The Jiggly Problem

[Micalas]

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I was almost on your side until you posted the video near the end. Now I don't know if you're admitting to being obsessed or just trying to make an additional statement.

She was probably bent out of shape because that picture depicts an unrealistically proportioned woman. This was probably amplified being that the woman isn't real but an Animated Character.

So the thought process may be: Artificially created female + Probably drawn or Designed by a man = Male Fantasy, Unrealistic Woman.

At the very least, the women in that magazine are real, regardless of if they may have had their breasts done. Or maybe it was just as bad and she didn't happen to notice.

Whatever the case, her argument is valid.

I'm betting the women in their magazine were quite artificial as well.

It's true what you say about women having doube standards, I went to a theme park with three of my female friends, one of whom was wearing a very short skirt, but for some reason I got their annoyance for wearing a mildly clevage-revealing top. Maybe it's just jealousy (I am somewhat better endowed than most of my friends)

As for the woman's double standards? I imagine it's to do with the fact that the girl in the picture you were looking at is a) unrealistically proportioned. Even as an anime fan myself I have to ask how any man will ever look at me twice if that's the kind of girl he idealises - whereas I at least have a chance of looking like a model in a magazine some day so that doesn't irk me half as much. And b) it's pretty much socially acceptable to look at 'lads mags' whereas it's not quite so acceptable to look up anime girls just for their breasts...

I don't think even these biggest Japanese love pillow raping weirdo thinks that they will ever find someone proportioned like an anime character. Also, he said that the picture was just what was on the wiki page. Not that he actively sought the picture to silently rub himself through his pocket.

 

[Necroid_Neko]

I don't think even these biggest Japanese love pillow raping weirdo thinks that they will ever find someone proportioned like an anime character. Also, he said that the picture was just what was on the wiki page. Not that he actively sought the picture to silently rub himself through his pocket.

As the now ex-girlfriend of a severe anime fan I can safely tell you that yes, some men do indeed expect to find women who look like that.

Also I'm aware that's not why he was looking it up, but the woman in his story didn't know that hence why I phrased it such. *edits her post* There we go, hopefully it won't get misinterpreted now

 

[Ledan]

Just wanted to throw this out there:
A study looked at where men look on girls during porn, and found that most of the time they were looking at their face.

 

[GigaHz]

I'm betting the women in their magazine were quite artificial as well.

I did mention the potential of them having surgery.

There is also the stronger likelihood of it being doctored by a graphic designer. It is still just as likely that these women are natural. You don't really know unless you see the picture.

That isn't the point though. You can only push an image of a real woman so far before people go "This is obviously fake". A drawing on the other hand isn't based on reality. It is conceived and designed.

Someone viewing a drawing of a big chested woman stands out because it was designed to be perverted. However, a woman that just so happens to have a big chest is not necessarily perverted unless she poses provocatively or had surgery done. Stating it once more, it could have been a perfectly normal woman in a bikini. It's an empty speculation.

Regardless, one is designed the other 'is". One is more obviously controlled than the other.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Or women with hips.

Women with hips are my fetish. I love a woman with a standard skeleton structure.

OT: I don't really care for tits that much, they're just kind of filler. I'm more of a leg man myself.

I can hazard a guess as to why women get bent out of shape about it, though. It probably has something to do with the apparent obsession with them, they get a lot more attention than the rest of the body from a lot of people.

Consider them the MLP of anatomy. Yeah, there are a lot of shows that people obsess over just as much, but MLP gets more attention than most and is now hated by a lot of people for it. How I Met Your Mother would be the legs of course.

Instinctively, most men are very attracted to large breasts.

The obsession for boobs is actually relatively new [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_fetishism], rather than being something born out of instinct. Boobs are only shaped the way they are because we have stupidly shaped mouths. Check out apes, most have round mouths and only nipple.

 

[Micalas]

I don't think even these biggest Japanese love pillow raping weirdo thinks that they will ever find someone proportioned like an anime character. Also, he said that the picture was just what was on the wiki page. Not that he actively sought the picture to silently rub himself through his pocket.

As the now ex-girlfriend of a severe anime fan I can safely tell you that yes, some men do indeed expect to find women who look like that.

Also I'm aware that's not why he was looking it up, but the woman in his story didn't know that hence why I phrased it such. *edits her post* There we go, hopefully it won't get misinterpreted now

Oh he's one of those people that we anime fans don't talk about. The kind that doesn't just have love pillow sex, but love pillow orgies with multiples different pillows. I'm going to have to ask that you pretend that it never happened, pretend you never knew him, and just let my team take care of this. You saw nothing.

Also, apologies for the misinterpretation

I'm betting the women in their magazine were quite artificial as well.

I did mention the potential of them having surgery.

There is also the stronger likelihood of it being doctored by a graphic designer. It is still just as likely that these women are natural. You don't really know unless you see the picture.

That isn't the point though. You can only push an image of a real woman so far before people go "This is obviously fake". A drawing on the other hand isn't based on reality. It is conceived and designed.

Someone viewing a drawing of a big chested woman stands out because it was designed to be perverted. However, a woman that just so happens to have a big chest is not necessarily perverted unless she poses provocatively or had surgery done. Stating it once more, it could have been a perfectly normal woman in a bikini. It's an empty speculation.

Regardless, one is designed the other 'is". One is more obviously controlled than the other.

I see what you're saying but I take issue with the idea that the fact that a character drawn with large breasts is perverse by default. To suggest that is to suggest that large breasts are inherently perverse. Are the majority of large-breasted characters given large breasts for mostly sexual reason? You bet. But it's not impossible for a character to just have a large bust. Please note I'm refering to "normal" large not cartoonishly large.

 

[Lieju]

I don't think breasts are more 'off-limits' than most other parts of the female body, but they are more noticeable than the vagina, and even if a woman is wearing a moderate amount of clothing, you can at least get an idea of how big they are, and compare different women based on their 'assets'.Comparing vaginas, though, requires more research.

Also both men and women have asses, so it's not as much of a 'female' thing.

But I guess some women feel like they are being constantly sized up and judged based on the size of their cleavage, and while the society is similarly obsessed with the size of men's genitals, you'd have to wear a rather revealing clothing for the size difference to show.

I like breasts myself, but I like them reasonably-sized, and think the idea of 'bigger-the-better' is silly.

As for the OP, I think the woman was being rude, it's not like you were bothering her. If you were minding your own business, why should she care?

 

[DoPo]

It's entirely possible the OP missed an opportunity to start a discussion with a pretty girl because he was so self conscious. So, instead she moved on to men with more confidence.

And I think it's entirely possible you are correct. That is what I thought initially as well.

 

[GigaHz]

I see what you're saying but I take issue with the idea that the fact that a character drawn with large breasts is perverse by default. To suggest that is to suggest that large breasts are inherently perverse. Are the majority of large-breasted characters given large breasts for mostly sexual reason? You bet. But it's not impossible for a character to just have a large bust. Please note I'm refering to "normal" large not cartoonishly large.

That argument would only fly if the woman looked proportionate.

The example given by the OP does not. There is no way, short of implants, that a woman who looked like that could get breasts that are that big. To pretend for a second that this wasn't done for sex appeal is a bit of a stretch.

I'm sure that there are animated characters who have a large bust within reason, but the stereotype is over-the-top unrealistic.

 

[Micalas]

I see what you're saying but I take issue with the idea that the fact that a character drawn with large breasts is perverse by default. To suggest that is to suggest that large breasts are inherently perverse. Are the majority of large-breasted characters given large breasts for mostly sexual reason? You bet. But it's not impossible for a character to just have a large bust. Please note I'm refering to "normal" large not cartoonishly large.

That argument would only fly if the woman looked proportionate.

The example given by the OP does not. There is no way, short of implants, that a woman who looked like that could get breasts that are that big. To pretend for a second that this wasn't done for sex appeal is a bit of a stretch.

I'm sure that there are animated characters who have a large bust within reason, but the stereotype is over-the-top unrealistic.

I wasn't commenting specifically on the picture in the OP but looking at it again, I'm sure Kim Kardashian could pull off the character in a live action adaptation. That said, the character was most definitely drawn that way for sex appeal. It's obvious by the way the clothes are drawn. My argument for that character specifically would probably be a little stronger if she buttoned up though.

 

[Mr Cwtchy]

Yup, first rule to men. When a woman starts a conversation, CONTINUE IT.

"lol, yeah, the cartoon women really are overdone, I wish they would draw them more realistically". Then actually talk to the girl...

Why would you want to converse with a girl who feels the need to lecture people she doesn't even know?

 

[Micalas]

Yup, first rule to men. When a woman starts a conversation, CONTINUE IT.

"lol, yeah, the cartoon women really are overdone, I wish they would draw them more realistically". Then actually talk to the girl...

Why would you want to converse with a girl who feels the need to lecture people she doesn't even know?

Eh? It's a discussion forum. We're discussing. I don't see the problem. I think things have been going rather smoothly.

 

[Mr Cwtchy]

Yup, first rule to men. When a woman starts a conversation, CONTINUE IT.

"lol, yeah, the cartoon women really are overdone, I wish they would draw them more realistically". Then actually talk to the girl...

Why would you want to converse with a girl who feels the need to lecture people she doesn't even know?

Eh? It's a discussion forum. We're discussing. I don't see the problem. I think things have been going rather smoothly.

Er, I meant the girl in the OPs story.

Also...
CAPCHA: Edmund's osreger

 

[soren7550]

I thought this would be a conversation about Lady Aribeth. My mistake.

And I thought it was going to be about Jigglypuff. -_-'

Spoiler

(please tell me if the boob picture goes against the rules. I'd think not since they're covered, but I could be wrong.)

 

[Micalas]

Even if the girl said, word for word, when the OP claims, the tone or thinking behind it is biased by his own insecurities. He didn't say ANYTHING in return, that, combined with his obvious dislike of the "jocks" suggests that he just assumes it was negative.

It's actually a perfect opening for a conversation if the guy has the brains to respond to it. She could easily have meant it in a teasing way. Or she could have just been having a bad day and a friendly response would have opened the door to more in the future.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were commenting on the futility of internet arguments. That makes much more sense.

 

[artanis_neravar]

I see what you're saying but I take issue with the idea that the fact that a character drawn with large breasts is perverse by default. To suggest that is to suggest that large breasts are inherently perverse. Are the majority of large-breasted characters given large breasts for mostly sexual reason? You bet. But it's not impossible for a character to just have a large bust. Please note I'm refering to "normal" large not cartoonishly large.

That argument would only fly if the woman looked proportionate.

The example given by the OP does not. There is no way, short of implants, that a woman who looked like that could get breasts that are that big. To pretend for a second that this wasn't done for sex appeal is a bit of a stretch.

I'm sure that there are animated characters who have a large bust within reason, but the stereotype is over-the-top unrealistic.

Yup, first rule to men. When a woman starts a conversation, CONTINUE IT.

"lol, yeah, the cartoon women really are overdone, I wish they would draw them more realistically". Then actually talk to the girl...

As long as he doesn't actually use the word "lol"

First rule to women, if you don't know me, and try to lecture me be prepared to get told to fuck off

EDIT: Not sure why I quoted you twice there

 

[Pebblig]

Women's boobs, specifically.

How many other genders do you know that have boobs?

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Oh there are some men with boobs. Man boobs if you will...

Otherwise as I like to call them "Moobs".