The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey

[jakeblues69]

I can't wait for this.

I'm glad that there will be a little more detail to the Sauron storyline when Gandalf leaves the party to take of other business in Mirkwood. Can't wait to see some of the stuff Tolkein doesn't really get into in the book addressed.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

The Hobbit is a children's book. I'm excited for this movie, mainly because I loved the LOTR trilogy, but having read the Hobbit I'm not so sure Jackson can pull this movie off without removing a large part of what made the Hobbit great.

 

[Vandenberg1]

I nerdgasmed 3 times in that teaser....xo I wanna see a Smaug design..voiced by Sean Connery

 

[Dwarfman]

Frodo? Saruman? Legolas? Galadriel? Why? Hey, if we're going to detract from the main story line so we can cram in characters from the last three, why not include SAURON. Oh, he's in the movie to. Not a passing reference like in the book, nope, he gets screen time. And lets add even more characters, as if 17 central characters aren't even. You know what everyone likes? Elves! MOAR ELVES PLEASE, Taladrial. And while we're at it, Here's everyones favorite sword, NARSIL.

...Snip... And again, WHY IS GALADRIEL IN THIS???

I have a really bad feeling the whole "Ancient Dragon takes over Dwarf Mountain" is going to take a back seat to "Bilbo finds ring/Dwarves get in really awesome battles with Elves and Orcs". Peter Jackson is a fucking tool, and I'm sick of him destroying the lore.

/end rant

He isn't destroying lore. If you bothered to read Unfinished Tales you would learn the real reason why Gandalf convinced Thorin to venture to the Lonely mountain in the first place. If you bothered reading the appendices in LOTR you would realise that the time between Gandalf learning the secret of Dol Guldur, finding Thrain and giving the keys and map of Erebor to Thorin are nearly 91 years apart.

Sauron is the Necromancer that was covered in Fellowship of the Ring.( AppendixB Page.1063)

Legolas is the son of Thranduil (Lord of Mirkwood) so naturally he would be in the movie. If not for the battle of Five armies then at least for comic value as the elf who gets so drunk he allows Bilbo and the dwarves to flee Thranduil's palace. Also Elves will get a fair bit of time given that the party pass through Rivendell and seek advice from Elrond and are also waylaid by the elves of Mirkwood - both parties along with the elves of Lothlorien play a big part in putting down the necromancer - who also take part in the battle of the five armies - OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ELVES ELVES EVERYWHERE. Meh Personally I'm looking forward to a few hundred pissed off Dwarves all armed with pickaxes (mattocks)

The movie will no doubt have mention of the casting down of the necromancer and Dol Guldur so naturally Saruman Galadriel and Radoagast - whome I noticed you haven't mentioned - will have central rolls to play as they are members of the white council. Personally I look forward to seeing Galadriel personally '...casting down the walls of the cursed tower and laying open it's pits...'

In short your argument would have weight if Jackson did the Hobbit first. However he didn't. Now we must work out how 'There and Back Again' equates within the War of the Ring.

 

[Zaknaberrnon]

trailer looks awesome, hobbit is my favorite book so I can't wait to watch this!
only thing I didn't like was Thorin. srsly he just looks like some young human guy with a beard.

 

[RJ Dalton]

I would have preferred Del Toro at the directors helm than Peter Jackson. Jackson can do great epic action scenes, but there weren't a lot of those in The Hobbit. The Hobbit was more about the atmosphere and the characters and Del Toro is much better at that.
Still, this is probably a movie I will see. I just hope they don't mess it up, because this was my favorite of the four books.

 

[Dwarfman]

trailer looks awesome, hobbit is my favorite book so I can't wait to watch this!
only thing I didn't like was Thorin. srsly he just looks like some young human guy with a beard.

Felt the same way. I was kinda hoping they'd hired the dude who played Leonides from 300 to play Thorin II. I could dig that whole 'THIS IS SPARTA!!!!' being translated into pissed off Naugrim.

 

[Kahunaburger]

And this is why Guillermo Del Toro should have made these movies. Peter Jackson needs to learn a little restraint. I mean, wow, dude. There's a reason why Galadriel/Narsil/etc. weren't in the book, and I'm shocked he doesn't get that. OTOH, this was the guy who thought that LotR needed skateboarding elves, so I probably shouldn't be that shocked.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Frodo? Saruman? Legolas? Galadriel? Why? Hey, if we're going to detract from the main story line so we can cram in characters from the last three, why not include SAURON. Oh, he's in the movie to. Not a passing reference like in the book, nope, he gets screen time. And lets add even more characters, as if 17 central characters aren't even. You know what everyone likes? Elves! MOAR ELVES PLEASE, Taladrial. And while we're at it, Here's everyones favorite sword, NARSIL.

I'm sorry, but I really wish that Peter Jackson would stop channeling George Lucas, and adding stupid crap that wasn't in the actual story to begin with, just to get more viewers. And one final thing. The entire trailer did not mention ONCE, the ENTIRE REASON FOR THE BOOK. Why are they suddenly 14 dwarves in this Hobbit's house? Why are they fighting trolls? Are they going on some sort of adventure? WHY???

We could have EASILY shown the plot synopsis in 30 seconds. And again, WHY IS GALADRIEL IN THIS???

I have a really bad feeling the whole "Ancient Dragon takes over Dwarf Mountain" is going to take a back seat to "Bilbo finds ring/Dwarves get in really awesome battles with Elves and Orcs". Peter Jackson is a fucking tool, and I'm sick of him destroying the lore.

/end rant

I do sorta agree with this, however, the added stuff seems to be canon as well.

"The Hobbit and various other stuff that was going on at the same time", or "There and back again while other people were concerned with important, but not directly related matter" might have been a bit too long.

On the other hand...you take the Hobbit, stick lots of other stuff in it and spread it over two movies? Why not make "The Hobbit" and then make "Lots of other stuff" as two seperate, but related films?

 

[Sixcess]

Any lingering doubts I had about these movies vanished the moment they started singing. Just amazing.

Oh sure, it'll no doubt have its share of awkward Peter Jackson moments, just like the trilogy, but all in all it looks great.

it does strike me that, without Tolkein's lighter and softer 'narration', the story could actually be a lot darker than the Lord of the Rings.

Spoiler: do I need to Spoiler this book? Oh may as well...

as the leader of the dwarves, Thorin will be the third major character, next to Bilbo and (when he's around) Gandalf, and Thorin isn't very heroic at all. His main motivations are revenge, pride and greed, not very heroic qualities. Mind you, that does give him the potential for a great character arc, especially since he'll get a death scene.

Smaug is an utter bastard with no redeeming qualities who pretty much writes the book on disproportionate retribution. One utterly insignificant piece of treasure gets stolen and his first instinct is to raze an entire town to the ground. I also can't wait to see how they handle his Hannibal Lecter-esque conversations with Bilbo.

And finally, the story is set at a time when the distrust between men, dwarves and elves is at its height, to the point where they're going to war with each other. I'm really hoping that the Legolas we see here will reflect that.

So yeah, looking forward to this a lot. easily my most anticipated film of 2012.

 

[BigD00dManGuy]

Jackson has also made it clear that he is including the appendices at the end of LotR in order to better frame the story and consolidate all the extra information there with the Hobbit story. As far as that goes, I trust him, although I am still a bit stung by his baffling choice to completely change the character of Faramir in LotR by making him choose the lure of earning his father's love instead of being completely unaffected by the Ring's call, like he did in the novel. Tweaks I can live with. Changing the foundational characteristics of a character is much harder to swallow.

 

[vrbtny]

EDIT: Right, more to the point, cannot fucking wait for this movie.

Summed up my feelings for the movie perfectly.

THIS IS GONNA BE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Macgyvercas]

Peter Jackson...I have six words for you, and six only:

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

 

[esperandote]

Can't wait for the Silmarillion

 

[RoBi3.0]

Frodo? Saruman? Legolas? Galadriel? Why? Hey, if we're going to detract from the main story line so we can cram in characters from the last three, why not include SAURON. Oh, he's in the movie to. Not a passing reference like in the book, nope, he gets screen time. And lets add even more characters, as if 17 central characters aren't even. You know what everyone likes? Elves! MOAR ELVES PLEASE, Taladrial. And while we're at it, Here's everyones favorite sword, NARSIL.

I'm sorry, but I really wish that Peter Jackson would stop channeling George Lucas, and adding stupid crap that wasn't in the actual story to begin with, just to get more viewers. And one final thing. The entire trailer did not mention ONCE, the ENTIRE REASON FOR THE BOOK. Why are they suddenly 14 dwarves in this Hobbit's house? Why are they fighting trolls? Are they going on some sort of adventure? WHY???

We could have EASILY shown the plot synopsis in 30 seconds. And again, WHY IS GALADRIEL IN THIS???

I have a really bad feeling the whole "Ancient Dragon takes over Dwarf Mountain" is going to take a back seat to "Bilbo finds ring/Dwarves get in really awesome battles with Elves and Orcs". Peter Jackson is a fucking tool, and I'm sick of him destroying the lore.

/end rant

This is basically fear as well.I am a huge Tolkien fan and I about pissed myself in confusion when the news broke that there will not one but TWO hobbit movies. I struggle to come up with contextually relevant story points based on actual things that happened during the time frame that the hobbit took place. Defiantly not enough to fill two full length motion pictures.

 

[Berithil]

I personaly am excited for white council/dol guldur bit. Although if that area where gandalf was fighting in the trailer was dol guldur, then I'm a bit unimpressed. Dol guldur should be a huge fortress with a tower. This looked like a set of ruins. After all, this is the secondary fortress of sauron.

Anyway, as I was watching the trailer, by the time the dwarves started singing, I realized that I had a huge dorky grin on my face. This is a trailer worth getting excited about, not breaking dawn. *humafuf*

 

[ZeroMachine]

You need to chill out and stop acting like this was some personal attack. This is a different version of the lore. Considering how much detail the books had, it's damn near impossible to make a movie without changes. Not to mention there would be so much exposition that it would bore the vast majority of people to death.

EDIT: Right, more to the point, cannot fucking wait for this movie.

Wait wait wait, "how much detail the books had"? The hobbit was like 200 pages at best. It was a tiny little novel that really didnt go into all that much detail and he is making it into a two part movie. The only reason its dam near impossible to make a movie without changes is because there isnt enough material in the dam book to make it that long.

In the end it doesnt bother me because at best I feel this movie will be complete shit. Just like all of the other movies Jackson has fucked over. I imagine just like with lord of the rings he will get a few pity rewards for the second film but thats it.

I was more specifically talking about the Lord of the Rings with that comment. It sounded like the guy I quoted was complaining about the Lord of the Rings as well. That was to accent the fact that he'll also be changing some things around in the Hobbit in order to fit into his version of the Lord of the Rings universe.

And you must realize you're in the minority when saying that he "fucked over all his movies". Every LOTR was a hit. I thought they were brilliant, and so did most other people. (Though I'll admit I didn't enjoy his version of King Kong even a little.)