Legolas? Galadriel? Why? Hey, if we're going to detract from the main story line so we can cram in characters from the last three, why not include SAURON. Oh, he's in the movie to. Not a passing reference like in the book, nope, he gets screen time. And lets add even more characters, as if 17 central characters aren't even. You know what everyone likes? Elves! MOAR ELVES PLEASE, Taladrial. And while we're at it, Here's everyones favorite sword, NARSIL.

I'm sorry, but I really wish that Peter Jackson would stop channeling George Lucas, and adding stupid crap that wasn't in the actual story to begin with, just to get more viewers. And one final thing. The entire trailer did not mention ONCE, the ENTIRE REASON FOR THE BOOK. Why are they suddenly 14 dwarves in this Hobbit's house? Why are they fighting trolls? Are they going on some sort of adventure? WHY???

We could have EASILY shown the plot synopsis in 30 seconds. And again, WHY IS GALADRIEL IN THIS???

I have a really bad feeling the whole "Ancient Dragon takes over Dwarf Mountain" is going to take a back seat to "Bilbo finds ring/Dwarves get in really awesome battles with Elves and Orcs". Peter Jackson is a fucking tool, and I'm sick of him destroying the lore.

/end rant
u mad, bro?

Listen, first off, as he did with the Lord of the Rings movies, he's changing a couple things here and there to make it better on film and for people who know nothing about Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit. He's added some characters from Lord of the Rings in order to draw more connections between these movies and that one. It's supposed to be a prequel duo. People should be able to get that from more than just "two of the same characters are on an adventure".

As for why it doesn't explain the story, you strike me as the sort of person that'd ***** about the fact that a trailer reveals everything in a movie so "there's no point in seeing it". If you're not, I apologize, but... do you see my point? Not to mention it's a two parter. Two movies, not one.

You need to chill out and stop acting like this was some personal attack. This is a different version of the lore. Considering how much detail the books had, it's damn near impossible to make a movie without changes. Not to mention there would be so much exposition that it would bore the vast majority of people to death.

EDIT: Right, more to the point, cannot fucking wait for this movie.
 

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Bradeck said:
Frodo? Saruman? Legolas? Galadriel? Why? Hey, if we're going to detract from the main story line so we can cram in characters from the last three, why not include SAURON. Oh, he's in the movie to. Not a passing reference like in the book, nope, he gets screen time. And lets add even more characters, as if 17 central characters aren't even. You know what everyone likes? Elves! MOAR ELVES PLEASE, Taladrial. And while we're at it, Here's everyones favorite sword, NARSIL.

I'm sorry, but I really wish that Peter Jackson would stop channeling George Lucas, and adding stupid crap that wasn't in the actual story to begin with, just to get more viewers. And one final thing. The entire trailer did not mention ONCE, the ENTIRE REASON FOR THE BOOK. Why are they suddenly 14 dwarves in this Hobbit's house? Why are they fighting trolls? Are they going on some sort of adventure? WHY???

We could have EASILY shown the plot synopsis in 30 seconds. And again, WHY IS GALADRIEL IN THIS???

I have a really bad feeling the whole "Ancient Dragon takes over Dwarf Mountain" is going to take a back seat to "Bilbo finds ring/Dwarves get in really awesome battles with Elves and Orcs". Peter Jackson is a fucking tool, and I'm sick of him destroying the lore.

/end rant
Like ZeroMachine said, Jackson is making it more accessible to people who never read The Hobbit or the Lord of the Rings, by having these characters have a little screen time it's a good way to tie in both sets of films.

And about the trailer not talking about the story? Well it's only a teaser trailer dude, this is just to pique interest from non diehard fans. I'm sure there will be more trailers explaining more as the release date gets nearer
 

ZeroMachine

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Sleekit said:
Galadriel is in it because the Necromancer of Dol Guldur (Sauron) and White Council (Saruman, Radagast, The Elf Lords etc) storyline is shown in the coming two films

that storyline is featured because it happens at the same time and bridges with the existing LOTR films.

Legolas gets a cameo because he's the son of the Elvenking of Mirkwood and is actually in the book (although Tolkien did not name the Elvenkings sons til LOTR)

Narsil is shown in its shards, on its plinth because they are in Elronds house in Rivendale and its a continuity nod to the audience.

Frodo and Ian Holms Blibo are shown as a framing device for the entire film(s).

but you know all this and don't dare attack me for giving you the simple answers you already know. im not Steve Jackson and i don't need to answer for his film making decisions.

that said i have no issue with virtually any of the above but then im not not trying to improve my geek cred by nit picking over Tolkien. i'd rather just watch two cracking films.
You,uh... mean Peter Jackson... right? (Either way, you put it better than I did. Kudos.)
 

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That trailer pissed me off. I can't stand it! D:<



NEXT December?! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...!
 

Bradeck

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Yeah, I guess I did rage a little hard there. I just love the Hobbit, and Tolkien, and hate to see it turned from an accredited work into a pop-corn/cgi Clash of the Titans knockoff.
 

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It's one of two possible choices for context: either make the movie a self-contained story, or make it an extension to the existing movies.

As set up, the two hobbit movies are somewhere between an expansion pack and a prequel - tied to the trilogy so strongly that there is no chance of viewing them on their own merits. Especially as prequels, which in book form is a nice introduction to the series, but which here will make less sense and be less impactful when not familiar with the trilogy. (yay - done mangling English for a while!)
 

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I love the dwarf song, its so haunting and brooding, I cant wait for the movie and the OST.
 

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Bradeck said:
pop-corn/cgi Clash of the Titans knockoff.
After watching the special editions of the making of and the actor, producer and director commentary of the films, I can put my trust in the team that is working on this. PJ hasnt devolved into a selfcentered ego manic like George has.
 

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I found the trailer to be lackluster, but I also didn't expect much since it was regarded as more of a teaser than anything. Once we get closer to the release date, the "bigger and better" trailers will start pouring out, so hopefully I'll be a bit more excited.
 

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Revolutionaryloser said:
Well, I'm torn. I was sure this was going to be shit but at least they have a brilliant cast. The main problem is that Lord of the Rings was a very simple and formulaic story which meant it translated easily into a feature film. The Hobbit is a clusterfuck of events happening all over the place with flow changing rapidly and no structure. No big bad. No struggle for freedom and justice. No lurking evil. If anything, the most bastard character in the story is Bilbo.

I have a strong suspicions that Peter J. is going to overhaul the whole story and come out with something totally different.

And the language. All the riddles and rhymes and silly semantics buggery. If he's gonna get rid of that we might as well not call it the Hobbit.

If it's true to the book the film will probably be awful. If it changes everything so it can actually make any sense as a 21st century Hollywood blockbuster it will probably be awful too. It has the whole spectrum of awfulness to play with here.
you think the LOTR is awful?

Can you give us some insight into what you find to be good please?
 

ZeroMachine

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boag said:
Revolutionaryloser said:
Well, I'm torn. I was sure this was going to be shit but at least they have a brilliant cast. The main problem is that Lord of the Rings was a very simple and formulaic story which meant it translated easily into a feature film. The Hobbit is a clusterfuck of events happening all over the place with flow changing rapidly and no structure. No big bad. No struggle for freedom and justice. No lurking evil. If anything, the most bastard character in the story is Bilbo.

I have a strong suspicions that Peter J. is going to overhaul the whole story and come out with something totally different.

And the language. All the riddles and rhymes and silly semantics buggery. If he's gonna get rid of that we might as well not call it the Hobbit.

If it's true to the book the film will probably be awful. If it changes everything so it can actually make any sense as a 21st century Hollywood blockbuster it will probably be awful too. It has the whole spectrum of awfulness to play with here.
you think the LOTR is awful?

Can you give us some insight into what you find to be good please?
He didn't even imply that... Where are you seeing "LOTR movies are awful"?